Deeply shallow question

In general, when I first see a woman, it's normally in a way where I can get a sense of the entire body. In most normal circumstances that's how we see people; their full body at once.
. . .

So there's no definitive answer on this for me really.
I opened a story like this:

It was the movement that first caught my eye.

That automatic sequence of movements done by muscle memory, repeatedly and without thinking, dexterous and complete - the red nail fingertips of her right hand, several silver rings on her fingers, flipping open the top of the box. One finger aligned the flipped up lid so the angle was right, then two fingers grasped the filter and pulled a cigarette out.

They could have been touching her clitoris, the movements so precise, the purpose so similarly exquisite.

I was three tables away with a direct line of sight.

My eyes followed her finger tips, focusing only on their movement, as she withdrew the cigarette from its silver-lined box. Red-lined would have been better, edges velvet smooth and seductive, smooth and warm with blood. Her left hand, her eyes elsewhere because she knew exactly where everything was - every item perfectly placed like a heroin fix - took the lighter, turned it around so her thumb was on the wheel. Her red tipped thumb ready to turn the flint.
And no, I don't smoke.
 
So, conscious I haven’t answered my own question. It’s obviously not an always thing. But I find shapely necks very irresistible. Particularly the nape. Obviously that is easiest to appreciate when she has her hair up, or in a ponytail or pigtails. Or if she is playing with her hair. I also find soft, wispy neck hair very attractive. If she turns round and her eyes are competing with her smile for which is the wider, then I might need to borrow @onehitwanda ’s spatula.

Em

PS I like an nice ass as well, who doesn’t?
 
So, conscious I haven’t answered my own question. It’s obviously not an always thing. But I find shapely necks very irresistible. Particularly the nape. Obviously that is easiest to appreciate when she has her hair up, or in a ponytail or pigtails. Or if she is playing with her hair. I also find soft, wispy neck hair very attractive. If she turns round and her eyes are competing with her smile for which is the wider, then I might need to borrow @onehitwanda ’s spatula.

Em

PS I like an nice ass as well, who doesn’t?
Relative to the previous few posts, one reason I liked Ep VII - IX was Rey’s hairstyle, or rather what it revealed.

“So, Daisy, I’d like to put my left hand here and my right hand here…”

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/2e/4e/1f2e4ec36876ee2eb9524182567d35d7.png

Em
 
Nah, you were being a dick. You straight up told someone her boyfriend was lying to her about his preferences, essentially based on your own. Like, I like women in leggings, but I'm looking at butts, not for cameltoe.

To go to the original question, I don't really have a set "order." It really depends on what they're emphasizing. If they have unnaturally colored or interestingly styled hair, my eyes will be drawn there. If they're wearing a tight shirt or tight legs, there. Am I seeing her from the front, the back? It's all very contextual. There are women whose eyes will be the first things to draw my attention; there will be others where I'll be fighting to not stare at their tits for the first few seconds.

Oh, and if they're muscular? The muscles, definitely. I love a fit woman's body.
That's your opinion. And your preference. I also wasn't being dick. I explained myself andni didn't have to. Nobody else is taking the side you are. You're just white knighting. Or did your feelings get hurt reading the post? It was sooo mean and toxic male. Hahahahaha
Save it for the girl. Try reading all the posts she wrote and what I replied with. You may still think I'm a dick but at least I don't think with my dick.
 
That's your opinion. And your preference. I also wasn't being dick. I explained myself andni didn't have to. Nobody else is taking the side you are. You're just white knighting. Or did your feelings get hurt reading the post? It was sooo mean and toxic male. Hahahahaha
Save it for the girl. Try reading all the posts she wrote and what I replied with. You may still think I'm a dick but at least I don't think with my dick.
LOL “white knighting.” I haven’t seen that shit alleged with a straight face since 4-Chan. Makes sense, given that you’re the kind of asshole to go with “I’m sorry you were offended (by me being asshole).” Scamper on home, troll.
 
LOL “white knighting.” I haven’t seen that shit alleged with a straight face since 4-Chan. Makes sense, given that you’re the kind of asshole to go with “I’m sorry you were offended (by me being asshole).” Scamper on home, troll.
Hahahaha if you are goiny to qoute me use the whole damn quote you cunt. Bewides you're the troll side butting into a thread and trying to be all mighty and manly when all you did was show your feelings got hurt for some girl who tried her best to shame me and couldn't because I did nothing wrong. So you should have kept your feelings to yourself unless you have overly sensitive mangina then I understand
 
Hey, could someone let dipshit know, if he responds, that he’s ignored? He’s not a writer, he’s a prick, and he adds nothing to the discussion. Life’s too fucking short to argue with assholes.
Sorry, hun. I attract them. Not sure what the fuck he’s doing on this forum as he seems to have nothing to contribute beyond bile.

Oh, well, I’ll view this as a warm-up for tomorrow and the BTB / angry Incel faction of LW 😊.

Em
 
Do these sort of disputes every end with, "I see now that I was wrong and apologize for this misunderstanding." Or does it just continue endlessly until someone calls someone a cunt, someone reports and gets the thread deleted?
 
Do these sort of disputes every end with, "I see now that I was wrong and apologize for this misunderstanding." Or does it just continue endlessly until someone calls someone a cunt, someone reports and gets the thread deleted?
I don’t buy this faults on both sides thing. If more women stood up to misogynistic assholes, there might be slightly fewer of them around.

Em
 
To go to the original question, I don't really have a set "order." It really depends on what they're emphasizing


Agreed; kinda said the same in my response.

Didn't even mention it depends on what they're wearing and what parts their outfit emphasizes.

Showing lots of cleavage? Probably looking there first.

Tight pants? Ass or cameltoe.

Belly shirt? Checking out the belly.

Etc etc.
 
Agreed; kinda said the same in my response.

Didn't even mention it depends on what they're wearing and what parts their outfit emphasizes.

Showing lots of cleavage? Probably looking there first?

Tight pants? Ass or cameltoe.

Belly shirt? Checking out the belly.

Etc etc.
Bondage gear? [fricking autocorrect]

Em
 
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One directed at anyone who wants to answer it. But it might be interesting to get the views of cis boys and girls, gay boys and girls, and bi boys and girls.

So, my boyfriend and I were at the rock gym at the weekend and had a fit of giggles when we realized we were both checking out the same girl. Which led to a discussion about the process.

Now I know not all cis guys are the same, but what he confided was that - especially in an environment where girls are often wearing leggings or shorts and contorting their bodies to climb - he often has his eyes drawn to asses first. Though he said sometimes hair as well. He then admitted that he checks out her face next. If it’s all good, then it depends on what she is doing and what she is wearing. He might look at her legs or breasts. Or he might look away feeling embarrassed.

Now it was interesting that - as a bi girl - I sort of went on different things (some the same of course). But, without immediately revealing what I do when I look at a girl, how about you? This can extend to checking out guys for cis / bi women and gay / bi guys if you like.

Em

PS I haven’t mentioned checking out guys as I don’t have a very visual approach to men, it’s different with women for me at least
I apparently got here late, but back to the original question.

Initially, I'm attracted to a women by two things.

1 - Does she look happy and comfortable with herself? I tend not to be interested in a woman walking around with a frown on her face or with her shoulders slumped forward. Both tell me she'd not pleased with how she looks. The same goes for things like an exaggerated walk that makes her hips sway a bunch. That tells me she's trying to make up for what she thinks she lacks. I also don't like most forms of piercings and a lot of visible tattoos are a turnoff for me. All that decoration is probably there to take my eyes off what she considers to not be good enough.

2 - Does it look like she cares about how she looks. She doesn't have to be gorgeous. She just should look like she did more than roll out of bed and say, "Come on clothes if you're going with me". Her clothes should fit, but she shouldn't look like a porn star or a hooker. I don't like lots of makeup, but enough to make her look like she took the time to look good is really nice.

Once I get past 1 and 2, then I'll look at her more closely. I do like large beasts, but I've never met a breast I didn't like. If she's walking away from me, I should be able to tell she's walking naturally by the way her hips move. Up and down or side to side doesn't matter much. Some women walk one way and others walk the other way.

There is a significant research about what attracts men to women, and most of it is the product of our evolution. When shown women's bodies without their faces and asked to pick the most attractive, most men will pick a women with larger breasts and wide hips. The evolutionary reason for that choice is pretty easy to understand. When 40 was probably considered to be "old age", men selected women who could bear and raise children to adulthood in order to proliferate their genes. Wide hips equated to the ability to carry a child to term and then deliver that child safely into the world. Larger breasts equated to the ability to feed that child until the child could eat solid food. In the not so distant past, that meant the woman would breast feed a child until the age of at least 2 and sometimes until the age of 3.
 
There is a significant research about what attracts men to women, and most of it is the product of our evolution. When shown women's bodies without their faces and asked to pick the most attractive, most men will pick a women with larger breasts and wide hips. The evolutionary reason for that choice is pretty easy to understand. When 40 was probably considered to be "old age", men selected women who could bear and raise children to adulthood in order to proliferate their genes. Wide hips equated to the ability to carry a child to term and then deliver that child safely into the world. Larger breasts equated to the ability to feed that child until the child could eat solid food. In the not so distant past, that meant the woman would breast feed a child until the age of at least 2 and sometimes until the age of 3.
I’m not denying male programming, but neither of those assumptions (about breasts and hips) is actually true.


Em
 
I’m not denying male programming, but neither of those assumptions (about breasts and hips) is actually true.


Em
Also as I understand it, extra fatty tissue in female breasts in humans, which is lacking in other mammals, evolved to simulate the appearance of a posterior, with nipples that redden with arousal fulfilling the visual role of an aroused vulva, and facial lips doing the same thing visually and symbolically, as we evolved to walk upright and mate face to face and generally spend a lot more time looking at each other's fronts. At least that's what I heard in my segment on ev psych.
 
Also as I understand it, extra fatty tissue in female breasts in humans, which is lacking in other mammals, evolved to simulate the appearance of a posterior, with nipples that redden with arousal fulfilling the visual role of an aroused vulva, and facial lips doing the same thing visually and symbolically, as we evolved to walk upright and mate face to face and generally spend a lot more time looking at each other's fronts. At least that's what I heard in my segment on ev psych.
Mating face to face, what kind of perv are you 🤭?


Em
 
So aside from all the drama....

I asked my neanderthal hubby the original question, though I thought I knew, and I was right..

"Ass, I look at her ass first, unless she is facing me, then I look at her tits"

I loved Em's comments about necks though!! Mmmmm, I am a nuzzler :rose:
 
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