Don't forget to cover her in clingfilm before you lick her pussy!

I think deciteing to have saf sex or not is like riding a motorbike or not:
You can do it and take the risk, or you can not do it and don't take the risk!
I think motorbikes are tools to suicide but what about climbing, swimming and skiing. All of them can be danerous and even with deadly results, but where does one draw the line between Fun and Danger? If you want to be really safe in life, there is almost nothing you can do that has not the slightest bit of danger in it. Driving a car and riding a bike can be deadly, too but do we choose to stop it to be more safe?
If we want to be really safe, our live would not be worth living. There is a line where fun ends and danger begins but where this line is everyone has to choose for himself.
 
FinePhilly said:
Exactly.

If you have a good enough rapport with your partner, you should be able to talk honestly about your sexual history and then asses the risk from there.

But seriously....oral sex given to me with a latex barrier really does not sound appealing at all, nor does giving oral to a partner with a condom.

Yuk.

Unless your partner is a virgin, there's always a risk.
 
smartandsexy said:
Unless your partner is a virgin, there's always a risk.


Yes I know, but I'm inclined to believe that truly "safe" oral sex is less fun and more effort than just using my toys!

;)

Life is a series of calculated risks.
 
smartandsexy said:
Unless your partner is a virgin, there's always a risk.
There are MANY ways to get infectid with almost everything even without having sex.
Being virgin doesn't chane anything... ;)
 
FinePhilly said:
Yes I know, but I'm inclined to believe that truly "safe" oral sex is less fun and more effort than just using my toys!

;)

Life is a series of calculated risks.

I appreciate that - the thought of oral sex with protection doesn't fill me with inspiration. But I don't understand why you wouldn't just get tested and get the all clear?
 
smartandsexy said:
I appreciate that - the thought of oral sex with protection doesn't fill me with inspiration. But I don't understand why you wouldn't just get tested and get the all clear?


Well, there's that idea too!

Probably the best idea all things considered.
 
Little Bird said:
There are MANY ways to get infectid with almost everything even without having sex.
Being virgin doesn't chane anything... ;)

Most STIs are just that - sexually transmitted infections. I would think it would go without saying that if your partner had engaged in other high risk behaviours that would also be an issue.
 
I'm just turned on that miss smartandsexy is talking about pussy.
 
I've had oral sex with many women, and I guess never really gave it a lot of thought. The idea of licking and sucking latex sure doesn't do much for me, yuck. I like the taste of a womans juices.
 
I realize that that would be the "safe" thing to do, but it's just not appealing, perhaps it's risky, but I'm inclined to think I screen my partners and know them well enough and trust that if they have participated in risky behaviors they've been tested, as have I.

I'm not even a big fan of sex with condoms, but I know it's the safe thing to do, so I do.
 
Owera said:
I use condoms on women (and I'm a woman). I think it's safer than plastic wrap or anything like that. I usually just unroll the condom, then cut it up the side so I can unfold it and stretch it flat over her. I've never had any complaints from partners, and I haven't had any problems. The only thing that takes some getting used to is that latex flavor... bluh! :( Also, I used to be a big fan of UNlubricated condoms for that reason, but now it's getting increasingly hard to find them wihtout any sort of prelubrication. So that's putting a bit of a crimp in my style. But I absolutely will not compromise by putting myself at risk. Also, it can give your partner some peace of mind too, since people are capable of lying, and sometimes even people who aren't lying find out later that they have something and jsut didn't know about it. As I wish to avoid those types of problems, I always use a condom with any partner (male or female).
Hey O, may I implore you not to use condoms with male partners?

I know that's a pretty bold proposition, but given the events of the past year, the world is coming down to its 'last and best hope for humanity' options.

:p
 
LovingTongue said:
Hey O, may I implore you not to use condoms with male partners?

I know that's a pretty bold proposition, but given the events of the past year, the world is coming down to its 'last and best hope for humanity' options.
:p

Haha! Well, right now I would absolutely love to get pregnant, but I would NOT love to be pregnant with an STD, and I especially wouldn't want to be pregnant with HIV. Now, if I could be pregnant without any diseases I would have sex without condoms (of course, I'd inform the guy that I plan on getting pregnant... 'cause that's a hell of a thing to spring on someone after the fact). But unfortunately, right now I have to wait a couple years or so more before I have the time and resources to support a healthy child (which sucks, because I'm fast approaching 30). As much as I'd like a kid, though, I try to put aside my maternal urge for pregnancy because I think at this point, with the world's population being what it is, adoption is probably better. My friends and parents all give me the same line: "Smart people need to reproduce" so that the world isn't overun by dumbasses, but when the main problem is just too many people, well... I don't know if that quite justifies pregnancy for me. So in the future I may very well adopt.
 
smartandsexy said:
So we all know about using a condom when you're with a new partner or before you've both been tested to protect you against the nasties. For intercourse, this is straightforward.

But what about for oral sex? This is a lower risk activity for the transmission of HIV, but the risk is still there. Of course there are other STIs that can be passed on in this way too. So the safer way to have oral sex is with a condom or using a dental dam (or cling film!). I'm just wondering, honestly, are people as scrupulous with having safer oral sex as having safer vaginal or anal sex?

Personally, I will admit to having not practiced safer oral sex. I've only been with one man sexually prior to my fiance, and whilst if I were to have had intercourse with him I would definitely have used a condom, I did have oral sex with him without using anything. It was probably a very stupid thing to do, but I did it.

To be honest, I love giving head, but the thought of sucking a cock with a condom on is a total turn off. I'd like to some day experience going down on a woman, but I'm not inspired at the thought of licking her through latex or plastic wrap.

So I'm wondering how you honestly negotiate this? I suspect people will more readily engage in unprotected oral than unprotected intercourse - am I right? How do you square this with safety concerns?


I hate to burst your bubble, but oral sex regarding a female giving to a male is actually quite safe.

Unless you have open wounds in your mouth the cum will goto your stomach.

AIDS can't survive the acids in your stomach....

You're VERY likely to be safe.....from giving oral sex......

(FYI HIV can't survive sunlight or bleach either...but unless you want to open your veins to both, it's not a cure)
 
CoolBlue74 said:
I hate to burst your bubble, but oral sex regarding a female giving to a male is actually quite safe.

Unless you have open wounds in your mouth the cum will goto your stomach.

AIDS can't survive the acids in your stomach....

You're VERY likely to be safe.....from giving oral sex......

(FYI HIV can't survive sunlight or bleach either...but unless you want to open your veins to both, it's not a cure)
^^This is misinformation. ^^

There are STDs you can pick up just from contact. Herpes is one of those, as are gential warts. You don't need to touch cum in order to contract those diseases. So if a woman gives oral sex to a man who has herpes, warts, or chlamydia, there is a very real risk that she will get a disease (and yes, people can get chlamydia in their throat, and in rare instances even transmit it from throat to genitals, too). The mouth is full of membranes and mucus, and it's highly unlikely that someone would not have small cracks in their lips or gums. Also, with the mucus membranes inside the mouth being moist and soft, it is easy to pick up a disease that way. I repeat, touching cum has nothing to do with the transmission of many of those diseases. So my point here is that contact without cum is indeed a health risk. Also, things can be passed from the woman who is giving oral sex to the man who is receiving it--it works both ways. So there is a risk present for both people involved.
 
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