Defining Love

Originally posted by midwestyankee
All joking aside, you're quite right, Liza. Complete honesty is not only rare, it can be difficult to receive.

A happy Monday to all DL readers. Enjoy!

Happy Monday to you too MWY..amd I mean that ...Honestly:p




:kiss: 's you good morning
 
Honesty is difficult.

People are going to tell you things you don't want to hear, but...in the long run, the health and wellbeing of the people in the relationship and the relationship itself are at stake. Lying puts disease and rot into a relationship that must then be excised and cauterized, causeing more pain and a longer time to heal.
 
Shoshisexy said:
Honesty is difficult.

People are going to tell you things you don't want to hear, but...in the long run, the health and wellbeing of the people in the relationship and the relationship itself are at stake. Lying puts disease and rot into a relationship that must then be excised and cauterized, causeing more pain and a longer time to heal.
Bluntly put - but necessarily so.

As always, thanks for the heartelt contribution to this ongoing discussion. :rose:
 
midwestyankee said:
All joking aside, you're quite right, Liza. Complete honesty is not only rare, it can be difficult to receive.

A happy Monday to all DL readers. Enjoy!

This was stated because my honesty has offended a few right here even on Lit... ~sigh~

I agree with Shoshi.... better to be honest from the getgo!! I'd rather be hurt with the truth than a lie!!!

:kiss: :kiss: Yankee :kiss: :kiss:
 
TantaLiza said:
This was stated because my honesty has offended a few right here even on Lit... ~sigh~

I agree with Shoshi.... better to be honest from the getgo!! I'd rather be hurt with the truth than a lie!!!

:kiss: :kiss: Yankee :kiss: :kiss:
It's a shame that this explanation was needed. I fully agree with you: the truth, while it might sting, hurts less than the long-term impact of a string of lies.

:rose: to you, Liza.
 
This is a true story that happened in Japan.

In order to renovate the house, someone in Japan tore open the
wall. Japanese houses normally have a hollow space between the
wooden walls. When tearing down the walls, he found that there was
a lizard stuck there because a nail from outside was hammered
into one of its feet. He saw this, felt pity, and at the same time
he was curious. When he checked the nail, turns out, it was nailed
10 years ago when the house was first built.

What happened?

The lizard had survived in such a position for 10 years! In a dark
wall partition for 10 years without moving, it is impossible and
mind boggling. Then he wondered how this lizard survived for 10
years without moving a single step--since its foot was nailed!

So he stopped his work and observed the lizard, what it had been
doing, and what and how it has been eating. Later, not knowing
from where it came, appeared another lizard, with food in its
mouth.

Ahh! He was stunned and at the same time, touched deeply. Another
lizard had been feeding the stuck one for the past 10 years...

Such love, such a beautiful love! Such love happened with this
tiny creature...

What can love do?

It can do wonders!

Love can do miracles!

Just think about it; one lizard had been feeding the other one
untiringly for 10 long years, without giving up hope on its
partner.

If a small creature like a lizard can love like this... just
imagine how we can love if we try.
 
midwestyankee said:
It's a shame that this explanation was needed. I fully agree with you: the truth, while it might sting, hurts less than the long-term impact of a string of lies.

:rose: to you, Liza.

:kiss: Yankee :kiss:


Oman... beautiful story!! :kiss:
 
Originally posted by omahaman2
This is a true story that happened in Japan.

In order to renovate the house, someone in Japan tore open the
wall. Japanese houses normally have a hollow space between the
wooden walls. When tearing down the walls, he found that there was
a lizard stuck there because a nail from outside was hammered
into one of its feet. He saw this, felt pity, and at the same time
he was curious. When he checked the nail, turns out, it was nailed
10 years ago when the house was first built.

What happened?

The lizard had survived in such a position for 10 years! In a dark
wall partition for 10 years without moving, it is impossible and
mind boggling. Then he wondered how this lizard survived for 10
years without moving a single step--since its foot was nailed!

So he stopped his work and observed the lizard, what it had been
doing, and what and how it has been eating. Later, not knowing
from where it came, appeared another lizard, with food in its
mouth.

Ahh! He was stunned and at the same time, touched deeply. Another
lizard had been feeding the stuck one for the past 10 years...

Such love, such a beautiful love! Such love happened with this
tiny creature...

What can love do?

It can do wonders!

Love can do miracles!

Just think about it; one lizard had been feeding the other one
untiringly for 10 long years, without giving up hope on its
partner.

If a small creature like a lizard can love like this... just
imagine how we can love if we try.


Jesus Christ I can't get my husband to hand me the remote when its on his side of the bed...LOL:p
 
DLL said:
Jesus Christ I can't get my husband to hand me the remote when its on his side of the bed...LOL:p

next time ask him to hand you the vibrator......then check out the response......
 
DLL said:
Jesus Christ I can't get my husband to hand me the remote when its on his side of the bed...LOL:p

I'm the only one in my bed... for years now!!

(Don't have a tv in my room either! lol)
 
TantaLiza said:
I'm the only one in my bed... for years now!!

(Don't have a tv in my room either! lol)
This will change. And you won't have to get a foot nailed to the floor, either. :rose:
 
DLL said:
Jesus Christ I can't get my husband to hand me the remote when its on his side of the bed...LOL:p
Perhaps this is his loving way of suggesting you could both use some more exercise? Maybe even some pair aerobics? ;)
 
Originally posted by midwestyankee
Perhaps this is his loving way of suggesting you could both use some more exercise? Maybe even some pair aerobics? ;)


LOL...maybe....how many calories do you lose making love anyway....more than clicking the TV remote???:p
 
DLL said:
LOL...maybe....how many calories do you lose making love anyway....more than clicking the TV remote???:p

You have to be pretty darn quiet to use fewer calories than clicking a remote. :D
 
Hi MWY..... nice thread.....wanted to say hello!!

Love: the meaning of life here!
:heart:

Cate
:rose:
 
Cathleen said:
Hi MWY..... nice thread.....wanted to say hello!!

Love: the meaning of life here!
:heart:

Cate
:rose:
Thanks, Cate. I hope you'll take some time at some point to read a few of the earlier pages. Many people have had some very profound things to say here. It's a good read for anyone interested in the subject. And who isn't, or shouldn't be?
 
Good morning all. As for love...today it is a great thing indeeed! My Beloveds are as well as can be expected and happy and so am I. Health and happiness!!!!!
 
Shoshisexy said:
Good morning all. As for love...today it is a great thing indeeed! My Beloveds are as well as can be expected and happy and so am I. Health and happiness!!!!!

:rose: upon :rose: to you this morning, Shoshana. Thanks for letting us know.
 
After having thought about love, I have a few thoughts to throw out to everyone.

Love is energy, its not material. It is a feeling, it is not of the physical world. But it can be expressed; through kindness, giving, compassion, joy, acceptance, joining together and intimacy. I think love is within us and can not be destroyed. It can be hidden and I think that is fear. I can't seem to separate the two feelings of love and fear. (As if Heaven and Hell can't be separated, but that a topic for a different time!) I think fear is the destroyer of love in our lives. Love exsists whether we feel it or not, as it is energy. Matter can neither be created or destroyed kind of idea.

Love is complex to say the least. The places I know love exsists are hard to define. It really is in the actions and behaviors. And if I lack the ability to love then I am in fear of love. I think so much emphasis is placed upon "romantic love" being the key to be happy, to complete ourselves, to be right with the world. This leads to the breakdown of love, for if you are seeking something outside yourself to make you whole or right, and that is then taken from you, then love is taken from you. Build the love on a rock not the sand...as in the Bible. Strength is within us all, at all times, but I know I do not harnest that strength at all times; the fear again. Just is the same with love, we were born with love, not taugh it, but if we don't harnest that love in our actions, then we are doing a disservice to ourselves and fellow men.

I can not also separate love from God. That maybe a touchy subject with many, but I believe in God/Higher Power/Spirit, and it is from Him that love is created. It is from us that love is destroyed or unused or illused. Love will not make the world perfect but it can make things right or better. I find it a challenge to keep my love in the forground of my actions. I suppose that is the human condition. Human will. I try always to behave in love first. A jesture, a kindness, a helping hand , all help me to stay within this love.

That is an attempt, albeit not crafted well or complete, at what love is to me.

Cate
:rose:
 
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Cathleen, thank you so very much for this thoughtful and challenging post.

I very much like the idea that love is a form of energy and thus can not be created nor destroyed. If lost, it is not destroyed, but takes another form perhaps. Very intriguing. :rose:
 
midwestyankee said:
Cathleen, thank you so very much for this thoughtful and challenging post.

I very much like the idea that love is a form of energy and thus can not be created nor destroyed. If lost, it is not destroyed, but takes another form perhaps. Very intriguing. :rose:

You're welcome...... its a first attempt to trying to look at love. However, I'm not sure if love takes another form so much as it is not expressed. I think love stays love, its up to us to express it and to use love as our catalyst with each actions.

But you know.... I could be nuts!!!:D

Thanks....:rose:
 
There are no guarantees in Life or Love, But if you're right for each other,You need to relax and trust that things will work out. :kiss:

my words of wisdom today:rose:
 
DLL said:
There are no guarantees in Life or Love, But if you're right for each other,You need to relax and trust that things will work out. :kiss:

my words of wisdom today:rose:
I have thought for a very long time that it would be possible for nearly any two people in the world to find that they were "right for each other" so long as they relax enough of their predilections, biases, fears, and anxieties. It may well be that when two people meet online the likelihood of being "right for each other" increases. This would be because the online experience removes so many of the signals we often give and receive about who we are and who we are meeting.

For example, if I had a bad experience with a redhead in the seventh grade and always stayed away from redheads after that, I might still fall madly for one I met online so long as I did not know her hair color initially. This is a trivial example but far more significant differences could easily be overcome with an all-electronic meeting.

Just my humble thoughts in response to your words of wisdom, DLL. :rose:
 
That all seems to easy to me. I am not sure I believe in fate or the idea of if it is meant to be it will happen. There are so many variables involved, not the least of which is will, to detour such a meeting. Would that these two people meet online, I think there is still so much not available, that "true" love is not as easy as it seems. Online meeting can be easy, as so many of lifes struggles do not have to become involved, but those struggles are real in each of their lives. I don't think I am being clear here. Something like it being so far removed from real life, the sharing of day to day events, no matter how small, factor greatly into forming a love relationship. Being able to see how each person interacts with our worlds is a big factor to me ~ knowing that our methods or behaviors are compatiable.

I'm going to stop, I'm confusing myself!! :rolleyes:
 
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