Biden's out

[ll74]

DNC party rules allow a substitute candidate but that candidate isn't automatic because in the primary voters really only vote for delegates at the convention. Delegates are bound by the voters' choice but are relieved of that binding after a set number of rounds where there is no winner at the convention. At that point it's a free for all.

Kamala doesn't get access to campaign money until she actually becomes the nominee after the convention. Neither does anyone else.

So for the next few weeks there is no Democrat nominee, presumptive or otherwise and no spending can be done by the campaign. Not even to make yard signs.

When Biden announced that he was dropping out, the delegates were relieved of their obligations towards him.

 

[Aglaopheme]

So:

It is now a LOCK that WHOEVER the Democratic nominee eventually turns out to be will win in November, because ALL those young voters, and ALL those who took issue with President Biden’s Israel-Gaza policy will flock to the ballot box - and ALL the older voters of various political leanings who preferred President Biden over Trump will support the new nominee 100%.

(And everything will go smoothly from a legal standpoint when it comes to ballots and the election itself.)

COOL!!!





Side note:

I will definitely vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, so any potential rise or decline in support for the eventual nominee will not be due to any action on my part.

Mark my words, it’ll be Harris.

I was just saying I’ll have to jump the border and get to work. I recently moved out of a swing state and into a blue state.

 

[adrina]

This is the reality we live in on both sides. It’s why we have Trump/Vance, and why Biden is out. I’ll tell you a story off line. Let me know when you want to get real annoyed.

The "whims" of self anointed "kings".

 

[Aglaopheme]

DNC party rules allow a substitute candidate but that candidate swap isn't automatic. In the primary voters voted for delegates at the convention. Those delegates are bound by the voters' choice but are relieved of that binding after a set number of rounds where there is no winner at the convention. At that point it's a free for all. You can't just swap out Joe for Kamala, she has to be nominated the candidate at the convention.

Kamala doesn't get access to campaign money until she actually becomes the nominee after the convention. Neither does anyone else.

So for the next few weeks there is no Democrat nominee, presumptive or otherwise, and no spending can be done by the campaign. Not even to make yard signs.

Dude I stopped reading after the second sentence. That is not even close to how the delegates are selected.

 

[smallcock982]

Kamala isn't black, she's Jamaican and Hindu ancestry from my understanding...... but more importantly she's a vegetable salad on steroids.......

Ah the ignorance. Hindu isn't an "ancestry."

 

[HisArpy]

Dude I stopped reading after the second sentence. That is not even close to how the delegates are selected.

Your primary vote is to tell your state delegates who to vote for at the convention.

Your vote in November is to tell your state electors who to vote for at the electoral college.

Remember, the US isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic, so you don't ever actually vote for the person directly. Instead you vote for a representative who will nominate/elect the person the majority of voters selected.

This of course ignores the backroom dealmaking by superdelegates and their owners.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Dude I stopped reading after the second sentence. That is not even close to how the delegates are selected.

I lied, I read another sentence. Delegates at the convention are not “bound” to vote for anyone. We make a pledge, or are “pledged”, but it’s not binding in anyway.

 

[HisArpy]

I lied, I read another sentence. Delegates at the convention are not “bound” to vote for anyone. We make a pledge, or are “pledged”, but it’s not binding in anyway.

No. See eg; "faithless elector" laws.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Your primary vote is to tell your state delegates who to vote for at the convention.

Your vote in November is to tell your state electors who to vote for at the electoral college.

Remember, the US isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic, so you don't ever actually vote for the person directly. Instead you vote for a representative who will nominate/elect the person the majority of voters selected.

This of course ignores the backroom dealmaking by superdelegates and their owners.

No it’s absolutely not how delegates work.

Pledged delegates​

Democratic pledged delegates must express either a presidential candidate or an uncommitted preference as a condition of election. Under Rule 12(J) of the Democratic National Committee's delegate selection rules, any pledged delegate who expressed a candidate preference is encouraged but not required to vote for the candidate that he or she has been elected to support.

I’m sure you will promptly admit to your being wrong, just as you always do.

 

[Aglaopheme]

No. See eg; "faithless elector" laws.

See where you are wrong. Honey, this is not your lane.

 

[Justplainjeff]

Bull. He’s doing a fine job as President. Stop being ridiculous.

A fine job? Millions crossing the Southern border. Including murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and other assorted criminals. If that's doing a fine job, I'd hate to see what would be going on if he wasn't. And who is his border tzar? Yep, the cackling hyena he's endorsing. God help us.

 

[HisArpy]

No it’s absolutely not how delegates work.

I’m sure you will promptly admit to your being wrong, just as you always do.

I am currently in process of reviewing the rules. I don't think your quick snap of something from google is correct. I could be wrong, and I freely admit I'm not an expert on DNC bylaws ans rules (hence my current unfinished review) but I don't think that's correct.

Basically we're in uncharted territory and fast google searches are often incorrect in their results.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I wonder how old HisArpy is? He seems to have the same diminished mental capacity as doddering Diaper Donnie.

 

[MajorRewrite]

A fine job? Millions crossing the Southern border. Including murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and other assorted criminals. If that's doing a fine job, I'd hate to see what would be going on if he wasn't. And who is his border tzar? Yep, the cackling hyena he's endorsing. God help us.

Border crossings are down.

The Biden administration has sent back far more immigrants at the border than Trump ever did. Trump was soft on immigration.

Meanwhile, the economy has 6,200,000 more jobs now than pre-pandemic.

Inflation in May and June: 0%

It’s all good.

 

[Lazaran]

Mark my words, it’ll be Harris.

I was just saying I’ll have to jump the border and get to work. I recently moved out of a swing state and into a blue state.

Of course it SHOULD be Kamala Harris, but you have garbage like Manchin, etc, out there talking about how there should be an open "primary" where Kamala can be challenged and EARN the nomination.

(Translation: Manchin, etc, do NOT support Kamala Harris, and the Manchin, etc, class of voters nationwide who would have voted for President Biden are likely now at risk if / when Kamala Harris is indeed the nominee.



There had better be a youth wave of support for Kamala Harris ilike we have never seen before if she is the nominee, because things just got a whole lot more uncertain, imho.

 

[adrina]

I wonder how old HisArpy is? He seems to have the same diminished mental capacity as doddering Diaper Donnie.

Maybe that's why he supports such an old man with cognitive failure for president. Birds of a feather...

 

[Aglaopheme]

I am currently in process of reviewing the rules. I don't think your quick snap of something from google is correct. I could be wrong, and I freely admit I'm not an expert on DNC bylaws ans rules (hence my current unfinished review) but I don't think that's correct.

Basically we're in uncharted territory and fast google searches are often incorrect in their results.

You are wrong. Not your lane. This is my lane, silly not a snap google search.

I was gonna say more, but it’s too specific for the sewer rats that dwell here.

 

[HisArpy]

Going to edit my prior post here because this is a fast moving conversation.

The link you gave doesn't say what you think it says. For instance, in the first footnote there's a link to the 2016 DNC rules. Those rules say:

Individuals who were pledged delegates were pledged to support the candidate to whom they were allocated.

https://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_nominations:_calendar_and_delegate_rules

That means for at least the 1st round, pledged delegates must vote for the candidate who won their state because that candidate is toward whom their votes were allocated.


After that they are free to vote for a candidate who is nominated and who falls under the rules for such a nomination. I'm not sure if that includes only those who fall under the 15 percent rule or not.

 

[ll74]

Going to edit my prior post here because this is a fast moving conversation.

The link you gave doesn't say what you think it says. For instance, in the first footnote there's a link to the 2016 DNC rules. Those rules say:



That means for at least the 1st round, pledged delegates must vote for the candidate who won their state because that candidate is toward whom their votes were allocated.


After that they are free to vote for a candidate who is nominated and who falls under the rules for such a nomination. I'm not sure if that includes only those who fall under the 15 percent rule or not.

Since that candidate dropped out, delegates are not bound to him and can vote for whoever they want.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Maybe that's why he supports such an old man with cognitive failure for president. Birds of a feather...

Old farts do like to sit around together and tell bullshit stories about the olden days.

 

[HisArpy]

Since that candidate dropped out, delegates are not bound to him and can vote for whoever they want.

Cite? Because like I said, I'm in process of reviewing the rules.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Bi

Old farts do like to sit around together and tell bullshit stories about the olden days.

I saw 2 young farts in the park dressed as ninjas and beating each other with plastic swords. Wonder who they're voting for?

 

[HisArpy]

Bi

I saw 2 young farts in the park dressed as ninjas and beating each other with plastic swords. Wonder who they're voting for?

Umm, dare we ask what you were doing in the park at that time of day?

 

[Bray123]

$364 million civil fraud judgement
$2 million charity fraud judgement
$88.3 million sexual abuse judgement
26 sexual assault victims
$25 million fraud judgement
Fraudulent university shut down
Fraudulent charity shut down
Company convicted of being a crime organization
Draft deferments
91 criminal charges
2 impeachments
6 bankruptcies
4 indictments
Tax fraud
Mocks the military
Frequent Flyer Points on Epstein Air
Frequent outrageously icky statements on TV regarding his daughter and other children.

ThaT soUnDs liKe a Man wHo I wAnt as pResiDent!

 

[Saint_Ann]

Umm, dare we ask what you were doing in the park at that time of day?

Splashpark!