Defining the Undefinable?

[Alas Poor Yorick]

If you really think about it, no matter what he answers, You can always ask WHY? The question can always be asked of it's own answer. A perfect circle. You could even start with Why? Most people would then ask why what? You then ask why? and so on and so forth. Most people will get mad before long though and quit.

So you have answered your own question Kikmosa. You can always ask another question to any answer, but that new question does not negate the answer to the previous question, nor the questions validity.

 

[kikmosa]

So you have answered your own question Kikmosa. You can always ask another question to any answer, but that new question does not negate the answer to the previous question, nor the questions validity.

But I asked for a question that when answered, the exact same question could be asked of the answer. I knew of the WHY? but I was hoping that you or someone else would know of another.
The other basic questions of who, when, where, and how, can all be answered in so specific a manner that they cannot be asked again about the answer. Why can never be fully answered in that way.

 

[kikmosa]

Gee.... it's been a long time since anyone posted here. I guess i must have run everyone off.

Doesn't anyone have a question that's been bothering them for a long time? A definition that they question?

 

[Bachlum Chaam]

(Warning: This thread is a total mind-blower. If you can't take it then please don't read any further.)


Ok folks, here's the thing. For a long time I had questions that seem to never have an answer or the answer is another question. I've decided to post some of them here and see what everyone else comes up with. Here's the first one.

How do you define something that by it's own definition has no definition?
For instance, defining the term God. By the definition, God is an entity with infinate and unknowable powers that is beyond anything man can define. The definition says that he cannot be defined but by defining that much don't we put a limit on the definition? And doesn't limiting the defination change the definition? If we say that His power is unknowable then we're limiting it by saying that he cannot make it known to us therefore it has a limit which means that it can be knowable. By saying His power has no limit but is infinate we contridict the difinition.
So, do we limit something by defining it even if the definition says that it's unlimited, and if we do don't we make our definition void?

Lol, have I confused you enough yet?

Kiki how about the concept of God used to control the masses and the populace which is all it is about,keep the peasants doing what you want by religion etc
greetings Bachlum Chaam

 

[kikmosa]

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Kiki how about the concept of God used to control the masses and the populace which is all it is about,keep the peasants doing what you want by religion etc
greetings Bachlum Chaam

When used in that manner it's ceases to be God and a definition of God and becomes Master and a definition of Master. Not truly the same thing. They changed it by defining it differently. for it to become God again, you have to change the way you define God. Of course God becomes, to us, whatever we define him as.
Also we have no way of knowing if the definition we are using is in any way correct. The bible specifically states that we should listen to our leaders in the church and then read it for ourselves and choose our own definition. By merely accepting what we are told and not thinking for ourselves, we are choosing to live by the definition of another. Those who try to control the masses with their own definition of God are limiting not only their definition of God but of themselves and others. And not in a good way.

 

[Bachlum Chaam]

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When used in that manner it's ceases to be God and a definition of God and becomes Master and a definition of Master. Not truly the same thing. They changed it by defining it differently. for it to become God again, you have to change the way you define God. Of course God becomes, to us, whatever we define him as.
Also we have no way of knowing if the definition we are using is in any way correct. The bible specifically states that we should listen to our leaders in the church and then read it for ourselves and choose our own definition. By merely accepting what we are told and not thinking for ourselves, we are choosing to live by the definition of another. Those who try to control the masses with their own definition of God are limiting not only their definition of God but of themselves and others. And not in a good way.

But was the bible written to control the populace in the first place, hence religion is born and all religions demand obediance or if I,m wrong I,ll let you know when I snuff it my lady
greetings Bachlum Chaam

p.s. you are to clever by half my lady

 

[kikmosa]

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But was the bible written to control the populace in the first place, hence religion is born and all religions demand obediance or if I,m wrong I,ll let you know when I snuff it my lady
greetings Bachlum Chaam

p.s. you are to clever by half my lady

I don't believe the origanal bible was wirtten so much to control as to guide the people. I do however believe that the bible has change each time it has been translated to another language. Each inturpteter would give it the meaning he placed on it. That would be dictated by the sociatity he was raised in and the definitions he used in his own life. We have no way of knowing what the origanal really said unless we saw it and could read it ourselves.

 

[kikmosa]

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my lady
greetings Bachlum Chaam

p.s. you are to clever by half my lady

Nay, indeed sir, if you were to take out most of the words, which are mere nonsense, you would find that I am truly saying that I don't know, I would like to know but that I will never really know for sure.

 

[kikmosa]

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Doesn't any one else have a question that they would like to air? Something running through your mind that has you wondering?

 

[kikmosa]

bump

 

[kikmosa]

How do you define a concept such as Love? Or Hate?

 

[kikmosa]

How do you define a concept such as Love? Or Hate?

Guess no one is interested anymore.