Don’t charge that electric vehicle: California braces for energy shortage thru Labor Day

[PaxNurgle]

Consumer demand should not be forced through mandates to outlaw the sales of non-electric vehicles, however.

Freedom of choice demands allowing consumer choice in this matter.

 

[JohnEBbad]

I love watching the Law of the Unintended Outcomes of Altruism when it wrecks the imagined machinations and pipe dreams of the myriad of moral busybodies who know best how to run the lives of everyone else. Not to get religious, but they all need a lot of remedial parable starting with glass houses and stones.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Scorching Temps Cause Power Outages for Thousands of SDG&E Customers​

Thousands of customers were without power Saturday evening during high temperatures across the county​

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...utages-for-nearly-10k-sdge-customers/3039096/

 

[AlexBailey]

I love watching the Law of the Unintended Outcomes of Altruism when it wrecks the imagined machinations and pipe dreams of the myriad of moral busybodies who know best how to run the lives of everyone else. Not to get religious, but they all need a lot of remedial parable starting with glass houses and stones.

You deserve to live downstream from those who push back against regulation. May you and your offspring be subjected to the consequences of the greed of more powerful men.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Aren't you glad you're up there in Alaska where there is no energy shortage...but still have plenty of spare time on your "Vacation" to spam the board, huh?

EDIT: But on a serious note, while I have no issue with electric vehicles at all (I actually support their use) the concerns of range and charging times are very valid. They are not popular in rural areas for a very good and valid reason, and not good for long-distance travel for the same reason.

And now, California is MANDATING that gasoline vehicles will no longer legally be sold there after a certain date. This is government overreach at it's worst! They should instead support a transition to electric vehicles through consumer incentives, tax rebates, etc. But to tell consumers what they can and cannot buy is simply not how the government is supposed to work in a free (and free market) society.

It’s the abortion argument.
California isn’t outlawing gasoline cars, they’re just saying you have to go to another state to get one.

 

[AlexBailey]

Exactly. You see those idiots being interviewed on tv standing around at s recharge station outdoors. Dummies.

And in cold or hilly places, EV?

Fuggetaboutit.

What's your issue with cold or hilly?

EVs are typically designed with the ability to keep their batteries warm, and sure it's a parasitic power draw, but the block heaters used in petrol-vehicles in cold climates do the same thing for the same reason.

As for hilly? What's the issue there? EV's have active traction control and many of them are all wheel drive. I borrowed a friend's Tesla S the other day. He lives off-grid and charges his battery from a solar power system, his shared dirt-driveway is a mile long and gets icy in winter. No problems, in fact it does much better than his BMW did. As an experiment I stopped on a gravel straightaway and floored the pedal. This car is capable of doing 0-60mph in less than 3 seconds but it did not spit gravel, not much anyway. It has the same resolution for traction control that a segway has for balance.

High output chargers are quickly getting better too. A level three charger can give you over 250 miles of driving in about twenty minutes.

A solar power system can be installed for less than $0.15 / kWh and an EV can typically get better than 3miles per kWh - so $0.05 / mile fuel cost. Compare that to a gas car getting 30 mpg at $3/gallon = $0.10/mile.

Don't be afraid of new things.

 

[iso36]

You should learn your topics.

Buying an Electric Car for a Cold Climate? Double Down on Range.
CR's experiences in bitter temps show that electric-vehicle batteries lose a lot of juice in the cold

-consumer reports

 

[ll74]

Scorching Temps Cause Power Outages for Thousands of SDG&E Customers​

Thousands of customers were without power Saturday evening during high temperatures across the county​

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...utages-for-nearly-10k-sdge-customers/3039096/

Wrong thread

 

[Pad_Foot]

My EV charges itself from 4 am to 7am every morning

Range? Do your fucking math!!

Stuck in traffic? Well new EV’s are in the fast track lanes, so no traffic
But? Standing still ??! Turn off radio, air conditioning, headlights?? No power drain! You gas guzzlers are still pumping out toxins. During the day? My solar cells pour energy into your homes so those early AM electrons are covered

But?? Just keep burying your head deeper in the sand like the oil producers want you to

Big Oil is making FOUR times last years profits??! Biden is causing inflation or Big Oil and other oil producing nations! Hmm Russia and the Saudi butcher??

 

[AlexBailey]

You should learn your topics.

Buying an Electric Car for a Cold Climate? Double Down on Range.
CR's experiences in bitter temps show that electric-vehicle batteries lose a lot of juice in the cold

-consumer reports

Cold batteries have a smaller capacity yet operating while cold (but still in operating range) is less wearing on their life expectancy, so other than a shorter range while cold the ready is a wash.

Even if the range is temporarily reduced to 100 miles that is still practical for the majority of daily drivers.

Consumer reports is based upon…wait for it….reports from consumers! The models and drivers who have had problems are going to be the ones filing reports - reports that are reviewed by manufacturers who use them as feedback. The automatic internal warming thing for batteries is still kind of new, as are the battery technologies being used. This is a relatively new industry and it is showing great adaptability and practicality.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And remember Californians, be sure to not charge your phones either. If you absolutely must, only charge to 27% of capacity.