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p_p_man

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politically correct to accept them, or are gays accepted for what they are?

I'm not gay, and 90% of the time I couldn't care less about people's sexual preferences. But I do have a problem with accepting those gays who flaunt their sexuality in my face as though it's a weapon of war. I get fed up when I say I'm not gay with comments like "That's because you haven't discovered yourself yet". And it's a real turn off for me when I see gay marches with men dressed in womens' clothes covered in makeup and wearing wigs, holding hands as they mince their way along the route in an absurd parody of the female walk.

When I first mentioned my misgivings to my gay friends I felt awkward about bringing the subject up but, thankfully, I found that most of them too had no time for the out and out "queens", considering them a joke more than anything else.

So when we say we accept gays. Do we? Or are we concerned about being seen as homophobic, when most probably we're not? But at the same time are forced to give the impression that we accept gays, against our own instincts.

Should gays invent for themselves a new sub-category, "queens" for instance, which would give the heteros of the world a chance to judge them on their true predilictions. Or would that be too devisive?

My own gay friends call me "gay friendly" which fits the bill precisely as far as my own feelings are concerned.

I'm definitely gay friendly, but I wouldn't call myself queen friendly or even pro-gay. The latter because at the moment it covers all gays.

To me the queens don't enhance the gay movement at all, and in all probability make it harder for it to be accepted.

ppman
 
*Chuckle* All I can say is to each thier own. Let bygons be bygons
 
Leave the queen out of this - I think she is doing a great job :D
 
jass1960 said:
Leave the queen out of this - I think she is doing a great job :D

Polishing silver and balancing a tiara is not as easy as it seems my friend.
 
Marxist said:


Polishing silver and balancing a tiara is not as easy as it seems my friend.

Exactly, poor woman and and she has to put up with our NZ cousins at the moment too!
 
p_p_man said:
politically correct to accept them, or are gays accepted for what they are?

I'm not gay, and 90% of the time I couldn't care less about people's sexual preferences. But I do have a problem with accepting those gays who flaunt their sexuality in my face as though it's a weapon of war. I get fed up when I say I'm not gay with comments like "That's because you haven't discovered yourself yet". And it's a real turn off for me when I see gay marches with men dressed in womens' clothes covered in makeup and wearing wigs, holding hands as they mince their way along the route in an absurd parody of the female walk.

When I first mentioned my misgivings to my gay friends I felt awkward about bringing the subject up but, thankfully, I found that most of them too had no time for the out and out "queens", considering them a joke more than anything else.

So when we say we accept gays. Do we? Or are we concerned about being seen as homophobic, when most probably we're not? But at the same time are forced to give the impression that we accept gays, against our own instincts.

Should gays invent for themselves a new sub-category, "queens" for instance, which would give the heteros of the world a chance to judge them on their true predilictions. Or would that be too devisive?

My own gay friends call me "gay friendly" which fits the bill precisely as far as my own feelings are concerned.

I'm definitely gay friendly, but I wouldn't call myself queen friendly or even pro-gay. The latter because at the moment it covers all gays.

To me the queens don't enhance the gay movement at all, and in all probability make it harder for it to be accepted.

ppman



I take on board what you say about "queens" being bad for gay people.Although I am lesbian I do not frequent lesbian bars and other such places.I'm just not interested.I'm a "normal girl" with a lot of love to give to the right woman.Yes if I was in love I would not be worried about showing my love in public by holding hands etc.
Have you ever flaunted your sexuality by holding hands with a woman or kissing a woman in public?





Wendy;)
 
<nodding>

it's the anger at the world kinda thingy (in some cases understood)....a stereotypical (flaming queen/pissed off dyke) small segment of the gay population...that most gays themself dislike....

sexuality just rocks...hetero-homo-bi....well...asexuality kinda sucks rocks though....
 
Has anyone ever considered that taking the polically correct view is an act of bias. I am bi and have many gay friends. I think this world is cruel enough without worrying about who is fucking who. I would think the homophobes would be greatful for "queens." They sure can't claim they didn't know a queen was gay and if they truely are offended by that kind of behavior it is relatively easy to avoid. I would suggest they avoid Provencetown, and Key West, and that they become familiar with San Francisco before visiting. I just wish the damn world would grow up sometimes.
 
I have a few gay friends who are very nice people,They do not flaunt there sexuality nor do they deny who they are. For some reason I do have an issue with some of the stereotypical images presented by the fringe groups. I do feel sorry for my friends as they are hitting middle age and do not have a steady partner in their life,they complain of loneliness and the fear of never finding a partner to grow old with. I have never understood how a man could have an emotional/romantic interest in another man,But I do understand the sex part of it all. Only because of being molested as a boy where I learned its "just" sex. Screwed me up for years.There was a time that I hated gays only because of what happened to me as a boy,I no longer feel that way.I see them as people trying to find acceptance.
 
I'd just like to point out that it was the "drag queens" and the "diesel dykes" who made gay rights and acceptance of alternative lifestyles an issue society had to face.
I heard an obituary on NPR a couple of days ago about one of the queens who participated in the Stonewall riots, and later started a support group for TV/TS people. It if wasn't for the queens and dykes who were willing to stand up, be shockingly different from mainstream society, and take abuse for it, there wouldn't be wide acceptance of gays and lesbians, or any of the other alternative groups, today.
 
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