Canada bus attack leaves man decapitated

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Well most horror flicks involve crazee Canadians with axes. An American would have the commom decency to blow your head clean off your shoulders the first time, but Canadians are inexperienced with violence and emotionally repressed, so they go Lizzy Borden when they go off.

We use Canadians in Afghanistan for this very reason. We use their smoldering rage to get the Arabs to quit. Arabs know that those quiet, polite Canadian boys will likely carve them like jigsaw puzzles and not even wash their hands afterwards.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Rocket Man

Well most horror flicks involve crazee Canadians with axes. An American would have the commom decency to blow your head clean off your shoulders the first time, but Canadians are inexperienced with violence and emotionally repressed, so they go Lizzy Borden when they go off.

We use Canadians in Afghanistan for this very reason. We use their smoldering rage to get the Arabs to quit. Arabs know that those quiet, polite Canadian boys will likely carve them like jigsaw puzzles and not even wash their hands afterwards.

And if we could just get all those Afghans to get on a bus.......

then look out!!!

It is Med's time again JBJ.


-KC

 

[rgraham666]

Jesus, Jimmy Bob. Where did you learn your history and geography? Off the back of bubble gum cards?

 

[cantdog]

I don't know why anyone listens to him, seriously.

 

[impressive]

I don't know why anyone listens to him, seriously.

Who him? I don't think I listen to any hims... or hymns... or hers, either, for that matter. I listen only to the voices in my head. Is hymn in there?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ROB

Americans are congenitally violent and know how to express violence with elegance and decency. But Canadians hide their feelings beneath a patina of charm and kind words until they erupt.

 

[Oblimo]

Good thing guns are so strictly controlled in Canada.

Good point. Imagine the effort involved in repeatedly stabbing and then decapitating a man with a Glock pistol.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Good point. Imagine the effort involved in repeatedly stabbing and then decapitating a man with a Glock pistol.

Only takes a couple of magazines of nine mil. to decapitate a person with a Glock.

 

[bwallard]

I'm wondering what I would have done had I been sitting across the aisle. I imagine I'd go "What the fuck!" and then be terrified of the slashing knife. I'd watch in horror and terror and by the time my reason had engaged the thing would be over.

As for the victim - and the people who love him? It's horrible enough to think of dying that way, but to think of someone I love dying that way! So terrifyingly and so for nothing. That would hurt so bad over and over again.

Once upon a time our loved ones would be hauled off screaming by a sabre-tooth tiger. Probably a common event.

Life has its horrors. Fuckin tigers. Fuckin neuronal malfunctions.

Awful story.

 

[orgasmic_writings]

I was just imagining the same thing. Imagine sitting there and then all of a sudden the man across the aisle from you is getting killed by a psychopath. Then he gets decapitated and you're left sat beside the headless body as the killer parades the head around the bus.

I'd be terrified he was going to move onto me after he'd cut up the body. I reckon I'd actually crap myself.

 

[SlickTony]

Based on how much work is involved in disjointing a chicken or deboning a lamb leg, and how much bigger a person is than either one, it seems incredible to me that someone could not merely kill somebody, but get as far as beheading him, without somebody doing something.

 

[shereads]

In fairness, Rob, I think Carnie's point was that in the absence of guns, you simply have more knife crime. The tool is not the essence, as it were.

If he'd had a proper American weapon, he wouldn't have had to leave all those witnesses.

 

[SlickTony]

If he'd had a proper American weapon, he wouldn't have had to leave all those witnesses.

And if one of the witnesses had had a proper American weapon, the butcher might have been stopped before he achieved his objective.

 

[TheeGoatPig]

Who him? I don't think I listen to any hims... or hymns... or hers, either, for that matter. I listen only to the voices in my head. Is hymn in there?

Listen to the voices. The voices are always right

Good point. Imagine the effort involved in repeatedly stabbing and then decapitating a man with a Glock pistol.

Only takes a couple of magazines of nine mil. to decapitate a person with a Glock.

I wouldn't need to decapitate a man with a glock, I just need to shoot him before he shoots me

Based on how much work is involved in disjointing a chicken or deboning a lamb leg, and how much bigger a person is than either one, it seems incredible to me that someone could not merely kill somebody, but get as far as beheading him, without somebody doing something.

Once the victim is dead (which is pretty likely before you could do anything about it), it doesn't really make a difference. Just get off the bus before he turns his attentions elsewhere, and make sure he doesn't hurt anyone else.

 

[cantdog]

Sharpening a Glock by shooting a box of 9 mm at it?

Wouldn't a bench grinder be quicker and more effective?

 

[Guest]

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SLICKTONY

In 1994 a large young man walked into the hospital and took me hostage. He came in my office and pulled out a butcher knife. Voices commanded him to kill someone, and I was it.

I pressed the security alarm...nothing happened...Barney & Gomer were on break. Later the SWAT guys came and stood around outside....smoking. Finally I took the knife away from the kid and restrained him. THEN the SWAT team raced into the building!

People arent likely to help you out if you get in trouble.

 

[rgraham666]

I'm still just so bothered by this.

The guy looked okay when he boarded the bus.

He didn't appear to know the victim.

So for some reason he decided to stab this kid in the throat, while the victim was sleeping, listening to music on his headphones.

Just how fucked are people, really?

Very. Unfortunately.

 

[emap]

Luckily not everyone, just some.

That said though, I am honestly leaning toward some sort of gang initiation is the reason behind this. It is not terribly often someone goes that nuts without there being signs of a problem, both long before and right before. Course could be a simpler reason or a more complex reason, but well that's not for anyone to know until maybe the trial.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

EMAP

Schizophrenics get THAT crazee. Especially if theyre paranoid.

 

[emap]

James yes they do, but it takes a special kind of schizophrenic to go that nuts that fast without a warning sign of any kind. There must of been something to set him off like that, perhaps the woman he was talking to before the last stop said she liked the victim better. Except in that case he would have gone right back right then and done it, not waited around for a stop and then sat back there and waited a while to do it.

The whole thing sorta says preplanned to me. Which rules out a schizophrenic, one that nuts can't plan, they just up and do it. There almost without a doubt is a reason for this, which won't be said by the killer, he I think is trying for an insanity plea.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

EMAP

Paranoid schizophrenics will attack without warning. If theyre hallucinating they'll do it.

The young man who pulled a knife on me walked in off the street, waited patiently in the lobby, then came in my office and pulled out the knife. I'd never seen him before. His hallucinated voices were commanding him to kill a doctor.

I've come across others who are threatening and antagonistic with strangers.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Rasputin was also hung and drawn and quartered.

See that's part of the problem though, people tend to overreact when it comes to death of others. Rasputin wasn't exactly a loved man so they probably had a bit of overkill, used a slow poison, tried hanging but the rope broke or whatever so they stabbed him then went for the drawn and quartered, I assume the rope broke or he wasn't tied well so ended up managing to not be torn apart so through his crawling away to their shoving he fell into the river. Certain parts of that were omitted from the general report that we see now.

As it stands, Rasputin was poisoned, hung, stabbed, drawn and quartered and eventually his still living body fell into the freezing river never to be seen again.

You can have the exact same problem with this incident if they do not keep the witnesses stuck away until after they give a report to the police, and they can't release much information so there can be no chance of a jury being unduly prejudiced. Canada paid attention to the O.J. trials I think.

Wait a minute!

Being drawn and quartered means they pull you apart with four horses. How can you be drawn and quartered and not killed? You mean they tried this on him and it didn't work? They couldn't pull Raspy apart?

I heard they just poisoned him then stabbed him, rolled him in a rug and beat him, and dumped him into the frozen Neva river and his body was found climging to a bridge piling the next day.

They should have put him on a Grayhound to Edmonton.

Edited to Add: Just reread it: I see. So they tried these things and they didn't work. Okay. Well, the remark about the Grayhound to Edmonton still stands.

 

[cantdog]

James yes they do, but it takes a special kind of schizophrenic to go that nuts that fast without a warning sign of any kind. There must of been something to set him off like that, perhaps the woman he was talking to before the last stop said she liked the victim better. Except in that case he would have gone right back right then and done it, not waited around for a stop and then sat back there and waited a while to do it.

The whole thing sorta says preplanned to me. Which rules out a schizophrenic, one that nuts can't plan, they just up and do it. There almost without a doubt is a reason for this, which won't be said by the killer, he I think is trying for an insanity plea.

He got on the stop before the victim did. He waited for the victim to settle in, then he struck. The article says it was random, but it doesn't quote an investigator to say that. The investigators give no details they've found, although one opines the crime was unusual.

I can entertain the idea that it ws planned, that is, intended for the specific 19-year-old (who, we suppose, incarnated Evil so well that he needed to be mutilated after death, like Dracula). OTOH, hacking someone up argues all by itself that the man may have been a little less than in complete control.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Its classic paranoid schizophrenia. The killing is disorganized cutting, stabbing, and slashing. This means the killer is psychotic. Or he's an LSD freak.