Anyone for a nightcap?

[LilyBart]

Just sipping lemon water tonight.
Crappy, no... exhausting, day at work.

I want to retire. Now.


Now, CM, I am pretty sure when I look in the mirror I see Angelina Jolie's body (umm, more or less). I don't think I want to know what everyone else sees.

~LB

 

[CutieMouse]

Just sipping lemon water tonight.
Crappy, no... exhausting, day at work.

I want to retire. Now.


Now, CM, I am pretty sure when I look in the mirror I see Angelina Jolie's body (umm, more or less). I don't think I want to know what everyone else sees.

~LB

Sipping wine tonight. Actually we have stopped the sipping of wine, because sipping more wine would probably be bad,

I want to retire too... days like today make me wish I didn't ethically twitch so hard over the idea of being someone's "sugarbaby"... not that anyone would be nuts enough to do that with someone as old as me when brainless 20 yer olds abound.

See? Totally healthy body image thing. Yay you!

I deal with women, dressing rooms, mirrors, and bras/foundation garments all.day.long. For the love of God can we either love ourselves for how we are, or get off our asses and fix what we hate? Please?

 

[LilyBart]

Sipping wine tonight. Actually we have stopped the sipping of wine, because sipping more wine would probably be bad,

I want to retire too... days like today make me wish I didn't ethically twitch so hard over the idea of being someone's "sugarbaby"... not that anyone would be nuts enough to do that with someone as old as me when brainless 20 yer olds abound.

See? Totally healthy body image thing. Yay you!

I deal with women, dressing rooms, mirrors, and bras/foundation garments all.day.long. For the love of God can we either love ourselves for how we are, or get off our asses and fix what we hate? Please?

"Sugarbaby" actually sounds OK to me at this very moment. I know, it will pass. I'm not really sugarbaby material anyway...

I have (mostly) a healthy body image. Insofar as we're talking about the 50 year old body I am in. I wish I had appreciated this body more when it was younger.

Ah well...

At least I did a mountain hike today. That made me feel good. My thighs might not agree tomorrow though.

~LB

 

[Netzach]

I see vodka and athletic tape in my future.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=29894703&postcount=2428

 

[midwestyankee]

I see vodka and athletic tape in my future.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=29894703&postcount=2428

Sorry to hear that you couldn't get that sidewalk to do your bidding.

To topic: tonight there will be champagne chez Yank.

 

[Netzach]

We are smart again. I like this America. There's already a strong "you know the economy sucked in the 60's and look what the arts were like" feeling in the art world here in Mpls.

And nothing's broken. They wanted 100 bucks for a splint and I was all "are you NUTS?" and made her tape it. My mother would be proud.

 

[midwestyankee]

We are smart again. I like this America. There's already a strong "you know the economy sucked in the 60's and look what the arts were like" feeling in the art world here in Mpls.

And nothing's broken. They wanted 100 bucks for a splint and I was all "are you NUTS?" and made her tape it. My mother would be proud.

Good for you.

I know that folks on the other side of the aisle are saying, "But we've always been proud of America" but the truth is that their pride is a pride in the past. Today we can look to the future with pride. There's a fundamental difference, and I think a more American difference. Our founding fathers had a forward-looking hope and pride in their land and it is that hopefulness for a better future that is the essence of the idea of America.

 

[Netzach]

Good for you.

I know that folks on the other side of the aisle are saying, "But we've always been proud of America" but the truth is that their pride is a pride in the past. Today we can look to the future with pride. There's a fundamental difference, and I think a more American difference. Our founding fathers had a forward-looking hope and pride in their land and it is that hopefulness for a better future that is the essence of the idea of America.

I agree, and even more, rooted in a fantasy of the past that most of us have not been privileged to benefit from as much. This is the beginning of the foundation, not its conclusion. There's still a lot of work to do, and it's time to grow up and welcome that work - that's going to be interesting to see if it will happen - I think a lot of us have forgotten how to fight hard and smart, both.

 

[LilyBart]

Time for a little bump, I think...

I'm getting an early start on the weekend. My house is clean. Tax stuff is in order to start working on this weekend. All of my offspring will be home as of tonight for the weekend. I'm sneaking out of work early tomorrow to go to the Phoenix Open (I know, its the FBR Open, but who hell has ever heard of FBR?) The Cards are playing in the Superbowl on Sunday. And I still have a job, for the moment. Life is good. Right now, anyway.

Nevertheless, its Thursday and close enough to the weekend that I am having a glass of wine. My usual, boring Smoking Loon. A sale is still a sale and the price is right.

How's your wrist Netz? I somehow missed your adventures with demon ice.

~LB

 

[intothewoods]

Don't laugh, but I'm about halfway through the Omnivore's Dilemma. Anyone still up for book club?

I know all about Big Organic, but it's a good reminder. I actually allowed myself to shop at Whole Paycheck last week, though I stuck to my list and my budget. Still, it's probably a good reminder to not get sucked in. And it's so easily a big money suck. Still, I do like to enjoy my shopping. Ah well. I'm joining a local share for the spring (yay) and just found a store that sells local meat and milk. It's expensive, but damn I have never tasted milk that is so, well, tasty!

 

[LilyBart]

Time for a bump, I think.

We are all being so very good at not drinking on school-nights, I think. Which has paid off for me as I need to now buy a new wardrobe 2 sizes smaller. Yay for the closet. Yuck for the wallet.


ITW, did you ever finish the book? And, as an aside, the wedding attire picture made me laugh too. Sort of.

Otherwise...I am feeling pretty happy at the moment.

~LB

I have some political/economic thoughts to share but am on my 2nd glass of wine and may not be totally persuasive.

Thank you spell check.

 

[midwestyankee]

Don't laugh, but I'm about halfway through the Omnivore's Dilemma. Anyone still up for book club?

I know all about Big Organic, but it's a good reminder. I actually allowed myself to shop at Whole Paycheck last week, though I stuck to my list and my budget. Still, it's probably a good reminder to not get sucked in. And it's so easily a big money suck. Still, I do like to enjoy my shopping. Ah well. I'm joining a local share for the spring (yay) and just found a store that sells local meat and milk. It's expensive, but damn I have never tasted milk that is so, well, tasty!

I have found three immutable truths about Whole Foods:

If you saunter around slowly enough, you can sample enough cheese, spreads, veggies, and breads to make for a simple light lunch. If necessary, you can buy a cup of really good soup near the deli and eat it in the store's little café. With water, this is a $3 lunch.

Their prices for the house brand, 365, are quite comparable to the prices on the house brands at my regular food store.

If you fail to close your eyes so as to ignore all of the exotic produce, beer, meats and fish, deli salads, and desserts, you can get out the door with your checking account intact. Woe unto the shopper who peeks in the desserts and cheese aisle, though.

 

[CutieMouse]

I have found three immutable truths about Whole Foods:

If you saunter around slowly enough, you can sample enough cheese, spreads, veggies, and breads to make for a simple light lunch. If necessary, you can buy a cup of really good soup near the deli and eat it in the store's little café. With water, this is a $3 lunch.

Their prices for the house brand, 365, are quite comparable to the prices on the house brands at my regular food store.

If you fail to close your eyes so as to ignore all of the exotic produce, beer, meats and fish, deli salads, and desserts, you can get out the door with your checking account intact. Woe unto the shopper who peeks in the desserts and cheese aisle, though.

We just had a Sprouts Market move in. Sweet Jeebus.

Organic apples for .77/#, grapes were $1.50/# (in February?!?), reasonable prices for bulk foods [granola/nuts/seeds/grains/flours]. I got red and orange bells [peppers] this morning for .78 each. *shock*

Organic granny smiths, organic galas, 2# of baby carrots, 2 bell peppers, a cucumber, a couple # of grapes, 2 bunches of bananas, and a # of trail mix for just under $20... of course the way the kids eat, it'll all be gone before morning, but such is life.

 

[LilyBart]

We just had a Sprouts Market move in. Sweet Jeebus.

Organic apples for .77/#, grapes were $1.50/# (in February?!?), reasonable prices for bulk foods [granola/nuts/seeds/grains/flours]. I got red and orange bells [peppers] this morning for .78 each. *shock*

Organic granny smiths, organic galas, 2# of baby carrots, 2 bell peppers, a cucumber, a couple # of grapes, 2 bunches of bananas, and a # of trail mix for just under $20... of course the way the kids eat, it'll all be gone before morning, but such is life.

I love Sprouts. Not that I don't enjoy shopping at Whole Foods too, but Sprouts tends to be more convenient.

But I think I may have to try Yanks' lunching at Whole Foods idea. Unfortunately, I can't seem to keep away from the cheese section so I may not make it out the door for $3....

~LB

 

[intothewoods]

Time for a bump, I think.

We are all being so very good at not drinking on school-nights, I think. Which has paid off for me as I need to now buy a new wardrobe 2 sizes smaller. Yay for the closet. Yuck for the wallet.


ITW, did you ever finish the book? And, as an aside, the wedding attire picture made me laugh too. Sort of.

Otherwise...I am feeling pretty happy at the moment.

~LB

I have some political/economic thoughts to share but am on my 2nd glass of wine and may not be totally persuasive.

Thank you spell check.

Sighhh, I misplaced the book in the wrong bag. I also have been reading some home remodeling stuff, and a Mario Batali cookbook I got at the library. Oh my yum.

I have found three immutable truths about Whole Foods:

If you saunter around slowly enough, you can sample enough cheese, spreads, veggies, and breads to make for a simple light lunch. If necessary, you can buy a cup of really good soup near the deli and eat it in the store's little café. With water, this is a $3 lunch.

Their prices for the house brand, 365, are quite comparable to the prices on the house brands at my regular food store.

If you fail to close your eyes so as to ignore all of the exotic produce, beer, meats and fish, deli salads, and desserts, you can get out the door with your checking account intact. Woe unto the shopper who peeks in the desserts and cheese aisle, though.

Agreed and agreed, but while I had an inkling of the downsides of big organic companies like Horizon, I hadn't considered much that the chickens are still standing in their own, well, shit, and feeding on low-grade though organic feed. I do fairly well on the eating whole foods, though I'm still tinkering, but seriously, I do not want to eat or feed my family poor quality meat, fish, poultry, eggs or milk. Yick. It's quite gross to think about.

 

[CutieMouse]

Thank goodness for pinot grigio.

 

[midwestyankee]

Thank goodness for pinot grigio.

Pinot Noir has its merits as well.

 

[LilyBart]

Sighhh, I misplaced the book in the wrong bag. I also have been reading some home remodeling stuff, and a Mario Batali cookbook I got at the library. Oh my yum.



Agreed and agreed, but while I had an inkling of the downsides of big organic companies like Horizon, I hadn't considered much that the chickens are still standing in their own, well, shit, and feeding on low-grade though organic feed. I do fairly well on the eating whole foods, though I'm still tinkering, but seriously, I do not want to eat or feed my family poor quality meat, fish, poultry, eggs or milk. Yick. It's quite gross to think about.

ITW, since you haven't finished the book yet, you probably haven't read about Polyface Farms in Staunton, VA yet. That was one of the best parts of the book, I thought. They also have a buying club with deliveries every six weeks. Click here for info. Their chickens live in a slightly less stinky environment...

 

[midwestyankee]

ITW, since you haven't finished the book yet, you probably haven't read about Polyface Farms in Staunton, VA yet. That was one of the best parts of the book, I thought. They also have a buying club with deliveries every six weeks. Click here for info. Their chickens live in a slightly less stinky environment...

Not even close. I read about Polyface Farms and what they do is remarkably less noxious than traditional poultry farming.

In one of my many incarnations I had a job in which I was part of a team that went out to poultry farms to gather chickens to be processed. It was a hands-on task: you collected 3, 4, or 5 birds at a time in one hand, by their legs, and then handed the birds out the barn window to someone who put them into rectangular box cages for transport.

It was not particularly attractive, healthy, or remunerative work and it took me about four years to recover my taste for eating whole roast chicken. Hen houses are just about the most noxious environments in which a person can work.

 

[Netzach]

Not even close. I read about Polyface Farms and what they do is remarkably less noxious than traditional poultry farming.

In one of my many incarnations I had a job in which I was part of a team that went out to poultry farms to gather chickens to be processed. It was a hands-on task: you collected 3, 4, or 5 birds at a time in one hand, by their legs, and then handed the birds out the barn window to someone who put them into rectangular box cages for transport.

It was not particularly attractive, healthy, or remunerative work and it took me about four years to recover my taste for eating whole roast chicken. Hen houses are just about the most noxious environments in which a person can work.

I haven't read this book. I don't know if I need to or not. Even sound farming is still messy unpleasant and smelly business, not the idyllic thing people who read John Berger books and drink Pinot Noir want to think it is.

I still like chicken just fine, and I'll stick with Kadejan Kadejeduh, Kadj....eh...the chicken that doesn't suck in my stores.

 

[intothewoods]

ITW, since you haven't finished the book yet, you probably haven't read about Polyface Farms in Staunton, VA yet. That was one of the best parts of the book, I thought. They also have a buying club with deliveries every six weeks. Click here for info. Their chickens live in a slightly less stinky environment...

I'm at that part, actually. The farm sounds amazing. I've already joined a local CSA fruit/vegetable share with some other folks. I'm getting a half share. Perhaps next year we'll do a full. We have a few sources for local farm meat. Today we bought some buffalo sausages, pork loin, and ground lamb, all from local, organic farms using sustainable practices. The meat is by far the priciest. I'm trying to get us eating less of it though. Tonight we had the sausages with local salad greens. Fab!

 

[intothewoods]

I haven't read this book. I don't know if I need to or not. Even sound farming is still messy unpleasant and smelly business, not the idyllic thing people who read John Berger books and drink Pinot Noir want to think it is.

I still like chicken just fine, and I'll stick with Kadejan Kadejeduh, Kadj....eh...the chicken that doesn't suck in my stores.

I'd heard about ordinary farming practices before, and I'd read some articles about big organic and the problems associated with it. My point is, you've probably read about a lot of what's in the book here and there. It was powerful to read it all together though. And the degree to which everything is made out of low-grade corn was somewhat surprising.

 

[LilyBart]

I'd heard about ordinary farming practices before, and I'd read some articles about big organic and the problems associated with it. My point is, you've probably read about a lot of what's in the book here and there. It was powerful to read it all together though. And the degree to which everything is made out of low-grade corn was somewhat surprising.

The corn think was the real eye-opener for me, I think. I had no idea how pervasive it has become in the average diet.

With the exception of my occasional urge for fried-bologna sandwiches on Wonder Bread, I'm pretty careful about what I buy. However despite all of the other lovely things my state has to offer, locally grown, really organic produce is really hard to find. Or it requires serious discipline in shopping/menu planning. Something I am not really into.

Plus, it is freaky expensive. I priced free-range, heritage turkeys at Thanksgiving and they were about 10 times the price of the equivalent sized Butterball. Yikes!

 

[midwestyankee]

Mmmmmm......there's a sauvignon blanc in my immediate future. In and with some spicy crab soup.

 

[midwestyankee]

The corn think was the real eye-opener for me, I think. I had no idea how pervasive it has become in the average diet.

With the exception of my occasional urge for fried-bologna sandwiches on Wonder Bread, I'm pretty careful about what I buy. However despite all of the other lovely things my state has to offer, locally grown, really organic produce is really hard to find. Or it requires serious discipline in shopping/menu planning. Something I am not really into.

Plus, it is freaky expensive. I priced free-range, heritage turkeys at Thanksgiving and they were about 10 times the price of the equivalent sized Butterball. Yikes!

The prevalence of high-fructose corn syrup in our diets is appalling. In fact, based on a recent conversation on the subject, I recently checked the label on my beloved Marshmallow Fluff. No ingredients listed. Hmmmm....wonder why? A check of the manufacturer's (and there's no better word for it: these people are not cooks) website reveals that it, indeed, is mostly HFCS.

I was so bummed that I had to change my av back to something more natural.