Defining Love

[SouthSkyEyes]

Sky...if you would do me the GREAT favor of transferring my post in Exhibition to here I would greatly appreciate it. I do believe it belongs here as well as there. *hugs to all*

Shoshana, it's my honor to transfer your post here as you ask.
Hope your recovery is quick my friend,

Sky

Originally posted by Shoshisexy

You [Damsel] and Swain make me feel more than anyone ever has in my entire life. You make me feel more cherished, loved, cared about, worried about, thought about, terrified, hopeful...and more, than I have in all my days.

I have concerns and fears that we are all aware of...but...the two of you are so accepting of my poor soul. Of my inexperience, my inability to promise something I am unsure of...of everything about me. We all know that living as a household is going to be difficult. With the two of you beside me, though...I think we will be able to handle anything. No matter what others say about our living arrangements, we will be happy.

Y'all are even putting up with my overprotective and somewhat irrational parents...and it is all out of love for me. The two of you could move away from where you are and live very happily with just the two of you and the children. Instead..you have welcomed me into your hearts to the extent that even the children know who I am and how important I am to the two of you.

To know that the two of you love me that much is more than I have ever hoped for.

Y'all know a bit about my past...what you do not know is that there were several years growing up that I truly believed in my heart of hearts that not only was I unlovable...but I was completely and utterly unwanted and unloved.

From the day I started truly talking with Swain, he made me feel as if I was important to him. Then you entered the picture while Swain and I were...trying to be just friends. You made me happy for Swain as I knew he needed someone. But he and I kept talking and you and I even talked a bit. And then the situation happened and everything changed between you and Swain...just when he and I were talking about getting back together and him working on coming out here.

But you lost a precious thing and this became your interface with the world. Somehow you knew that I would be able to talk with you, no matter how much you threatened my position with Swain. You and I began talking...about impossible things in my mind. But every day you and I talked more and became closer, even as Swain and I did.

Now, I cannot imagine living without the both of you in my life.

I hope everyone takes this post as it was meant...as...a baring of the soul that could and should be shared.

We all think that we live in our own little worlds. Many people think the people here are not "real" in a sense...We may play roles and we may play certain games here...but the rules are established ahead of time and the boundaries drawn. Sometimes I feel as though this is more honest than "real" life, where people are purposely vague and play games without allowing you to know the rules or changing them constantly.

Here I was able to know people's souls before I ever knew their names. (Here meaning the internet) I know that there are just as many deceivers here as in the "real" world. I just seem to be able to spot them better here.

Thanks to all who make it this far in this post.

Damsel and Swain...I cannot thank you enough for gifting me with the other parts of my soul....

 

[midwestyankee]

Shoshana, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us here.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Welcome, MWY...You know me...I never know when to shut up.

I hope that others look at my post as the purely hopeful thing that it is...that risk is worth it if the hope is strong enough.

 

[midwestyankee]

Welcome, MWY...You know me...I never know when to shut up.

I hope that others look at my post as the purely hopeful thing that it is...that risk is worth it if the hope is strong enough.

Indeed. Risk is a necessary element of love. For without the willingness to risk our souls in the hands of our beloved we would have nothing.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
Indeed. Risk is a necessary element of love. For without the willingness to risk our souls in the hands of our beloved we would have nothing.

 

[midwestyankee]

I perfer to bet on a sure thing....

A question for you, DLL, then. How do you know it's a sure thing until you have taken the risk of allowing a potential beloved to know you deeply? And how do you know it's a sure thing if your potential beloved has not opened himself to you so that you can know him intimately?

It seems to me that baring one's soul takes a certain degree of courage for there is always the risk that we will be hurt when the person we think we might love looks at us closely and decides we are not what he wants.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
A question for you, DLL, then. How do you know it's a sure thing until you have taken the risk of allowing a potential beloved to know you deeply? And how do you know it's a sure thing if your potential beloved has not opened himself to you so that you can know him intimately?

It seems to me that baring one's soul takes a certain degree of courage for there is always the risk that we will be hurt when the person we think we might love looks at us closely and decides we are not what he wants.

 

[midwestyankee]

thats true.. i suppose...but u just know when it connects ..thats what i meant..

Sometimes. Sometimes the connection gets stronger and a relationship develops. And sometimes the connection corrodes and signals just don't pass across it as well as they once did.

That is also part of the risk.

 

[DLL]

 

[midwestyankee]

sometimes the person just hangs up.... ...when things are right it shouldnt be work it just flows....and both people know when it is a sure thing...and thats what i bank on

Then, chances are, you are banking wisely. When you know, you know.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by midwestyankee
Then, chances are, you are banking wisely. When you know, you know.

 

[midwestyankee]

exactly....now you understand where i am coming from..wasn't that easy?

I may have misunderstood how you were using the phrase "sure thing," but it seems clearer to me now. I'm one of those analytical types who could debate the meaning of "is" at the drop of a hat - or a lady's handkerchief to toss in a romantic metaphor. So it's not uncommon for me to get tripped up this way.

Thanks for adding to the discussion.

 

[Screech]

Hmmm. Love. What does it mean? For me, Love is when you constantly think about a person and are concerned about their well-being.

Also, Love and Sex are not the same thing. In my view, sex can result from a loving relationship, but said relationship cannot come from sex.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by Screech
Hmmm. Love. What does it mean? For me, Love is when you constantly think about a person and are concerned about their well-being.

Also, Love and Sex are not the same thing. In my view, sex can result from a loving relationship, but said relationship cannot come from sex.

 

[Screech]

really????

hi screech!!!!!

Truly, yes. Of course, I am normally quite a restrained chap and, as far as I know, never truly experienced love. Lust, yes...

And how you doin' DLL?

 

[GiveawayGirl]

sometimes the person just hangs up.... ...when things are right it shouldnt be work it just flows....and both people know when it is a sure thing...and thats what i bank on

and sometimes you take that chance because you do just connect, and it flows........until you get pushed over the falls in a barrel, you hit the bottom hard, crash, and are broken beyond repair.

I don't think there really is a sure thing that's bankable.



Hi DLL, it's been a long time since we've crossed paths

*edited due to poor punctuation which yankee will undoubtedly catch*

 

[midwestyankee]

and sometimes you take that chance because you do just connect, and it flows........until you get pushed over the falls in a barrel, you hit the bottom hard, crash and are broken beyond repair.

I don't think there really is a sure thing that's bankable.



Hi DLL, it's been a long time since we've crossed paths

GG, it's been a while since you graced this thread too. Good to see you here.

That's one powerful image you put up for us to consider.

I would hope that anyone who ever makes that trip over the falls soon finds someone with the patience and fortitude to help rebuild the heart that suffered all that damage.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

GG, it's been a while since you graced this thread too. Good to see you here.

That's one powerful image you put up for us to consider.

I would hope that anyone who ever makes that trip over the falls soon finds someone with the patience and fortitude to help rebuild the heart that suffered all that damage.

But consider yankee, that perhaps the heart that has suffered so may choose not to be rebuilt and, instead, would prefer to remain safely cloistered for all time.

Is there a rule that says one cannot be happy with having the experience of one true love, even it if was not ever-enduring?

 

[midwestyankee]

But consider yankee, that perhaps the heart that has suffered so may choose not to be rebuilt and, instead, would prefer to remain safely cloistered for all time.

Is there a rule that says one cannot be happy with having the experience of one true love, even it if was not ever-enduring?

I have had to consider this very situation, and had to move on from someone who had made that decision.

There is no such rule. In fact, such things have sustained some people quite satisfactorily their whole lives.

And I am also not a subscriber to the belief that a true love is, by definition, ever-enduring. Sometimes a true loves flies a short parabola of its own making and yet it is still a wondrous flight.

 

[DLL]

Originally posted by GiveawayGirl
and sometimes you take that chance because you do just connect, and it flows........until you get pushed over the falls in a barrel, you hit the bottom hard, crash, and are broken beyond repair.

I don't think there really is a sure thing that's bankable.



Hi DLL, it's been a long time since we've crossed paths

*edited due to poor punctuation which yankee will undoubtedly catch*

 

[midwestyankee]

*edited due to poor punctuation which yankee will undoubtedly catch*

I use no red pens in this thread. It isn't in keeping with the theme of the place.

Here we prefer to honor contributions for what they say and ignore how they are said.

to you, GG, for joining back in.

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

and sometimes you take that chance because you do just connect, and it flows........until you get pushed over the falls in a barrel, you hit the bottom hard, crash and are broken beyond repair.

I don't think there really is a sure thing that's bankable.

Yes.

In reading the above posts I can't help but think perhaps all of us here know there's really never a "sure thing."

But we can reach that point where we're willing to risk deep heartbreak in believing in the relationship and do more than just hope to make it work.

Sky

 

[Screech]

Y'know, I have a feeling that many people out there get Love and Lust confused. Not saying anyone here has, but it might be something to keep in mind if conversation turns to love at first sight...

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I have had to consider this very situation, and had to move on from someone who had made that decision.

There is no such rule. In fact, such things have sustained some people quite satisfactorily their whole lives.

And I am also not a subscriber to the belief that a true love is, by definition, ever-enduring. Sometimes a true loves flies a short parabola of its own making and yet it is still a wondrous flight.

I don't think anyone loves another in the same way, therefore, it would follow to assume that what might be ever-enduring for one, may be but a brief speck of time for another.

I will agree with your last comments. To never have had the experience of loving someone completely to the depth and breadth of my soul would make me less of a complete person.

At the same time, I have no desire to repeat, replace, or replicate the experience in any way, shape, or form. I am perfectly content to carry those feelings of complete joy and happiness with me without reliving them. Once was enough for this girl.

 

[GiveawayGirl]

I believe people make their own "sure things" in life....How are you GG?...and dont worry about punctuation i am queen of typos and bad grammer...it was nice seeing you again

I wish I could believe this...but how can anyone ever be really sure?

I am well, thanks. How have you been?