Do you believe in the Devil?

[ll74]

The problem with your approach is that if there really is a God, “your problems” and what you’d “rather” won’t matter.

Most likely there is one religion that has it right, or close enough. To figure out which one, you probably have to put aside your own preferences and purposes.

Why is that most likely? Why wouldn't it just as likely that none of the religions has it right?

 

[ll74]

If you are more patient, I’m sure I will give you legitimate things to argue against. This kind of thing just makes you look dumber than you have to.

So it isn't about the devil?

 

[ll74]

I just made myself laugh!

I actually started to give you a real answer. Then I remembered what you are.

Awesome for you.

 

[Lazaran]

Please allow me to introduce myself…

 

[ll74]

Please allow me to introduce myself…

Woo woo....woo woo

 

[rgraham666]

The two most important questions are:

1) Is there a God?
2) If so, what does he expect of us?

The answers to those questions will affect the answers to many others.

1) Who knows?
2) Who cares?

 

[Pad_Foot]

SURE... God created everything... ALL POWER... ALL KNOWING ... OMNIPRESENT...
but.... created the Devil and can't control him. Multiple Gods??
Bullshit! The "Good Book" needed a bad guy.
They also needed to put all the other gods into some context.
It's great fun when you get to create religion!

 

[butters]

SURE... God created everything... ALL POWER... ALL KNOWING ... OMNIPRESENT...
but.... created the Devil and can't control him. Multiple Gods??
Bullshit! The "Good Book" needed a bad guy.
They also needed to put all the other gods into some context.
It's great fun when you get to create religion!

there's also that interesting take on the blatant plagiarism of older religions

 

[rgraham666]

People who are wiser than you.

So you are one of those people who believe that it is impossible to tell good from evil without a holy text to tell you which is which?

 

[ll74]

Good and evil were invented in books...so it makes sense to use books to differentiate them.

Oddly, why is it good and evil and not good and bad?

 

[rgraham666]

Good and evil were invented in books...so it makes sense to use books to differentiate them.

Oddly, why is it good and evil and not good and bad?

Bad is what happens to milk sitting in the fridge too long.

Evil is adding Sarin to the milk.

 

[ll74]

Bad is what happens to milk sitting in the fridge too long.

Evil is adding Sarin to the milk.

So why isn't it Angelic and Evil?

 

[Pad_Foot]

Then again? I would like to search all the Trump heads for 666 like Damien

He has a hold on the soul of America, and not for any good reasons

 

[Deleted member 6666935]

I’ve long thought that the creation of the devil myth was just a way for people to justify doing something they knew was wrong and got caught at it. Or to quote Geraldine Jones, “The devil made me do it!”

 

[rgraham666]

So why isn't it Angelic and Evil?

Because, personally, I don't like bringing anything smelling of theology into ethical debates.

Too often it makes what should be a guideline about being a better person into an excuse for being a dick to other human beings.

 

[ll74]

Because, personally, I don't like bringing anything smelling of theology into ethical debates.

Too often it makes what should be a guideline about being a better person into an excuse for being a dick to other human beings.

Yah, you don't seem to get my question.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So why isn't it Angelic and Evil?

Who was selling it?

The "good" who wanted to place prominence on the "bad".

Which is better, a comparative word statement, or a biased one to make your case? Using words that emphasis the bad as evil to make your point,while keeping the "good" as simple and pure.

 

[ll74]

Who was selling it?

The "good" who wanted to place prominence on the "bad".

Which is better, a comparative word statement, or a biased one to make your case? Using words that emphasis the bad as evil to make your point,while keeping the "good" as simple and pure.

I think you might be correct. Although I think it's more about the "evil" side in that religious folks wanted people to discourage bad behavior and so any bad behavior was seen as "evil".

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I think you might be correct. Although I think it's more about the "evil" side in that religious folks wanted people to discourage bad behavior and so any bad behavior was seen as "evil".

I'd agree, it was about discouragement of bad behaviour, as opposed to just placing a label on someone.

 

[ll74]

I'd agree, it was about discouragement of bad behaviour, as opposed to just placing a label on someone.

I'm sure there's a YouTube user discussing the history of this...just need to find it....lol

 

[Btq97]

No
In order to do that would have to believe in God.
God as a man made construct would give yo the Devil also as a man made construct.

 

[Chernosoth]

The thread title reminds me of this song. I heard it years ago and never got around to finding more Holly Golightly music.

 

[rgraham666]

Yah, you don't seem to get my question.

You didn't get my answer.

 

[ll74]

You didn't get my answer.

Considering it didn't address what I was asking, it was a non sequitur

 

[JuanTwoNo]

A powerful malicious entity dedicated to the corruption and destruction of mankind.

I’m active in adult entertainment and enjoy needling people about their attitudes. Some have called me an ally of the Devil.

I have never intended to be such and would not hold myself as evil. As far as an actual Devil, I’m with my fictional tiger friend Hobbes on the matter- “I’m not sure mankind needs that kind of help.”

What do

A powerful malicious entity dedicated to the corruption and destruction of mankind.

I’m active in adult entertainment and enjoy needling people about their attitudes. Some have called me an ally of the Devil.

I have never intended to be such and would not hold myself as evil. As far as an actual Devil, I’m with my fictional tiger friend Hobbes on the matter- “I’m not sure mankind needs that kind of help.”

What do you believe?

Yes, I do believe in an entity basically as you have described. I also KNOW that belief is not knowledge. The two can overlap when one believes something that is true but does not have necessary evidence proving it to be true. But when evidence does prove the truth of a belief, then it is no longer a belief. It's knowledge. I BELIEVE there is a devil. I don't know that. But things I've seen and thought about seem to be evidence. Just not in that cartoonist manner of the red horned malevolent ruler of the mythical hell.

And for those asserting that this is the wrong forum as this is a political forum, politics and religion are two sides of the same coin. They each seek control to govern the lives of others and of their society. That's politics. And they each seek to do so on the basis of what they believe to be right, That's religion. Reading the parameters given for this forum at the top, one listed is discussion of societal issues. How is religion not a societal issue? Or a political one, for that matter? Trying to exclude it on the basis of this being a political forum is the same as trying to prevent a political foe from being on the ballot.