Conclusions from the two Bush Polls.

Azwed

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Before I made these two polls i had an idea how they would go. I thought that the poll for job performance would be more positive then the poll for Bush as a person.

I got this idea from a very, very negative letter that was sent to our campus newspaper. The letter was probably the most negative bit of political trash I have ever read. I wish I could find a copy of it, but so far I have not been able to. The letter was in the newspaper several months ago and I don't have any newspapers from that long ago.

The letter concluded with the writer saying how he had an internship in the whitehouse with the most popular president in history.

Bush had a approval rating in the high 80's at the time of this letter. I took offense to the whole letter and thought it was full of crap but that last part was one of the worst. Bush had a very high job approval rating at the time, and still does, that is not the same as being a popular president.

These two polls tend to show that somewhat. The poll rating Bush's job is slanted in the positive direction.

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69.23 popular for job

30.27 for unpopular job
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I got those numbers by taking everything 'C' and above and adding it together. That becomes the popular part. Everything under that becomes the unpopular part.

You can see the graph of the poll here

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=63885

The numbers follow a normal curve for the most part except for the big spike at the 'A' range. I think that can be explained by current times. I mean everyone wants to approve of what the president does during "war time." We also have a pretty fair number of outspoken conservatives who would be more likely to give Bush an 'A' no matter what. There is one other reason that the A range could be spiked so much, but it is based purely on speculation and I have no way to prove it.

The poll for how you felt about Bush on a personal level was different.

You can see it here. Just by looking at the graph of the numbers it is obvious this poll is more negative.

http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=63887

Here is the totals for that poll
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52.63% for Unpopular Personal

42.1% for popular personal.

5.26% neutral personal
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These numbers look nothing like the Job Poll numbers. Assuming that the same people voted on both polls, like I told them to, then many of the people who gave Bush a 'C' or higher job grade had to have given him a below neutral personal grade. The difference between the popular Job rating and popular personal rating is about 26%. That is a fairly large margin about 10 votes in this particular poll.

Both these polls are of course no where near scientific but I do find them very interesting.
 
Sorry, I didn't bother with the personal pole. The only thing that mattered to me was the job he was doing so I skipped the second thread.

Want me to still vote? :)
 
Bah can't you follow instructions woman. I said vote on both polls. Grrrr.
 
Oh my i did not notice that. I would sure hope she did not want Bush's personal pole. Eeewhwwwww nasty.
 
Mischka said:
Freudian slip?

hehe... nope, one of my common spelling errors, actually. I type those two for each other all the time, but I swear I typed poll.

I plead the lateness of the hour and the longness of my day. :)
 
How can you draw any parallels between the two polls when you assigned letter grades to one, and your failed attempt at humor on the other?
 
You can't assign letter grades to someones personality. I mean that would just be stupid.

Someones personality should be about emotion. I tried to make those ratings bring forth an emotional response.

Maybe you are just upset that the two polls did not go the way you want?

They did not go exactly they way i thought they would either. I thought that the Job one would be a more normal curve. I figured there would be some spike on the A answer but not that much. I also thought that the personality one would be much more negative then it turned out to be.
 
Cheyenne said:
Sorry, I didn't bother with the personal pole. The only thing that mattered to me was the job he was doing so I skipped the second thread.

Want me to still vote? :)

Tsk...tsk

You've ruined all of Azwed's hard work now. Thrown out all the percentages...

Women!:D

Anyway Azwed it does make interesting reading even on a poll taken from such a small number of samples. It's true, that in times of an external threat people tend to rally around their leader.

Thanks...

:)
 
Since when is a grade of "C" acceptable? If you maintain a C+ average at a Georgia collage, you lose your Hope Scholarship. The way I read your poll, only 36% are happy with his job performance. Which falls right in line with the second poll if you throw out the 2 neutral votes. And that's about what I'd expect to find here.
 
Cheyenne said:
Sorry, I didn't bother with the personal pole. The only thing that mattered to me was the job he was doing so I skipped the second thread.

I find that interesting, seeing as before the Presidential election, you posted that a President's character was extremely important to you.

If you like, I'll find the threads. ;)
 
I had to think for a long time about where I would draw the cut off line for approving of his job performance. I eventualy went eith the C line because in almost every college you have to get a 2.0 GPA overall in order to graduate.

Is that arbitrary? Yup of course it is, but you always have to pick an arbitary line for something like this.

If I had organized it your way he would have done even more poorly on the job performance category. Organizing the poll like that would probably have brought it more in line to a Yes or No answer poll.

I didn't want to do that because I find it a lot harder to answer a Yes or No question about someones personality. Bush has done a lot of things I have liked and a lot of things I have disliked. That averaged to about a C for me.

I almost did the typical 1-7 answer range that is used for these kind of polls. In those polls 7 becomes the highest rating, 1 the lowest and 4 the neutral one. I did not think those kind of responses would work in a poll like this. I wanted an emotional response for the Personality poll and a clinical evaluation of the job poll.

I would love to see a poll like this done on a national level. The questions and available responses would have to be modified some of course, but still similar to these.
 
Laurel said:


I find that interesting, seeing as before the Presidential election, you posted that a President's character was extremely important to you.

If you like, I'll find the threads. ;)

It's about time! I smiled when I typed that, waiting to see if you'd respond! Damn you were slow to get to it though. :D

Character IS still important to me. Good character doesn't necessarily equate with like or dislike though. You can be a fine upstanding citizen and I can still hate your guts if I have a personal problem with you for some reason. There are also some people with what most people would say is not such great character in this world that I still like for some unknown reason. I don't understand it myself. Maybe it is that "bad boy" thing we talk about every so often here.

In other words, the poll I skipped was about whether I "like" Bush or not. That isn't the same thing as whether I think he has good character, and the poll didn't interest me so I didn't even open it. I don't care if people here "like" him or not.

For the record though, I do like him! You already remember that I think he has good character, too. :)

p.s. If you're searching for the thread, look for Lasher's crazy 8 ball thread where he was guessing at the election outcome. That would be the one you want since most of the character discussion I participated in is in that one. It is hard to find with the search function not working well though.
 
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p.p.s. Sorry, Laurel. I probably shouldn't have baited you like that, but it was just too easy to resist. I knew you'd come through eventually. :D
 
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