Defining Love

[midwestyankee]

wel all right now love is not all iot is cracked up to be

Oh?

Tell us more, please. This is intriguing.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Love is tough. The two people that I love most are 1500 miles away right now. I have other loves in my life, but none as important as they. I have to get through each day knowing they are together while I am here and alone. Tough...but survivable knowing that they think of me all the time and love me with a passion I have never known.

 

[redrider4u]

Love

is about absorbing the faults of your lover. I mean, that works to a degree. What truly is despairing is the erosion of trust. To me, that is devastating.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Trust is integral to love...but it doesn't always have to erode...

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

Re: Love

...
What truly is despairing is the erosion of trust. To me, that is devastating.

Thank you.

How clearly and powerfully put ... yes, feeling trust eroding.

And, for me, being with the sense your partner may be feeling the same, but griped with fear over the tragic loss that surely will be experienced if you discover that indeed trust has already begun departing for ever.

It took me well over a week to gather the courage to speak to her about this. But I do know what my heart spoke at that very moment ...

Hold my hands lover, I'm scared. Hold them tightly as I dare to let you see into my eyes and to look into yours. I'm griped by fear to tell you I feel that my trust in our relationship is fading.

And I'm trembling thinking you might feel the same way. I don't want to loose all that I cherish and my heart tells me you don't want this either.

But for now, just hug me in silence so I can feel the warmth of our hearts together. In a while, after my fear begins to melt away in the arms of my dear trusted friend, then I'll feel the courage to speak with you about these things.


Redrider4u, thanks again,

Sky

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: Love

Love is about absorbing the faults of your lover. I mean, that works to a degree. What truly is despairing is the erosion of trust. To me, that is devastating.

Trust is integral to love...but it doesn't always have to erode...

These statements are both very powerful in their brevity. Nearly the yin and yang of one essential element of love within the space of two posts.

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: Re: Love

Thank you.

How clearly and powerfully put ... yes, feeling trust eroding.

And, for me, being with the sense your partner may be feeling the same, but griped with fear over the tragic loss that surely will be experienced if you discover that indeed trust has already begun departing for ever.

It took me well over a week to gather the courage to speak to her about this. But I do know what my heart spoke at that very moment ...

Hold my hands lover, I'm scared. Hold them tightly as I dare to let you see into my eyes and to look into yours. I'm griped by fear to tell you I feel that my trust in our relationship is fading.

And I'm trembling thinking you might feel the same way. I don't want to loose all that I cherish and my heart tells me you don't want this either.

But for now, just hug me in silence so I can feel the warmth of our hearts together. In a while, after my fear begins to melt away in the arms of my dear trusted friend, then I'll feel the courage to speak with you about these things.


Redrider4u, thanks again,

Sky

This is a portrait in courage. Thanks, Sky, for sharing it with us.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Sky, hun...I can see you doing this. You have great courage and great love. You and Lady A are very lucky and I am very envious.

The trinity hopes to have the same.

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

Sky, hun...I can see you doing this. You have great courage and great love. You and Lady A are very lucky and I am very envious.

The trinity hopes to have the same.

Shoshana

My dear friend, thank you. And if I may ...

I have had the opportunity though gift of friendship to witness your deep courage including your courage to risk loving and be loved. And while I've had less opportunity to get to know your beloved I believe they too are persons of great courage and compassion.

Time will provide you, together with your beloved, the opportunity to build the container of your shared relationship. Through conscious effort, each will have opportunity to mind the relationship, patching it and mending it as it reforms and enlarges over time.

The beauty and strength of your shared container will come forth, in its own forms, and ways. Yes, beautiful even with all its imperfections, scratches, and those everpresent cracks. This ever changing container will be for you to cherish as you would one another. The measure of this container at any moment is the capacity of the love you can share together.

And when gathering together to honor your relationship, each of you can pour a free measure of your hearts fullness into your container. Drawing from it if any of you are in need and each remaining evermindful it will tragically leak dry if left unattended.

And through loving mindful attention, over time, you will have the blessing of gifting others. Witnessing how others depart warmed by the love you choose to share with your beloved, touched by the love that flows out beyond the capacity of the container of your relationship.

My friend, that you would always dare to risk claiming your hearts measure for love,


Sky

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

Just so you would know

Wanting to assure everyone here ...

I must claim a bit of concern here that you just might think all my postings will be "heavy" - I don't know how else to put it.

I DO very much look forward to sharing here with you in short heart felt and joyful messages.

So know I'm letting that mytho-poetic in me a take a break.

Just so you know,

Sky

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: Just so you would know

Wanting to assure everyone here ...

I must claim a bit of concern here that you just might think all my postings will be "heavy" - I don't know how else to put it.

I DO very much look forward to sharing here with you in short heart felt and joyful messages.

So know I'm letting that mytho-poetic in me a take a break.

Just so you know,

Sky

That you take the time to add your thoughts to the discussion is what matters most of all. I doubt if any of the regular readers and contributors here will find your posts to be too "heavy" in any way.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. I, for one, enjoy them very much.

mwy

 

[Shoshisexy]

Sky,

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with us. You know I adore you and you have been a great friend to me.

As for the love we share...it is only magnified by each day that goes by, separated or not.

I do not expect this to be easy in any way, though. There are things about the situation that are going to be difficult enough without throwing in my parents disapproval of my beloveds. They will be a bit shocked when I up and move with them. *sighs* But sometimes...other loves are worth risking for. I love my mother and Stepfather more than I can express...but I also love Swain and Damsel. One of these loves is going to have to take precedence. It is going to be hard for me and I hope they come around, but...Each day is new and we learn new things.

 

[midwestyankee]

I do not expect this to be easy in any way, though. There are things about the situation that are going to be difficult enough without throwing in my parents disapproval of my beloveds. They will be a bit shocked when I up and move with them. *sighs* But sometimes...other loves are worth risking for. I love my mother and Stepfather more than I can express...but I also love Swain and Damsel. One of these loves is going to have to take precedence. It is going to be hard for me and I hope they come around, but...Each day is new and we learn new things.

Sometimes part of what makes something worthwhile is that it is not easily achievable.

Without risk, there is little to be gained in this life.

If each day we all learned new things, this would be a better world for all the growth we would show and the benefits we would receive from each other.

 

[Swain]

Sometimes part of what makes something worthwhile is that it is not easily achievable.

Without risk, there is little to be gained in this life.

If each day we all learned new things, this would be a better world for all the growth we would show and the benefits we would receive from each other.

Amen to that Midwest.........

 

[Shoshisexy]

*hugs Swain* Hello, Beloved!

Love isn't easy...but the risks are worth it if you find the right person/people.

 

[redrider4u]

*hugs Swain* Hello, Beloved!

Love isn't easy...but the risks are worth it if you find the right person/people.

Correct, but finding those is torturous.

 

[Shoshisexy]

Considering what Swain, Damsel, and I have been through in our lives...I would have to agree...

But when you finally mesh souls with the person/people you love....there is no comparison.

 

[redrider4u]

Considering what Swain, Damsel, and I have been through in our lives...I would have to agree...

But when you finally mesh souls with the person/people you love....there is no comparison.

I am not familiar with your situation............so I cannot comment intelligently.

It is so easy to use the terms, soul mate, lover, soul lovers........

 

[Shoshisexy]

You would have to read our thread...It is at the bottom of my sig.

But...Forewarning...it is a bit graphic on sexual violence at times with true stories.

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

it is only magnified by each day that goes by

Seeing again these words from Shoshana's post leaves me thinking about a piece from Rumi.

The lovers food is the love of bread, not the bread.

Sky

 

[Swain]

Re: it is only magnified by each day that goes by

Seeing again these words from Shoshana's post leaves me thinking about a piece from Rumi.

The lovers food is the love of bread, not the bread.

Sky

I am with Sky on that one.......

 

[midwestyankee]

Re: it is only magnified by each day that goes by

The lovers food is the love of bread, not the bread.

Sky

Love can nourish us, and often does.

But overfilling on love can be a disastrous diet also. Especially when the "love" is not really love but actions taken to satisfy the ego in the name of love.

 

[SouthSkyEyes]

Re: Re: it is only magnified by each day that goes by

Love can nourish us, and often does.

But overfilling on love can be a disastrous diet also. Especially when the "love" is not really love but actions taken to satisfy the ego in the name of love.

MWY ...

How true.

Did I love my wife-to-be at first sight? No, I can't say this. I loved the surge I felt first meeting her, and being with her as we discovered each other (and were being "bunnies," as she puts it) - all stirring the tender AND the raw visceral parts of me.

Our friendship followed the indugence of lust upon our first meeting. Can't say I'd recommend this course. Today, I'd literally give up our sexual sharing before I'd give up our passionate and tender friendship.

Sky

 

[Shoshisexy]

Just popping in to tell you all that I am ill and may not be on for a little bit.

Sky...if you would do me the GREAT favor of transferring my post in Exhibition to here I would greatly appreciate it. I do believe it belongs here as well as there. *hugs to all*

 

[midwestyankee]

Just popping in to tell you all that I am ill and may not be on for a little bit.

Sky...if you would do me the GREAT favor of transferring my post in Exhibition to here I would greatly appreciate it. I do believe it belongs here as well as there. *hugs to all*

We'll be thinking of you.

Rest, get well, return. Please.