Defining Love

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
CRACKING UP!!! So true........I still like Smarty Jones to be a triple crowner.... Back to you DLL in our NY bureau.....

 

[Ammo44]

well ammo its suppose to be a beautiful day in the big apple..i will be dressed in my finest suit and will report all the cummings and goings here.....until then come here and let me taste what a frango is.....

Pressing my lips to yours.........kissing you hungrily......slipping frango .......letting you also taste my tongue.....

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Ammo44
Pressing my lips to yours.........kissing you hungrily......slipping frango .......letting you also taste my tongue.....

 

[DLL]

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[midwestyankee]

DLL, we will miss your poems.

 

[Ammo44]

God..........Frangos were never more fun than that..........*returning your crop and silk scarves*.....see you later DLL......

 

[DLL]

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[midwestyankee]

I don't think we've fully thrashed out this question of love as an emotion rather than as a force that motivates actions. What do you think?

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
I don't think we've fully thrashed out this question of love as an emotion rather than as a force that motivates actions. What do you think?

 

[midwestyankee]

Yank i am not qualified to comment on such things.....want to talk about baseball,lacrosse,hockey then look me up.... I will leave that topic for the other DL posters....I try not to anaylize my feelings about love its something that is....thats all....and the people that I am close to know I love them ..
what I would like to dicuss is have you ever thought someone was a cool person but later found out they were totally fucked up???

Yes. But then I have also learned that sometimes the way I see someone else can say a lot more about me than about the other person. As a result, I've learned to reflect on what I think of other people before I make final judgments about them.

 

[~Dream~]

Yes. But then I have also learned that sometimes the way I see someone else can say a lot more about me than about the other person. As a result, I've learned to reflect on what I think of other people before I make final judgments about them.

LOL or even sometimes the person REALLY WAS way fucked up and we looked at them thru 'rose -colored glasses' so to speak...

I think only when we judge others is when we are truly being Wrong because who DOESNt have any skeletons in their backyard is what I wanna know??We find flaws easily sometimes cause there are those same flaws within ourselves..

 

[midwestyankee]

LOL or even sometimes the person REALLY WAS way fucked up and we looked at them thru 'rose -colored glasses' so to speak...

I think only when we judge others is when we are truly being Wrong because who DOESNt have any skeletons in their backyard is what I wanna know??We find flaws easily sometimes cause there are those same flaws within ourselves..

Please don't misunderstand my post. I did not mean to imply that I sit in judgment of others. It's just that I reflect on my own responses to someone's behavior before I form my opinion about that person.

 

[~Dream~]

Please don't misunderstand my post. I did not mean to imply that I sit in judgment of others. It's just that I reflect on my own responses to someone's behavior before I form my opinion about that person.

I think maybe you misunderstood me as well ..I just meant there really ARE some seriously FUCKED UP people out there and sometimes those of us with kind ,caring ,hearts can be taken advantage of ..that's all ...Nothing personal towards You yank ..

 

[Cathleen]

Its all about actions and behaviors to me. I agree Dream, what we don't like in others is usually what we don't like in ourselves but perhaps haven't seen yet.

People can be different from me, in thoughts and deeds but that doesn't make me want to place a judgement upon them. I do make judgements each day about all manner of things and people. But there is a big difference between being judgemental and make judgements. We must make judgements, its part of life. What we want for ourselves or others, with whom we want to spend time, how we spend our time with ourselves.

But finding someone isn't who you thought previously is just knowledge. A measurement does not have to come into the equation. It can and does sometimes but it need not. We are all different, thats beautiful.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
Please don't misunderstand my post. I did not mean to imply that I sit in judgment of others. It's just that I reflect on my own responses to someone's behavior before I form my opinion about that person.

 

[~Dream~]

Love's Delicate Thread"

How delicate the thread, but strong the bond
When sharing souls unite
In distant space, but familiar time
To share in love's delight.

I'll hold you closely in my dreams
Gently, yet very tight
To share my love, and share my desires
Throughout the celestial night.

And when I awake, and you are gone
The memories will carry me through
Into the days and nights ahead
In all I reflect and do.

~

 

[~Dream~]

Love is an infinite energy. It is the energy that supports the physical universe. While gravity and its counterpoint, negative gravity, are the elemental physical forces that hold the universe together, love is the energetic force that allows these two forces to exist. Gravity and negative gravity, in essence, rest on the energy of love.

Love is the primary form of spiritual energy that every person recognizes. It is the energy of life itself. Love is. It is constant and always available. The more we grow in our ability to experience love, the deeper our understanding of ourselves, humanity, Nature and the Spiritual Universe becomes.

Love is an ever-present spiritual force. It is both sublimely gentle and immensely powerful. The extent of its power far exceeds our intellectual capacity to comprehend it. The point is not so much to understand love, as to expand our experience and acceptance of it.

Love can completely transform anyone at any time. Nothing is static within love; love is forever moving forward. When we disengage from this forward movement - when we refuse to move into a fuller and more accurate expression of ourselves - we are separated from love. We recognize this separation as unhappiness, confusion and pain.

When we feel disconnected from love and loving experiences, we not only suffer from a lack of physical intimacy and the security of having someone in our life who loves us, we also feel disconnected from the larger energetic forces of love. This larger disconnection will leave us feeling deeply alone. Even finding a soul mate doesn't solve this deeper yearning.

The need for love permeates our lives, but we can easily confuse what we are really after for what we think we want. The desire to be in a loving and healthy relationship is perfectly normal. We all deserve this. But beneath this natural human motivation is our profound desire to strengthen and clarify our relationship with spiritual consciousness.

The path we each take to enhance our spiritual relationships is very personal, but within each path's design lies the common experience of love. Love is the language we share with spiritual beings. It is the language we share with every living thing within nature and with all people.

 

[~Dream~]

By the way ...

These are NOt My words ..But I sure do wish I had wrote them..

**How do we increase our ability to give and receive love? **

We begin by further developing our relationship with ourselves.

We accept our own goodness and rightfulness to be in this life, and strive to see love in the world around us.

We acknowledge that we may have a need to judge ourselves or others, and we work to replace that need with an ever strengthening ability to love.

We strive to feel and see love every day in fully conscious and active ways.

We assume responsibility for how we love and how well we receive love.

We look to our own interior, where our connection to the infinite qualities of love can be found, and allow everything to multiply from there. And...

We recognize that although we may have thought we were doing just fine with our ability to love, there is everything to be gained by seeing if we can't do better.

Can any of this be done passively? While love is everywhere and available to everyone, we often unknowingly place obstacles in our path that either slow down or completely divert the flow of love to us. The result of this is that less love gets through. With less love making its way to us, it follows that we have fewer chances to receive it. When our ability to absorb love is diminished in this way, we find it increasingly difficult to love others as purely and directly as we might want. And like a muscle that atrophies from inactivity, we gradually lose the capacity to fully give and receive love. We shift out of Spiritual Balance and into a kind of energetic crisis. While many things may be flowing into our lives, love is obstructed. Clearing those obstructions requires action.


To increase the flow of love into our lives we must stand up within our own light and actively learn to give and receive love more fully and far more consistently. This is one of our primary spiritual challenges. We are all up to the task.

~ ~

 

[Cathleen]

Holy Moly Dream there is so much in that post! Woweeee, thanks for all of it. Feeling overload on that, so much to consider.

Thanks!


Dream, from where did those words come, please?

 

[Cathleen]

well i think all people judge others despite what they might think....for example..2 women go to a job to interview for the same position...one is dressed beautifully ..prada bag matching shoes hair and makeup and figure just perfect... college grad...the other dressed plainer a bit overweight and college grad....guess who would get the job???
Trump said it best .... appearance means everything

Appearance does matter in some instances, however is hollow. Making a judement and being judgemental are so different in my mind.

Your example is one of superficialality, yes it exsists but it matters not to my soul. To my pocketbook yes, but not my personal growth and development. But even with that example there is something prior that had to exsist for the judgement to occur. Pre-conceived notions need to be challenged, believes we once had may no longer suit us, there are those that are enlightened to see these simple judgements and know enough to let them go.

I hope.

 

[Cathleen]

Yes. But then I have also learned that sometimes the way I see someone else can say a lot more about me than about the other person. As a result, I've learned to reflect on what I think of other people before I make final judgments about them.

I think its about knowing yourself. I don't mean to sound trite, but the phrase "An unexamined life.....".

I can look at someone's actions and not pass judgement on them but can say, "that's not a behavior for me". I will not offend them by saying they can't do that, rather its just not something for me. For instance, I do not want to ride a roller coaster, but someone else does...... its not a matter of judgement that they are perhaps more fearless than me, its just an action I'd rather not take.

I'm not sure I'm making any sense anymore.

 

[~Dream~]

I think its about knowing yourself. I don't mean to sound trite, but the phrase "An unexamined life.....".

I can look at someone's actions and not pass judgement on them but can say, "that's not a behavior for me". I will not offend them by saying they can't do that, rather its just not something for me. For instance, I do not want to ride a roller coaster, but someone else does...... its not a matter of judgement that they are perhaps more fearless than me, its just an action I'd rather not take.

I'm not sure I'm making any sense anymore.

** making 'PERFECT' sense to me...

 

[Cathleen]

** making 'PERFECT' sense to me...

So would you like to attempt to explain to me what I said!! lol

Lincoln's quote "I do not like that man. I need to get to know him better", seems to make things more clear to me.

 

[~Dream~]

I think in essence you were trying to say that as long as we take the time we can find a little bit of good at least in almost everyone..

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by ~Dream~
I think in essence you were trying to say that as long as we take the time we can find a little bit of good at least in almost everyone..