Democrats are pushing America toward economic disaster

[icanhelp1]

Did you see that the idiot said? The SOB should be impeached for knowingly violating the Constitution.

“Whether that option will pass constitutional measure with this administration, I can’t tell you. I don’t know,” There are a few scholars who say it will, and others who say it’s not likely to. But, at a minimum, by the time it gets litigated it will probably give some additional time while we’re getting that $45 billion out to people who are in fact behind in the rent and don’t have the money."

He should also be brought up on charges of treason for failure to provide for the security of our nation, failure to abide and enforce our immigration laws, spreading covid-19 within our borders. Biden and his merry band of idiots are a disgrace to their offices governing by an ideological concept rather than common sense.

Biden is committing national suicide and brick by brick dissolving what most of us call national sovereignty in the hopes of short term gains.

 

[pecksniff]

He should also be brought up on charges of treason for failure to provide for the security of our nation, failure to abide and enforce our immigration laws, spreading covid-19 within our borders.

The immigrants are carrying nothing that wasn't here already.

Disease is a very, very old anti-immigrant dogwhistle.

Biden is committing national suicide and brick by brick dissolving what most of us call national sovereignty in the hopes of short term gains.

National sovereignty is grossly overrated, and has been for more than two centuries now.

 

[innocntplay]

The solution is simple ... when there is a shortage of gasoline.. gas prices go up .. shortage of lumber .. prices go up

Its called supply and demand
Its one of the basic principles of capitalism that Republicans live so much

Labor prices need to go up


In my opinion i think this spotlights how the Republicans are out for the rich

How come gas goes up .. lumber goes up .. soybeans .. every other thing goes up when there is a shortage


But not labor

Below is an interesting news story about an ice cream shop that couldnt find anyone to work .. and i mean nobody

Please give it a quick read
Not everything has to be partisan politics


https://www.businessinsider.com/ice...mum-wage-pay-flooded-with-applications-2021-5

Hahaha You are joking right miss mandy?

Labor doesn't go up when no one is working.

Labor doesn't go up now because there are no shortages. The lack of goods has been imposed by the current Liberal machine. These high prices are shortages.

That is what this thread is about. The regime in power is breaking the back of the economic engine. The lower and middle class is paying the price. The rich can still afford anything they want hat they can find. Say Obama's. 4 mega mansion's jets and fuel. Endless food supply. 500 head parties....

If you are not joking which part do you not understand?

 

[pecksniff]

The lack of goods has been imposed by the current Liberal machine.

How does that work?

 

[icanhelp1]

The immigrants are carrying nothing that wasn't here already.

That's the dumbest statement to date!

Disease is a very, very old anti-immigrant dogwhistle.

No-one is anti-immigrant just anti-illegal immigrant. I don't want my hard earned money used for people who don't belong here, invading our country and abusing our laws. We don't owe these people anything, you want them go to the border pick up a handful of them and bring them home with you, spend your money on them.

National sovereignty is grossly overrated, and has been for more than two centuries now.

Our country is limited in resources, we can't provide for the whole planet. Most countries would disagree with you on national sovereignty. Second dumbest statement to date.

 

[WillJ8787]

Hahaha You are joking right miss mandy?

Labor doesn't go up when no one is working.

Labor doesn't go up now because there are no shortages. The lack of goods has been imposed by the current Liberal machine. These high prices are shortages.

That is what this thread is about. The regime in power is breaking the back of the economic engine. The lower and middle class is paying the price. The rich can still afford anything they want hat they can find. Say Obama's. 4 mega mansion's jets and fuel. Endless food supply. 500 head parties....

If you are not joking which part do you not understand?

Ah, no, she is correct. Labor shortages should lead to increased wages.

Employers are resisting this....which will drive up wages even more.

Base wages in my area are now pushing $20/hour with signing bonus of $500 to $1000.

Miss Mandy is 100% correct!

 

[pecksniff]

That's the dumbest statement to date!

You know it's true. We already have covid here, including the delta variant. Sealing the border would help not at all.

 

[icanhelp1]

You know it's true. We already have covid here, including the delta variant. Sealing the border would help not at all.

Third dumbest statement!

 

[pecksniff]

Third dumbest statement!

You know it's true.

 

[innocntplay]

Ah, no, she is correct. Labor shortages should lead to increased wages.

Employers are resisting this....which will drive up wages even more.

Base wages in my area are now pushing $20/hour with signing bonus of $500 to $1000.

Miss Mandy is 100% correct!

Not.

Labor is not going up because the "shortages" are not what caused the artificial increase in costs.

 

[pecksniff]

Not.

Labor is not going up because the "shortages" are not what caused the artificial increase in costs.

How does that work?

 

[innocntplay]

ED
Lax economy.
Still can't see the data on which jobs are the 9 million open jobs. Wish there was a breakdown on that. I can see restaurant and hotel staff not wanting to go to work. And understand the argument they are paid to stay home. But feel it is more the nonsense media and whoever is manning the biden puppet strings propagandising the covid remnants. Then there is the free money argument as well. But eliminating that to make the workers that consider their job to be in harms way? Is that fair? I hate it for the restaurants but there were only two here I would go to and one closed before the pandemic. The grandmother with the authentic recipes passed away and business dropped off shortly after. Was sad for the family business and the family. Again I hate it for restaurants and hotels but do not feel it is for me to force these workers back to it. Personally my opinion would be that those jobs were filled as a second income to the family or a younger person anyway. I understand why they are not filled.
But manufacturing where pay is better. How many of those jobs are vacant? How many of the jobs that produce items hard to find on the shelves are actually US jobs? Biden regime is doing nothing to promote US business.
The increased cost of everything being evidenced as inflation. Smoke and mirrors folks. Find a shortage. Fuel is up and the source of the fuel has been limited by government. Even elec and gas to heat your home has been attacked by this regime. There is not a lack of trees for lumber. Food production is being hacked by climate orders and other liberal views on what we should eat and why. All artificial cost increases imposed by liberal gov. Several of these causes were from Joe Biden executive orders to simply negate the success of President Trump. I know you hate to hear that but it is true. You know it and it makes you ill because your way isn't working and hasn't worked for dem's going back to Kennedy.
I'm in VA outside DC and have to be honest. All of my neighbors are working or retired before and during covid not much change at all. There was some down time for some early on. the ones that were in a bracket that received the "stimulus" made a joke of it. Other friends in the retail business advised on the second stimulus they more than met their annual sales projection.
The pressure on inflation could easily be reigned in. The libs are pushing trillions of borrowed money into the economy. Stop it. Simple as that. Stimulus is fine but all these nonsense programs and ear marks... Stupid. the states can deal with that. The fed gov should not be feeding states cash. It is not distributed equally per state. And to be honest where I see these bills passed with abortion, blm, white supremacy, covid fear mongering bordering on control or population manipulation none of that money should be included. Trillions would become billions and something we could recover from without inflation and you wait. Go back to your economics class. What comes after inflation?
The moratoium on evictions is a Dem media scheme. A talking point for freedom haters. You may see families evicted if they are trying to live off the stimulous. I get that. But I do not see them lining the streets. The dollars from the trillions for the renters is actually for the landlord's banks. The renter never sees the money or anything. The property owner is the one required to request the relief. And it is not for rent. It is for the loss they incur when the rent is unpaid. Not the lost income from rent. The program is basically there to prop up the mortgage banks holding notes that would go unpaid.
Another cost killing America is unfettered boarder crossing. Close the border. At the very least test for covid and the variants? Jesus they are trying to force us to carry papers or have a test vaccine for an already cured pandemic. At least that is what Biden and the media are saying. Covid19 is gone. There is not a vaccine for all the variants. But they want you to get it anyway. If they are sick they don't cross. My family was held for moths on Ellis Island before they were allowed entry. And even then they had to follow the lawful process to citizenship. Since the current regime the lawful immigration process has not been properly managed. The backlog is horrible. And these are people that want to participate as American's. Not people coming with drugs or a hand out for assistance. The costs and long term costs of all these never to be documented people is not calculable.
Trump had it right. I am also curious what are other nations doing? I know there are not any other free countries. But how are the socialists authoritarian communist govt's making out? Were they already broke and we can't see? You sure can't rely on media for that and the search engines are all filtered for data they want you to see or not see, The facts are missing. Even the CIA World Fact Book is propaganda since the Biden regime.

 

[pecksniff]

I know there are not any other free countries.

See the WSJ/Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

 

[CornusKousa]

See the WSJ/Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Economic doesn't account for social freedom.

 

[CornusKousa]

Why would you start by enforcing immigration laws and borders when that is a lot of work?

1) It's the law.

2) Cutting off the supply of low/no skill labor drive the base value of labor up.

Clearly ICE and other LEOs know where these people are employed. I can either chase 100 workers and their families or five employers and keep fining and incarcerating them until hiring under the table is unthinkable.

It's not employers job to enforce immigration laws.

It's ICE's.

But you remembered correctly. It is white supremacy and if it wasn't we'd solve the problem with ease.

No, it's not. There is absolutely nothing racist about controlling immigration.

I was making fun of race baiting idiots who think there is.

 

[innocntplay]

See the WSJ/Heritage Index of Economic Freedom.

Ok singapore homeless https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...nic%20issue.&usg=AOvVaw1lZlsnb2ARsZ9w0wk2vThd

Assistance programs seem very limited and immigration controlled. Not many poor people that's for sure. Even with 9+% unemployment. They are dependent on migrants as well. Not a totally good comparison. Looks like a place for oppressed Asians to prosper in a parliamentary society.

 

[Sean Renaud]

1) It's the law.

2) Cutting off the supply of low/no skill labor drive the base value of labor up.



It's not employers job to enforce immigration laws.

It's ICE's.



No, it's not. There is absolutely nothing racist about controlling immigration.

I was making fun of race baiting idiots who think there is.

Ignore the immigration laws that are misdemeanors and enforce the employment laws that felonies. Yes it is racist to make that choice.

 

[CornusKousa]

Ignore the immigration laws that are misdemeanors and enforce the employment laws that felonies.

1) It should be both.

2) Illegal entry and overstay should be the felony, and employing them should be the misdemeanor.

3) enforce the immigration laws, no employment issues in the first place.

Yes it is racist to make that choice.

No, because "racism" means something and "things leftist don't like" isn't it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

1) It should be both.

2) Illegal entry and overstay should be the felony, and employing them should be the misdemeanor.

3) enforce the immigration laws, no employment issues in the first place.



No, because "racism" means something and "things leftist don't like" isn't it.

Both not only is a waste of resources but focusing on the border actually makes illegal immigration MORE lucrative not less.

But you're entire philosphy is based on racism. ITs not based on logic.'

 

[pecksniff]

Economic doesn't account for social freedom.

Then see the Democracy Index.

 

[pecksniff]

3) enforce the immigration laws, no employment issues in the first place.

That wouldn't work. Most "illegals" are people who entered the country legally but overstayed their visas.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That wouldn't work. Most "illegals" are people who entered the country legally but overstayed their visas.

Not MOST but a large enough number that it would make more sense to make it easier to get in the country legally and leave legally. But this is issue is about race not about law.

The highest consistent rate I could see suggests its about 40%.

 

[CornusKousa]

Both not only is a waste of resources

I don't think protecting the nation and it's economic and social stability is a waste.

but focusing on the border actually makes illegal immigration MORE lucrative not less.

All the more reasons to make the consequences of making forced entry (border jumping) so mother fucking severe and horrifying that legal entry is the ONLY way to go.

OR!!! (and) I'd be more than willing to have a "Sign in and fill out your citizenship paperwork at the port of entry and we're all good!" open immigration policy.

Under the condition we shit ca the welfare state.

But you're entire philosphy is based on racism. ITs not based on logic.'

Liberalism isn't a racist philosophy. Quite the opposite.

Racial identitarianism and ethno-socialism (the DNC's official platform) however is.

 

[pecksniff]

I don't think protecting the nation and it's economic and social stability is a waste.

When stated in those terms, it usually is.

 

[CornusKousa]

Then see the Democracy Index.

Democracy =/= liberty....most of the time quite the opposite.

That wouldn't work. Most "illegals" are people who entered the country legally but overstayed their visas.

Even if that were true, that's not a reason to have open borders.

Just another reason to end the war on drugs, send all DEA agents to ICE.