Biden's out

[RobDownSouth]

That was a civil trial. No 'guilty' verdicts. 'Responsible' or 'liable'.

"Responsible sexual abuser" sounds like a contradiction in terms.

 

[jaF0]

The law is full of that kind of thing.

 

[HisArpy]

That was a civil trial. No 'guilty' verdicts. 'Responsible' or 'liable'.

It also wasn't a verdict of rape like some keep promoting.

 

[adrina]

Literally none of this bad for the Democrats.

* They were all going to rally around whoever the nominee is, including Biden if he had stayed.
* There is no more media cycle about one bad debate
* The GOP convention lost all momentum it might have had (though to be fair, Trump's horrible, endless speech did a lot of that already)
* The huge part of the voting population who has been saying forever they want a different option then these two, old, bumbling white guys finally had an option.
* There was no momentum lost from the primaries because to here was no primaries
* The GOP is already flailing in response, screaming about legal challenges that are there and realizing that their entire strategy has been to attack Biden, which is all pointless now. Other than wrestlers and strippers their four days of convention attacking Biden when they supposedly were trying for unity was all a waste now.

This isn't Obama dropping out with a twenty point lead. The timing is ideal and Biden with zero momentum was still in a toss up because Trump is so awful. This was the worst case for the Orange Racist Rapist.

And Trump is now the one who has to defend his age and cognitive ability.

 

[FGB]

Well.

WE DO INDEED LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES.

 

[MajorRewrite]

$46,700,000 donated to ActBlue in 7 hours.

Nice to see people put their money where their mouth is.

 

[dkovic77]

Now what?

Who has the grand plan?

Ohhh let me do the Dull74 response please…

What’s your source? (That’s his usual..)

I would have no doubt there is a plan, but the DNC will have some steps to work through to make sure it’s clear.

The brain dead MAGA usual suspects will be all upset and talk about voice of the people (as if they care what voters think, trying to constantly disenfranchise folks)

And now to read what happens and see…

 

[eric_erosfan]

$46,700,000 donated to ActBlue in 7 hours.

Nice to see people put their money where their mouth is.

Hah, I was one of them. We all had the same idea.

 

[dmallord]

I'm just wondering if you can see what you're really doing. Do you recognize obsessive behavior when you see it? You want Trump to not be reelected so badly you'll literally vote for ANYONE, including Putin or the Ayatollah, to try and make that not happen.

Look at yourself and see with clear eyes what you've become.

Trumpet is a virtual sock puppet... for the dictators he admires most. Not hard to see the obsessive behavior when we see it through Trump's eyes.

 

[dmallord]

The main problem the D's have is that they want to win at all costs. What they need to accept is that they've lost this election and to reset for 2028 by finding a candidate who can be competitive against JD Vance.

That candidate is going to have to be very close to center Left or they will lose again. That candidate cannot campaign on a pro abortion platform, or a platform which invokes all of the tired planks of the past like gun control/assault weapons bans, racism, forcing the rich to pay their fair share, etc.

Right now I don't know who that candidate is. I'm not sure the D's know either because it's not Newsom, Whitmer, Hochul, or any of the other Dem governors. Maybe a celeb but I have no idea who.

"... I have no idea..."

Sounds about right.

 

[dmallord]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815092282615529841

Broken recording... A sign of a man with mental incompetency.

 

[dmallord]

To be fair to Harpy "truth" is a very fluid concept to him.

His fluids are carbon-based water powered by deadly twelve-volt batteries. Please, don't credit him with possessing concepts. That's just too kind.

 

[dmallord]

This is a lie.

Your words are a lie. He went to trial for rape and was found guilty to a less degree; he lies with every breath and has been repeatedly convicted of fraud in court. Those are facts. Own it like a good lawyer and please don't refute the verdicts with your whining.

 

[dmallord]

I defend the innocent, Trump is NOT an "adjudicated rapist."

Wait... Trump hired YOU? No wonder you claim he is innocent. But then if not a rapist, he is, in your absence of a defense guilty of all other crimes he committed?

 

[dmallord]

DNC party rules allow a substitute candidate but that candidate swap isn't automatic. In the primary voters voted for delegates at the convention. Those delegates are bound by the voters' choice but are relieved of that binding after a set number of rounds where there is no winner at the convention. At that point it's a free for all. You can't just swap out Joe for Kamala, she has to be nominated the candidate at the convention.

Kamala doesn't get access to campaign money until she actually becomes the nominee after the convention. Neither does anyone else.

So for the next few weeks there is no Democrat nominee, presumptive or otherwise, and no spending can be done by the campaign. Not even to make yard signs.

NBC News

WASHINGTON — "One thing hasn't changed now that President Joe Biden is no longer seeking the Democratic Party's nomination: Democratic convention delegates remain free to vote for whomever they want to be their party's nominee, regardless of the results of the primary."

It's okay to get it wrong. Just say so when it's pointed out here.

 

[dmallord]

Your primary vote is to tell your state delegates who to vote for at the convention.

Your vote in November is to tell your state electors who to vote for at the electoral college.

Remember, the US isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic, so you don't ever actually vote for the person directly. Instead you vote for a representative who will nominate/elect the person the majority of voters selected.

This of course ignores the backroom dealmaking by superdelegates and their owners.

So, not admitting you are wrong, again. Just spin the dial, hoping it's enough of a deflection like Trump, to play the game of 'whatever I said was right, even when what I said was wrong.'

 

[dmallord]

There's a hidden message in Biden's humiliating withdrawal letter that should terrify every American: Who on EARTH is running this country?​

What a disgraceful end to a disgraceful presidency.

Rather than exit this presidential race with dignity, rather than show long-suffering Americans the respect we deserve, President Joe Biden has hastily declared he's out — on social media.

Joe Biden's ghosted us!

LBJ in 1968 this is not. In fact, this withdrawal — in tone, tenor, shame, and bitterness — calls to mind none other than Richard Nixon's resignation. Biden has humiliated himself, the nation, the Democratic elites, megadonors and liberal-media enablers who spent years covering for him. And he didn't even initially endorse his Vice President! Someone had to clean up Aisle 9 on X with a hasty follow-up Kamala endorsement tweet.

Dr. Jill must be under heavy sedation. Her personal account on X, as of this writing, is still bannered: 'Let's finish the job'. She could only bring herself to retweet her husband's letter with no remarks of her own, just a love heart emoji. Stay classy, Jill and Joe.

So suddenly did this Sunday afternoon announcement land that one wonders if it was released before Biden could change his mind (or does he even know yet?).

Announcements of this magnitude are typically presaged with an alert to the media. Early reports are that Biden's top campaign staff didn't know about the letter, with a handful told just one minute before someone pushed 'publish'. It all raises more questions.

Such as: Who wrote it? When was it drafted? Was it his decision alone, or was he coereced?

Why didn't Biden, like LBJ before him, announce his monumental decision to stand down during a primetime televised address from the Oval? Is he that far gone — unable to read prepared marks from a teleprompter? Who is running this country? This, truly, is the only question that matters.

Yet in this boilerplate, thoroughly self-aggrandizing letter, in which Biden claims he's pulled an FDR with the American economy and says he's left the nation better than he found it — 'America has never been better positioned to lead than we are today' — he says he's going to serve the rest of his term. Yes, Biden's focus — something he has loose possession of from the hours of 10am to 4pm — is now 'on fulfilling my duties as President' until January.

Read this, my friends, in a hoarse Joe Biden whisper: He can't do it.

This man has no business staying in the most consequential job on the planet. He has no business with access to the nuclear codes. He needs to resign immediately, turn the keys over to Kamala, and prep for what should be an in-depth investigation into the cover-up regarding his health and cognitive decline.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...residential-race-kamala-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html

There are all the right interrogatives for new writers: who, why, how, when, where, and the proverbial... because!

 

[Aglaopheme]

$46,700,000 donated to ActBlue in 7 hours.

Nice to see people put their money where their mouth is.

According to the NYT, “As of 10 p.m., Sunday was ActBlue’s third biggest day for online donations in its history.“

 

[Aglaopheme]

Not relevant to the issue of whether delegates can vote for her or if they're bound to vote for Biden even though he's dropped out.

The article does however illustrate clearly that we're in uncharted waters and that Harris isn't necessarily going to automatically be the nominee.

Did I say it was relevant?

Who said it was automatic?

 

[schism666]

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815216282477691290

Here's to hoping he loses his shit during the inevitable debate.

 

[coati]

Young women are thrilled that we no longer have to choose between two old white men.

 

[HisArpy]

Did I say it was relevant?

Who said it was automatic?

It's possible that Harris it isn't going to get to be the top of the Biden/Harris (now the Harris/fill in the blank) ticket without a court order. Again, I'm not positive of how it's going to work, but I think the registration window for presidential candidates closed before the primaries.

One could make the argument that Harris didn't register to run for the Presidency (as supported by the fact that she had to re-file). Since the registration window is closed, the new registration filing isn't timely and could possibly be rejected for that reason. Whether it will be or not I cannot say but you can bet the R's are looking into that angle.

If it's correct and she can't file (nor can anyone else like Joe Manchin) the D's could be stuck with someone who already has filed. That would make Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson the only remaining viable candidates for the D ticket.

Then we run into the 15 percent rule. No person can have their name submitted to the floor as a Presidential nominee during the convention unless they received at least 15 percent of the vote in the primary. That knocks out Phillips and Williamson as well as Kamala.

No matter how it shakes out it's going to be messy. That infighting is going to hurt any D campaign regardless of who ends up getting the nod.

 

[HisArpy]

According to the NYT, “As of 10 p.m., Sunday was ActBlue’s third biggest day for online donations in its history.“

Yes, the campaign raised something like $25 million in small donations.

And it happened on the day Joe Biden dropped out.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

It's possible that Harris it isn't going to get to be the top of the Biden/Harris (now the Harris/fill in the blank) ticket without a court order. Again, I'm not positive of how it's going to work, but I think the registration window for presidential candidates closed before the primaries.

One could make the argument that Harris didn't register to run for the Presidency (as supported by the fact that she had to re-file). Since the registration window is closed, the new registration filing isn't timely and could possibly be rejected for that reason. Whether it will be or not I cannot say but you can bet the R's are looking into that angle.

If it's correct and she can't file (nor can anyone else like Joe Manchin) the D's could be stuck with someone who already has filed. That would make Dean Phillips and Marianne Williamson the only remaining viable candidates for the D ticket.

Then we run into the 15 percent rule. No person can have their name submitted to the floor as a Presidential nominee during the convention unless they received at least 15 percent of the vote in the primary. That knocks out Phillips and Williamson as well as Kamala.

No matter how it shakes out it's going to be messy. That infighting is going to hurt any D campaign regardless of who ends up getting the nod.

This has been my gut reaction. Interesting Times are here again.