At Brown University it's considered rape if you have sex

[WriterDom]

with a woman who has been drinking?

Would someone please shoot me when the liberals take over the world.

 

[seXieleXie]

heh. those damn liberal ivies.

 

[lavender]

 

[RhumbRunner13]

BANG!!

 

[seXieleXie]

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/News_Bureau/1996-97/McVicar2.html

 

[seXieleXie]

http://www.brown.edu/Administration/EEO-AA/FILES/SH/SEX_HAR.HTML

3. Sexual Assault

Title 11, Chapter 37 of the Rhode Island General Laws establishes three classes or "degrees" of sexual assault:

a.First degree sexual assault - also called rape: Sexual penetration by a part of a person's body or by any object into the genital, oral or anal openings that occurs when there is a) force or coercion or b) mental or physical inability to communicate unwillingness to engage in an act of which the accused is or had reason to be aware. Lack of consent does not necessarily require physical resistance or verbal refusal; for instance, someone who is asleep or very drunk may be considered unable to give consent.

 

[lavender]

 

[lavender]

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Yep. All that statute says is that sex is considered non-consensual if a woman is so incapacitated as to be unable to give consent for sex.

Ooh, that's radical.

 

[lavender]

 

[patient1]

I'm just impressed that they have 3 degrees for the crime, instead of classifying it all the same, and then trying someone by jury.

 

[Oliver Clozoff]

Ha. What's so liberal about that?

After reading that statute, it comes down to simple reading comprehension, not politics.

 

[Mischka]

I'd like to know what WD drinks that he considers the very act of drinking to instantly meet Brown's requirement of "very drunk."

Also note that being asleep or very drunk does not automatically make the person incapable of consent. It just says that such a person "may be considered" unable to consent. Such a terribly unfair standard for analyzing sexual assault, WD. I see your outrage.

 

[seXieleXie]

i wasn't disagreeing with the statute... i was posting it so everyone could see what was meant by WD's post i think rape is abhorrent and i think a drunk person certainly doesn't have the same capacity to give consent that a sober one does.

 

[WriterDom]

So I guess the lesson is never to fuck a very drunk woman? It says nothing about her passed out in a pool of vomit. What's the point of hanging around till closing time?

 

[WriterDom]

lavender knocks on my dorm room at 2 am and wakes me up. She's drunk, but is that unusual for a college student? She starts coming on to me, kissing me, getting undressed, and I'm a 19 old kid so I take advantage of the situation. In the morning I say something insensitive, and she gets pissed and goes to the infirmary to claim rape. They do a BAC on her and can tell how much alcohol she had the night before. So it comes down to my word against hers, but she has the alcohol evidence. So she does the crime, and I get the time?

 

[Ferun]

but but but...... what if your a guy who only looks good to drunk women?

 

[seXieleXie]

from the first link i posted...

Stossel was alluding to what has become known as the "Lack case" at Brown. Last year, Adam Lack encountered a woman in a room in his fraternity lying next to a puddle of vomit. According to Lack, he invited her back to his room for a glass of water and asked her if she wanted to sleep in his bed. They lay back-to-back, clothed, he says, until she made sexual advances and asked if he had a condom.

Lack says they had sex and she left in the morning after giving him her phone number. More than a month later, the woman, who said she was drunk and didn't remember anything about her encounter with Lack, filed a complaint with the disciplinary council. Lack at first was found guilty of sexual misconduct and suspended. The charge, after he appealed, was reduced to "flagrant disrespect," and suspension was reduced to probation.

 

[Lasz]

Stupid Ivy Leage schools think they are so smart. They dont know what the hell they are talking about. (No offense SexieLexie).

Isn't college all about getting drunk, having sex, then waking up in the morning wondering what the hell is lying right next you. At least that is the way it is here in the Big Ten

 

[lavender]

 

[Ferun]

convinenant AV for the thread to...

 

[WhiteRose]

No alcohol, no sex?

Geez, everytime I HAD sex in college, I was drunk

That sounds a lot worse than it really was :/

(edit: And no, that doesn't mean that everytime I got drunk I had sex. It only happened a couple of times, but yes, each time after I'd been drinking.)

 

[Lasz]

Orignally Posted by Ferun

convinenant AV for the thread to...

I didn't even catch that, I know declare myself the official authority of this thread, I was born for this thread!

 

[RhumbRunner13]

Very drunk?

"someone who is asleep or very drunk may be considered unable to give consent. "

I don't see where it says "passed out in a pool of puke"!

Please define "very drunk", considering that when I went to the second biggest party school in the nation, most of us, including the "Devilettes" were very drunk most of the time!!!!!!!!

RhumbRunner

 

[WriterDom]

I will be the first to admit that I'm ignorant in the ways of a profession that allows OJ to breathe free air.