Back to school

[RebeccaLeah]

LOL,

Your age was never a factor, you are in many ways wise beyond your years and certainly as mature as anyone could wish for.

I always thought the Lorax was rather cute, but I am a sucker for fuzzy things

And feathered, come to think of it

-Colly

That's a hell of a complement, thank you sweetie. (wish the age thing was that cool with others *sigh*)

Well since the goose went off to bed I don't mind taking her place? Hell, I don't think anyone would mind getting kidnapped by you, beautiful.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Ok, I have to speak for the 18 year olds....(I feel like the Lorax)

Please remember that some of them, if not at least half, if are away from their families for the first time ever, lonely, homesick, and scared out of their minds. There was a freshman in one of my classes today who's eyes were red and nose was puffy and when the TA asked for something interesting about each of us she said she was homesick.

Please don't put those 18 yr olds through hell, they're a bit fragile and it sucks, I still remember it way too well.

Now that I got that cleared up, if any of you want to come out here and torture the arogant ones with the brand new SUV's and Mustangs riding high on mommy and daddy's money, you have my every possible blessing, just let me know where and when so I can watch.

P.S. Congrats to all of you who are brave enough to go back, good luck!

Can I laugh at how my colleagues back then were so pathetically unused to freedom from parental control that they did shit like break down in class or get drunk every week or smoke chronic until their grades spontaneously combusted?

Seriously, more college bound kids should go through a horribly alienating high school process with little support from grown-ups so they can thrive better in the freedom of college.

-A young un' and an old un' but not a great old one.

 

[Belegon]

The best artist in the world, in my eyes, is my youngest daughter.

Lou

This line proves you have a great eye for art!

Why is it hard to pin down whether or not something is "good art"?

Because it is different for everyone.

Sciences are more measurable in consistent terms. In my opinion, that does not make them more difficult, just different. It takes all types to make a world, Thank goodness.

 

[RebeccaLeah]

Can I laugh at how my colleagues back then were so pathetically unused to freedom from parental control that they did shit like break down in class or get drunk every week or smoke chronic until their grades spontaneously combusted?

Seriously, more college bound kids should go through a horribly alienating high school process with little support from grown-ups so they can thrive better in the freedom of college.

-A young un' and an old un' but not a great old one.

Tis a wide range of reactions that occur when one stands on one's own two feet for the first time. I don't think you can ever predict how someone will react, though maybe a little more independance in highschool would help....

 

[Belegon]

a note about being away and homesickness...

I moved out of my parents house (the first time) at a couple of months after I turned 19. Did not go to college at all until 20 and did not go away to college until 22.

You can still get homesick at 22. But at least it was not the first time I was on my own.

 

[RebeccaLeah]

a note about being away and homesickness...

I moved out of my parents house (the first time) at a couple of months after I turned 19. Did not go to college at all until 20 and did not go away to college until 22.

You can still get homesick at 22. But at least it was not the first time I was on my own.

I did two years across the nation from them, but then came home (literally living at home) as I finish the last two (college). More went into my transfer than just homesickness, but I think the next time I pack up I'll do better at staying independent even if I miss them a lot. Trying it once has shown me what I still need to succeed at jumping out of the nest.

 

[Belegon]

I did two years across the nation from them, but then came home (literally living at home) as I finish the last two (college). More went into my transfer than just homesickness, but I think the next time I pack up I'll do better at staying independent even if I miss them a lot. Trying it once has shown me what I still need to succeed at jumping out of the nest.

Did you go someplace that was radically different than home, like I did?

I swear, I had more in common with people from the other side of the world than with people who spoke the same language and grew up in the same nation.

 

[sweetnpetite]

thanks wanna make out now?

Oh! I do! I do!

Me! Me! Me!




Congratulations! A masters is impressive. Period.

Go for your PhD, so we can call you doctor destiny

 

[sweetnpetite]

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I've just never heard an artist defend what they do as being anywhere near what geneticists or physicists do.

I don't know why not, other than the fact that most people know that physicists and such require advanced degrees, and that art does not require an advanced degree- therefor leading one to believe that being a physicist or geneticist is more difficult or requires more intellegence. We have this preconcieved notion that rocket scientists and brain doctors are smarter than the rest of us, but it isn't necessarily so. They are just educated in there field. And if they have the same degree, they have approximatly the same amount of education in there field as someone with that level of education in any other area, including art.

If you put *all* of yourself into your art, it requires just as much from you as if you put *all* of yourself into an advanced science. IN many cases, I would wager that you might put more effort into art which is subjective, than into a science where it is clear when your goal has been reached.

In this case, we are talking about the advanced feild of study, not job that follows. Working towards a Masters in anything is likely just as difficult as anything else, depending on your tallents and skills. IN otherwords, there may be physicists who would struggle beyond belief if they tried to get a Masters in English Literature.

 

[RebeccaLeah]

Did you go someplace that was radically different than home, like I did?

I swear, I had more in common with people from the other side of the world than with people who spoke the same language and grew up in the same nation.

I think most of the east coast is pretty similar, besides I've lived in too many places, so unless it's out to Cali or down to Texas, I've met them before.

 

[RenzaJones]

Why is that everyone is so impressed when they hear I'm going back to school to get my masters (until the find out it's in the arts?) Oh well who cares about that I am going back to school and I sincerly hope I don't kill any 18 year olds.

you just stay away from those sorority girls, they belong to the frat boys and you belong to me.

 

[destinie21]

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you just stay away from those sorority girls, they belong to the frat boys and you belong to me.

Lol I seem to remeber you being a Delta sweetie and none of the frat boys snatched you up

 

[RenzaJones]

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Lol I seem to remeber you being a Delta sweetie and none of the frat boys snatched you up

lol once a Delt always a Delt baby anyway I hated the Kappa's and you know it I was forced to settle for you. *sigh

 

[dr_mabeuse]

I did graduate work in English before I and took a Master’s in organic chemistry. Chemistry takes more study, because it’s like learning to speak a new language and you have to internalize a lot of external skills, whereas in English you’re more often trying to externalize things that you already have inside. I wouldn’t say that one is easier than the other. Quantum mechanics was tough, but the toughest thing I ever did in school was try and write a novel for an English course. Learning to write really well is much tougher than anything I had to learn in Chemistry.

Science and engineering might be impressive because of their jargon and math, but I’d rather hang with the humanities people. They’re a lot more fun and interesting for the most part, and more imaginative.

And which has enriched your life more? Quantum chromodynamics or “Catcher in the Rye”?

---dr.M.

 

[destinie21]

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lol once a Delt always a Delt baby anyway I hated the Kappa's and you know it I was forced to settle for you. *sigh

Whatever girl you chased me way back when so I had you before you even knew what a Kappa was.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

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Originally posted by sweetnpetite
I don't know why not, other than the fact that most people know that physicists and such require advanced degrees, and that art does not require an advanced degree- therefor leading one to believe that being a physicist or geneticist is more difficult or requires more intellegence. We have this preconcieved notion that rocket scientists and brain doctors are smarter than the rest of us, but it isn't necessarily so. They are just educated in there field. And if they have the same degree, they have approximatly the same amount of education in there field as someone with that level of education in any other area, including art.

If you put *all* of yourself into your art, it requires just as much from you as if you put *all* of yourself into an advanced science. IN many cases, I would wager that you might put more effort into art which is subjective, than into a science where it is clear when your goal has been reached.

In this case, we are talking about the advanced feild of study, not job that follows. Working towards a Masters in anything is likely just as difficult as anything else, depending on your tallents and skills. IN otherwords, there may be physicists who would struggle beyond belief if they tried to get a Masters in English Literature.

I think I would agree that they are equally "educated" (only because its already predefined by level of accomplishment), but I think I'm still in good company believing astrophysics to be more rigorous, academically, than art. All artists and astrophysicists I've ever know have freely admitted as much (though, admittedly, I only know 4 Masters of Fine Arts and 2 Astrophysicists).

Of course, how something's lack of equitable rigor makes it less important is really beyond me. Walking is less rigorous than hopping on one foot, backwards... but I wouldn't use "rigor" to determine importance (nor have I).

 

[RebeccaLeah]

Ok, I don't care how old you are or what you're studying, HOMEWORK SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

Most of the time, sometimes it's pretty damn cool, but I'm currently complaining about reading The Federalist for the 50th freakin' time. Oh and papers, and finals suck too. *sigh*

 

[minsue]

I did graduate work in English before I and took a Master’s in organic chemistry. Chemistry takes more study, because it’s like learning to speak a new language and you have to internalize a lot of external skills, whereas in English you’re more often trying to externalize things that you already have inside. I wouldn’t say that one is easier than the other. Quantum mechanics was tough, but the toughest thing I ever did in school was try and write a novel for an English course. Learning to write really well is much tougher than anything I had to learn in Chemistry.

Science and engineering might be impressive because of their jargon and math, but I’d rather hang with the humanities people. They’re a lot more fun and interesting for the most part, and more imaginative.

And which has enriched your life more? Quantum chromodynamics or “Catcher in the Rye”?

---dr.M.

Well said

 

[ABSTRUSE]

I wanna go back to school now, I would have been learning how to do the covers for romance novels, I could be doing all of your books.

Stupid Poverty and stupid ignorant nun from hell.

 

[Belegon]

I wanna go back to school now, I would have been learning how to do the covers for romance novels, I could be doing all of your books.

Stupid Poverty and stupid ignorant nun from hell.

Baby, I promise you can do the cover for my book...

...especially if I get to kiss the artist...

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Baby, I promise you can do the cover for my book...

...especially if I get to kiss the artist...

That makes my tail wag!

 

[destinie21]

I wanna go back to school now, I would have been learning how to do the covers for romance novels, I could be doing all of your books.

Stupid Poverty and stupid ignorant nun from hell.

you can still do my book love.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

you can still do my book love.

I want to be in your book sweets, even in a paragraph...lol.

 

[sweetnpetite]

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I think I would agree that they are equally "educated" (only because its already predefined by level of accomplishment), but I think I'm still in good company believing astrophysics to be more rigorous, academically, than art.

You probably are in good company.

But that doesn't mean you are right.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

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Originally posted by sweetnpetite
You probably are in good company.

But that doesn't mean you are right.

That's very true. Very true. I wasn't resting on that as my primary premise, by any means--just that the notion of being in good company makes me feel more confidant about the position.

Essentially, we're talking about "how do we measure rigor". I don't know that we'll find an adequate measure for that. Its why I haven't said "It /IS/ more rigorous", only that "I believe it likely is".

Much softer position.