Disobedient subs

Chris_Xavier

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This is a question for the subs - what would cause you to be disobedient and what would you do to be disobedient?

I'm curious to know to what level a "loyal sub" is really loyal and where the breaking point is. If you've disobeyed in the past, was it flagrant or just something subtle - like spitting in your Ds drink/soup/etc?

You can change the names and places to protect the "innocent" but do give as much detail as possible.
 
Chris_Xavier said:
This is a question for the subs - what would cause you to be disobedient and what would you do to be disobedient?

I'm curious to know to what level a "loyal sub" is really loyal and where the breaking point is. If you've disobeyed in the past, was it flagrant or just something subtle - like spitting in your Ds drink/soup/etc?

You can change the names and places to protect the "innocent" but do give as much detail as possible.


I wouldn't be blatantly disobedient. Ever. Doing that would mean I've lost respect for said Dom, and would signal the beginning of the end.

However, sometimes She likes me to 'be bad' and push at her until I earn some sort of devious punishment...that of course she had been planning for only-She-knows-how-long.

*and yes, I laugh at myself when capitalizing She... but it makes things way less ambiguous sometimes*
 
Me? I never disobey. ;)

No, seriously. I'm loyal to B. to the end. I do my best to always do what he asks. I try to talk to him about things that bother me rather than letting them fester inside me and cause me to do stupid passive-aggressive things to get his attention (which is really hard for me). I don't know that I've ever been blatantly disobedient. Blatant disobedience, to me, is like him saying, "Sweep the floor," and me saying, "Go fuck yourself."

The truth is, he never asks that much of me. (Yeah, I know that probably puts me in the "not REAL D/s" category, but whatever.) Because he doesn't ask much, I know that when he does ask, it's important. And if I think something's important to him, I'll go the the ends of the earth to do it for him.

However, while I've never just blatantly disobeyed a request, I have done some shitty things in the name of getting my way. I'm ashamed to say that I have picked fights with him just to get him to notice me (and for the makeup sex :D). I can be manipulative, but I try not to let myself be. I think the only way I'd ever be blatantly disobedient was if he wanted me to do something that was against my decidedly flexible morals (like hurting someone I love or committing a crime for no good reason).

What can I say? We have a weird, not-so-conventional M/s relationship.
 
I have always said that I would do anything and everything my Dom would ask of me.

The key there is that I know him well enough that there are certain things he would never ask me to do--like neglect my children or my husband.

I do have one weakness (well, really more than one, but one big one) that is I like to flirt and this sometimes gets me in trouble. But since I haven't been ordered not to flirt it is just a question of me sometimes being careless and going to far.

I have never believed in disobeying or being bad just to be punished even though I do enjoy punishment whippings very much.
 
skittles_lm said:
I wouldn't be blatantly disobedient. Ever. <snip>

*and yes, I laugh at myself when capitalizing She... but it makes things way less ambiguous sometimes*

Not even just some minor disobedience?
 
I guess I'm "weird" but I like a mouthy sub. I want a reason to flog her ass and this nibble on it and go further from there (make up sex? - maybe) but then again my big rush in being a Dom is the control and exercising it. Not so much a sadist because I don't spank hard (but I will make the sub bring the switch, flail, etc) unless I know the person I'm spanking can take it or wants it.
 
Chris_Xavier said:

Not even just some minor disobedience?


noy purposely, no. why in the world would I do that? the only punishment that comes from disobedience in this house is when she ignores me.

this is very, very bad. I cannot stand being ignored. So I avoid this at all costs.

Anyhow, I like rewards better than punishment usually, although some couldn't tell the difference between the two!
 
Chris_Xavier said:
I guess I'm "weird" but I like a mouthy sub. I want a reason to flog her ass and this nibble on it and go further from there (make up sex? - maybe) but then again my big rush in being a Dom is the control and exercising it. Not so much a sadist because I don't spank hard (but I will make the sub bring the switch, flail, etc) unless I know the person I'm spanking can take it or wants it.

B. likes that I'm a smartass. We enjoy trying to run circles around each other intellectually. I may say something, and he may slap me for my "insolence," but he'll be smiling all the while. He doesn't need an excuse to beat the hell out of me, though. :D
 
CutieMouse said:
The person with whom I had a 2 year long non-relationship LDR felt Lit was a terrible place for me, and didn't provide any mature, well reasoned, practical, realistic examples of people who knew what the hell they were doing with regards to BDSM, and told me to leave the site.

I did for a while... and gained some perspectives I'd otherwise have struggled to see, had I continued to view Lit as a primary information resource... but after a few months I decided "lesson learned; this is stupid", and I started hanging out here again. I never bothered telling him, as my decision occured during one of the points at which he was pontificating that I wasn't nearly serious enough about XYZ to be involved with face to face, so I never really thought it was any of his business, actually...

Knew I could count on you, CM - glad you are still taking the time to give us your input even though all know your attention is elsewhere!
 
BiBunny said:
B. likes that I'm a smartass. We enjoy trying to run circles around each other intellectually. I may say something, and he may slap me for my "insolence," but he'll be smiling all the while. He doesn't need an excuse to beat the hell out of me, though. :D


Smartasses are fun! Good sarcasm is like a fine wine to me.
 
Chris_Xavier said:
I guess I'm "weird" but I like a mouthy sub. I want a reason to flog her ass and this nibble on it and go further from there (make up sex? - maybe) but then again my big rush in being a Dom is the control and exercising it. Not so much a sadist because I don't spank hard (but I will make the sub bring the switch, flail, etc) unless I know the person I'm spanking can take it or wants it.


In my opinion there is a big difference between being disobedient and being mouthy. I won't disobey, but I will be playful and teasing. That has gotten me in trouble enough.
 
CutieMouse said:
I'm weird in that I'd much rather just say "BTW- I could really go for some seriously rough sex/spanking/yadayadayada today... Sweetheart... My Love... ya know... just sayin'..." than brat things up to get what I want. LOL


A bratty sub to me is like foreplay. I really feel my eyes light up when I get bratty comments.
 
ecstaticsub said:
In my opinion there is a big difference between being disobedient and being mouthy. I won't disobey, but I will be playful and teasing. That has gotten me in trouble enough.

True enough - and I'm looking for instances of both. I know there have been times that somebody out there has gone out their way to disobey their D because they were pissed off or whatever.
 
I'm consistantly bratty. I was chatting with LadyAgie once, and M_Wisdom and M told me that he was gonna email K and tell him how bad I am. I leaned back in my chair and said 'K? MWisdom wants to tell you how bad I am.' K rolled his eyes and said, "Tell him not to bother, I'll tell him how bad you are!" LOL Frankly if I wasn't bratty K would think I was angry with him, I'm just naturally a smart ass. *shrugs*

As for disobeying, well I'm pretty good. I'm more likely to forget to do things, and that's mostly cause of the anemia, it's made my short term memory really bad. (Or so my doctors tell me.) That said - I do sneak chocolate. I'd bet that K knows, though, since I don't feel well when I do.
 
graceanne said:
That said - I do sneak chocolate. I'd bet that K knows, though, since I don't feel well when I do.

Take it from a chocolatier - that stuff is bad for you! :cattail:
 
ecstaticsub said:
In my opinion there is a big difference between being disobedient and being mouthy. I won't disobey, but I will be playful and teasing. That has gotten me in trouble enough.


exactly.

hell, i haven't met an un-sammy sub on here.
 
Chris_Xavier said:
Take it from a chocolatier - that stuff is bad for you! :cattail:

I have crohns disease, it's very difficult for me to digest, but frankly I'm addicted. After assholes suicide my sister drank and I ate chocolate. *shrugs*
 
I've had to willfully disobey a couple times with my current partner to get a point across. Sometimes, it's the only way to really make him pay attention, sit back and think about something he just said or did. It isn't because I don't respect him or anything; it's because it's the quickest way or the only way to get through to him. Afterwards, we talk about what happened and what we can do to avoid it in the future. Hasn't failed us yet.

Lisa
 
I'd never disobey ... be mouthy at times.... or a smartass hehehe yeah .. but that's my personality

I think it greatly depends on the relationship between D/s
 
Chris_Xavier said:
If you've disobeyed in the past, was it flagrant or just something subtle - like spitting in your Ds drink/soup/etc?
Did he specify not to spit in the "Ds drink/soup etc " ?

If he hasn't , then technically nothing has been disobeyed.

Ahuh humor :) I hope the reference to the potential spitting in your dominants food was also. Adding 'subtle' was a charming touch. I can't even consider the question I am so stuck there.

Chris how on earth did you even think of that ?

No soup for you !!!
 
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