Defining Love

[jussforfun]

Hi screech...how are you ..all fed now????i am still deciding what cereal to eat...frosted flakes or fruit loops....decisions ..decisions...


sensing something???between fun and me...hmmmm(hes just too easy to tease)

Yea and dont you ever forget it you evil woman

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
There is no one single key in my view. Communication is critical, but so are patience, understanding, acceptance, forgiveness, and the willingness to extend ourselves completely to the betterment of our beloved.

Sex? That's the vehicle with which we do a fair amount of our communication, caring, and acceptance. It is through the body that we make love to the spirit whom we love.

I hope that makes sense.

 

[Falkieri]

There is no one single key in my view. Communication is critical, but so are patience, understanding, acceptance, forgiveness, and the willingness to extend ourselves completely to the betterment of our beloved.

Sex? That's the vehicle with which we do a fair amount of our communication, caring, and acceptance. It is through the body that we make love to the spirit whom we love.

I hope that makes sense.

That makes perfect sense MWY, and I have to agree with all of it

 

[Screech]

Hi screech...how are you ..all fed now????i am still deciding what cereal to eat...frosted flakes or fruit loops....decisions ..decisions...


sensing something???between fun and me...hmmmm(hes just too easy to tease)

All fed up, and ready to catch 40 winks! I always liked frosted flakes, or as we call them, Frosties!

Guess I must be recieving those missing Beagle sattelite signals then!

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Falkieri
Definitely. That does not mean its a wise thing to do....lol. I've done it twice in the past. You get to know people more online (IF they are not putting on a persona and role playing with you), than you do in real life, in a shorter amount of time. After all, what can you do here but talk. The problem, though, is too many people thing because they can talk to someone here, and enjoy their company, that it will be the same in real life, when there is more to do than just sit with each other and talk. Its easy not to realize that you may have few or no things in commong you both like to do, for instance.

 

[Falkieri]

hi horned one..i thought i saw something hard and pointy here....

lol.....Hiya stranger......smiles.......don't like Unicorns anymore? <sniff sniff>

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by jussforfun
Yea and dont you ever forget it you evil woman

 

[GiveawayGirl]

What??? any one have a MWY translator around?????

DLL, I've found that if you remove every other word and read his sentences backward they all say "Paul is dead, Paul is dead"

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Falkieri
lol.....Hiya stranger......smiles.......don't like Unicorns anymore? <sniff sniff>

 

[Screech]

i love unicorns....i need to get myself one ..you know i love horses where have you been hiding???

You know, they are half way to proving that Unicorns existed - they were mentioned in the bible, apparently!

 

[midwestyankee]

The thing is, though, online you get to know someone far more intimately than you usually do in real life. Yes, some people put on masks when they are here (and that happeens in real life too), but, those who just try to presene thier best face, but are still being themselves, will usually open up and show their true self once a relationship gets more serious, again, just like in real life.

I think it's an illusion that you get to know someone better online. You might get to know aspects of someone faster online and with fewer filters getting in the way. It's certainly easier to accept someone for their mind and spirit without appearance or other physical factors coming into play and potentially stopping a good relationship in its tracks. Still, an online relationship has real limitations that are critical to developing a complete love.

For example, until you know how a person reacts in real time to real problems, you just don't know who they are. No matter how much time you spend chatting in a messenger app you just won't know everything that's important to know about that person. How we handle adversity is a crucial measure of our character.

Others can no doubt point out other limitations to online relationships, but this is one that comes to mind right now.

 

[Falkieri]

i love unicorns....i need to get myself one ..you know i love horses where have you been hiding???

I haven't been hiding at all........

hmmmmm.....need a Unicorn do you......well, I'm prety low maintenance.......

 

[midwestyankee]

What??? any one have a MWY translator around?????

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl DLL, I've found that if you remove every other word and read his sentences backward they all say "Paul is dead, Paul is dead"

Funny, Falkieri didn't have any trouble.

Actually, GG, if you separate out all the vowels that are not included in the word "facetious," you'll find that it all makes perfect sense.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Screech
You know, they are half way to proving that Unicorns existed - they were mentioned in the bible, apparently!

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Falkieri
I haven't been hiding at all........

hmmmmm.....need a Unicorn do you......well, I'm prety low maintenance.......

 

[midwestyankee]

wow thats cool i always remembered hearing noah couldnt catch any ...

Noah was horny enough on his own.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread discussion.

What does everyone think of the concept that jealousy is not a feature of love, but rather a sign of emotional poverty? It's not my concept, but one I heard recently and found intriguing.

 

[jussforfun]

Noah was horny enough on his own.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread discussion.

What does everyone think of the concept that jealousy is not a feature of love, but rather a sign of emotional poverty? It's not my concept, but one I heard recently and found intriguing.

Our envy of others devours us most of all

 

[Falkieri]

I think it's an illusion that you get to know someone better online. You might get to know aspects of someone faster online and with fewer filters getting in the way. It's certainly easier to accept someone for their mind and spirit without appearance or other physical factors coming into play and potentially stopping a good relationship in its tracks. Still, an online relationship has real limitations that are critical to developing a complete love.

For example, until you know how a person reacts in real time to real problems, you just don't know who they are. No matter how much time you spend chatting in a messenger app you just won't know everything that's important to know about that person. How we handle adversity is a crucial measure of our character.

Others can no doubt point out other limitations to online relationships, but this is one that comes to mind right now.

However, in the real life world of dating, you also do not leearn thesee things. Most of what you don't learn in online chat, you never learn about a person until you are with them every day. By then, you've already fallen in love.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Sorry, MWY, but I am going to backtrack a bit here...

As to the online relationship. I do believe that you can love someone you have never met in person. I do -not- believe that being in love is possible until you have spent a lot of time with them. Now....Having said that. I am part of a trinity that has never met. I haven't met the other two. We talk every day. They tell me everything about their day and vice versa. BUT...I have told them (and they have agreed) that there are no guarantees until we spend time together to find out whether everything works out. Not just the physical, either.

Now...I have very few doubts at this point, but we have been involved for...about 6 months for two of us and three for the third...

To me...this allows for a greater relationship. I know their children...I know them.

But I still haven't made any promises except to be open to the relationship and loving regardless of whether the in love part is there or not.

 

[redrider4u]

Sorry, MWY, but I am going to backtrack a bit here...

As to the online relationship. I do believe that you can love someone you have never met in person. I do -not- believe that being in love is possible until you have spent a lot of time with them. Now....Having said that. I am part of a trinity that has never met. I haven't met the other two. We talk every day. They tell me everything about their day and vice versa. BUT...I have told them (and they have agreed) that there are no guarantees until we spend time together to find out whether everything works out. Not just the physical, either.

Now...I have very few doubts at this point, but we have been involved for...about 6 months for two of us and three for the third...

To me...this allows for a greater relationship. I know their children...I know them.

But I still haven't made any promises except to be open to the relationship and loving regardless of whether the in love part is there or not.

I find this extremely interesting.........I'm nosy, and , this is lit. The discussion of love having never met...........I just do not know. I was in this situation some time ago......Well, even more challenging for you.........two lovers........smiling........only the best for you...........red

 

[Shoshisexy]

Thanks, red! *huggles*

I have great hopes and dreams. I believe that it will be a lot of hard work, especially as it is not what is "generally" accepted, but...I think it is going to work out. We shall see.

 

[midwestyankee]

This has been quite a day of posts in this thread, with a number of intriguing and compelling points made.

I will ride off into the sunset (for today only) knowing that the thread has once again sparked some lively discussion among very smart people. I am honored to be in your presence and to host your thoughts.

 

[wicked woman]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
But consider yankee, that perhaps the heart that has suffered so may choose not to be rebuilt and, instead, would prefer to remain safely cloistered for all time.

Is there a rule that says one cannot be happy with having the experience of one true love, even it if was not ever-enduring?

*to back track a bit*

Hey GG really good to see you...been a while.


Don't believe there is one rule that fits all, so won't comment on your question. I will say I tried what you suggested...for many many years after I divorced...and appeared to be fairly successful at it. But the time came when I finally realized it was a defense mechanism against having been hurt very badly...and a poor one at that, cause it kept me from dealing with the pain. Took a lot of work to finally get to the point where I thought the benefit of a loving relationship was greater than the risk of being hurt again. Only then was I prepared to take a chance on love again.

 

[midwestyankee]

*to back track a bit*

Hey GG really good to see you...been a while.


Don't believe there is one rule that fits all, so won't comment on your question. I will say I tried what you suggested...for many many years after I divorced...and appeared to be fairly successful at it. But the time came when I finally realized it was a defense mechanism against having been hurt very badly...and a poor one at that, cause it kept me from dealing with the pain. Took a lot of work to finally get to the point where I thought the benefit of a loving relationship was greater than the risk of being hurt again. Only then was I prepared to take a chance on love again.

Courageously said, WW. Thanks once again for brightening the thread and offering your lucid thoughts.

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

Finding love "blindly" over the Internet

Yea, finding love "blindly" over the Internet ...

I believe, as Shoshana and others have shared here, it IS possible to establish a "blind" relationship that CAN lead to the "true love" one seeks - what ever that person's definition of "true love" may be. Of course, for me and I suspect for most others, there is no substitute for that moment when each trusts to share in a gaze of wonder into the intimacy of one another's eyes, sharing this moment when each dares to look past their mere perceptions of the name and face and body of the person before them.

I claim I have come to love three women who I know only through written word shared over the Internet. Ah ... but here's where that mere word "love" in our language fails us once again. Yes, for each, and I admit it here, when we first "met" I privately indulged my shameless erotic imaginations over them. But for each of these three women, my love for them is manifested in how I honor the sacred gift of trusted friendship and how I cherish the soul of the woman behind the "name" and AV, and will cherish it without end.

And because it is stirring deeply in my heart at this very moment, and hoping you'll indulge my words ...
That one of these women, my literary erotica mentor, who I "met" more than two years ago, just earlier this week offered me photos of her. I was moved to tears to see her for the first time. Yes, in that moment a certain level of mystique was stripped away. And I was startled to see how her recent illness had left her body so frail. But these recent photos of her, from touching to erotic to downright "naughty," gave me a further glimpse beyond her body and into the depth of her courage. And in that moment, a better appreciation of her beauty, passion, and strength. Yes, I love this woman - grateful for our relationship that can be trusted to share even the most private thought or feeling. Yes, any. And I cherish her without end.

To your passion and all your ways of loving,

Sky