Again? Chicago teachers union mulls strike to block return to classrooms

[Counselor706]

Humor is always based on the truth.

^^^ Plagiarist

Humor is always based on a modicum of truth. Have you ever heard a joke about a father-in-law?

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plagiarize*verb

pla·​gia·​rize*|*\*ˈplā-jə-ˌrīz**also*-jē-ə-*\

plagiarized;*plagiarizing

Essential Meaning of*plagiarize

:*to use the words or ideas of another person as if they were your own words or ideas

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[LukSkyFokker]

^^^ can't comprehend for shit.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'll be sure to use small words from now on with you, Sarge.

Can you stay on topic instead of resorting to personal attacks?

 

[LittleDixie]

That's not YOUR tax money unless you're in Chicago. Why are you so passionate about this? I wish teachers nationwide would do this but too many are cowards.

They do not have cushy jobs, they have jobs that are harder than the vast majority of people do. They are grossly underpaid which is part of the problem with pulling in better teachers. No sane person with that level of education would dare be a teacher. There are easier ways to make more money. The only reason the majority do their jobs is because they love their jobs. You are basically claiming, really the same thing corporate America says. "You aren't people, you are slaves."

You don't care about their health, you don't care about their lives or their families or the families of the students. Not the bus drivers not even the overall economy.

We have teachers where I live, too, and if they want to stop working then I would suggest the same deal: no work, no pay.

If being a teacher is too hard for them, then come and get a job with me working 9-5 Monday through Friday for less pay, with less vacation time, with no pension and no insurance. We're hiring.

Fuck teachers. I'm so sick of pretending like teachers do their jobs well, and that they are these great heroes that work really really really hard up until they take ALL OF SUMMER OFF and still get paid more than I do.

I show up to a job every day and I punch a time card. If I don't show up tomorrow, I'm not getting paid for it. If I have a dispute with my boss and I go on strike, I am not getting paid for it. And I don't think I should. My boss's job is not to be my daddy, he and I have an arrangement where I trade my labor for cash, and if I am not providing him with my labor, I am not entitled to the cash.

Teachers should be no different. They are overpaid, over-compensated, over-vacationed and firing one is like chiseling off a barnacle. One in five of the high school graduates in America are functionally illiterate - that is what ineptitude looks like.

If in my job, I failed at one of every five things I had to do, I would be fired.

But, oh, no, those teachers, you don't understand, they work really really hard grading papers. They have to read from a book in front of a class for a few months. It's super duper hard - they're heroes!

FUCK Teachers. They do not deserve the amount of resources given to them, they do not preform the job they are paid to do and they certainly don't deserve to have anyone jumping in to defend them.

 

[pecksniff]

One in five of the high school graduates in America are functionally illiterate -

Cite?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

We have teachers where I live, too, and if they want to stop working then I would suggest the same deal: no work, no pay.

If being a teacher is too hard for them, then come and get a job with me working 9-5 Monday through Friday for less pay, with less vacation time, with no pension and no insurance. We're hiring.

Fuck teachers. I'm so sick of pretending like teachers do their jobs well, and that they are these great heroes that work really really really hard up until they take ALL OF SUMMER OFF and still get paid more than I do.

I show up to a job every day and I punch a time card. If I don't show up tomorrow, I'm not getting paid for it. If I have a dispute with my boss and I go on strike, I am not getting paid for it. And I don't think I should. My boss's job is not to be my daddy, he and I have an arrangement where I trade my labor for cash, and if I am not providing him with my labor, I am not entitled to the cash.

Teachers should be no different. They are overpaid, over-compensated, over-vacationed and firing one is like chiseling off a barnacle. One in five of the high school graduates in America are functionally illiterate - that is what ineptitude looks like.

If in my job, I failed at one of every five things I had to do, I would be fired.

But, oh, no, those teachers, you don't understand, they work really really hard grading papers. They have to read from a book in front of a class for a few months. It's super duper hard - they're heroes!

FUCK Teachers. They do not deserve the amount of resources given to them, they do not preform the job they are paid to do and they certainly don't deserve to have anyone jumping in to defend them.

This thread isn’t about teachers not wanting to work. They do want to work. I don’t know why you’d bring that up.

Of course teachers make more than you, you’ve said that you were currently a high school student.

 

[Counselor706]

Cite?

For your reading pleasure...

Thus, the increase in American literacy cannot be solely chalked up to the creation of a public education system. Indeed, as statistics today show, an education system is no guarantee of literacy. According to a recent study conducted by the U.S. Department of Education, 32 million of American adults are illiterate, 21 percent read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates are functionally illiterate, which means they can’t read well enough to manage daily living and perform tasks required by many jobs.

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[LittleDixie]

Cite?

"According to the U.S. Department of Education, 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

"According to a recent study conducted by the U.S. Department of Education, 32 million of American adults are illiterate, 21 percent read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates are functionally illiterate, which means they can’t read well enough to manage daily living and perform tasks required by many jobs."
https://fee.org/articles/did-public-schools-really-improve-american-literacy/

 

[BidudeinWi]

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Bonus from 2/4/21...Chicago teachers refuse school return — even after $100M spent to keep schools safe

Fire them all!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Fire them all!

Then the kids would be home for the rest of the school year.

 

[ll74]

So you're jealous of collective bargaining.

Sounds like you need.a new job

We have teachers where I live, too, and if they want to stop working then I would suggest the same deal: no work, no pay.

If being a teacher is too hard for them, then come and get a job with me working 9-5 Monday through Friday for less pay, with less vacation time, with no pension and no insurance. We're hiring.

Fuck teachers. I'm so sick of pretending like teachers do their jobs well, and that they are these great heroes that work really really really hard up until they take ALL OF SUMMER OFF and still get paid more than I do.

I show up to a job every day and I punch a time card. If I don't show up tomorrow, I'm not getting paid for it. If I have a dispute with my boss and I go on strike, I am not getting paid for it. And I don't think I should. My boss's job is not to be my daddy, he and I have an arrangement where I trade my labor for cash, and if I am not providing him with my labor, I am not entitled to the cash.

Teachers should be no different. They are overpaid, over-compensated, over-vacationed and firing one is like chiseling off a barnacle. One in five of the high school graduates in America are functionally illiterate - that is what ineptitude looks like.

If in my job, I failed at one of every five things I had to do, I would be fired.

But, oh, no, those teachers, you don't understand, they work really really hard grading papers. They have to read from a book in front of a class for a few months. It's super duper hard - they're heroes!

FUCK Teachers. They do not deserve the amount of resources given to them, they do not preform the job they are paid to do and they certainly don't deserve to have anyone jumping in to defend them.

 

[BidudeinWi]

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Bonus from 2/4/21...Chicago teachers refuse school return — even after $100M spent to keep schools safe

Chicago got $1.8 BILLION for “covid” including covid updates last year. Where TF did that money go that was earmarked for public covid measures including schools?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Chicago got $1.8 BILLION for “covid” including covid updates last year. Where TF did that money go that was earmarked for public covid measures including schools?

The schools.

 

[BidudeinWi]

The schools.

Ya think?

 

[Sean Renaud]

"According to the U.S. Department of Education, 54% of adults in the United States have prose literacy below the 6th-grade level."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

"According to a recent study conducted by the U.S. Department of Education, 32 million of American adults are illiterate, 21 percent read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates are functionally illiterate, which means they can’t read well enough to manage daily living and perform tasks required by many jobs."
https://fee.org/articles/did-public-schools-really-improve-american-literacy/

So according to your study Damn near everybody who can read above a 5th Grade level are college grads.

Does that sound wrong to you, cus it sounds wrong to me. Check my math. 100-54=46. If 42% have some kind of degree that means only 4% of people over the age of 18 who can read don't end up going to college. I have a lot of vets, warehouse workers, etc, etc who would like a word with you.

So either someone at some level is lying, or more likely the ruth is that being able to read a whole lot higher than that isn't necessary to anything you do on a day to day basis. Which having read how the grade is calculated is abit absurd. Its about words, sentences and then words and syllables. It doesn't mean your vocabularly is low or that your reading comprehension is low.

Anecdotal I know but I'm certain he's not the only one. One of my very best friends has Cerebral Palsy and the kind of nearsightedness that makes reading pretty difficult in standard fonts. If someone reads the information to it he does just fine. And we could rattle off together the number of medical conditions that could impede your ability to read.

Basically if you stop getting your information from Right Wing sources, or at least check a second or third source to see if the information you're getting is similar/identical regardless of what you check it might do you well.

Oh go look up how the test is calibrated. If you play Dungeons and Dragons or beat most RPG video games made before about 2010 you're above a 5th grade reading level.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Ya think?

When you did your record request what did you find?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Ya think?

Honestly I doubt the schools even got the lion's share. I mean somehow I assume the Police and Fire Departments, Hospitals, ambulance drivers, bus drivers all got their cuts. Those are just the public servants that I can think off the top of my head. A few more are popping into mind as I ype and I'm sure I'm still no where near all the people who would be considered essential public servants.

Besides there are a whole slew of of people we never really think about.

 

[LittleDixie]

I found a scan of the original letter written by the teachers.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.filmgarb.com%2Fuploads%2F_hu185a2db7ad00022481131fb6342fc43f_35523_8a6ee6049778b60936db0d364d623a64.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

 

[LittleDixie]

So according to your study...

Let me stop you there. This is not my study. This is a study done by the Department of Education.

Now, if you want to argue that the Department of Education got a bad result because they are dumb, then I won't argue with you, but then that would play to my point that educators and government employees aren't good at their jobs.

So, which is it?

 

[Counselor706]

Chicago got $1.8 BILLION for “covid” including covid updates last year. Where TF did that money go that was earmarked for public covid measures including schools?

When President Biden passed the American Rescue Plan in March 2021, Chicago received $1.8 billion in federal COVID-19 relief for the city's schools.

Now, the Chicago Teachers Union (CTU) is demanding to know exactly how that money is being spent after it voted to close schools Tuesday evening to go back to remote classes until the current spike in COVID-19 cases "substantially subsides." The vote resulted in classes being canceled on Wednesday.

"The in-person learning that some of us are getting is still not where it needs to be because the district, the mayor, refuses to put the resources into schools. She spent $100 million. She got $2 billion. … What is the percentage on $100 billion to $2 billion?" CTU Vice President Stacy Davis Gates said during a Wednesday morning Zoom meeting.

"Where are the expenditures from the $2 billion that give the students what they need in their school communities? We haven't seen them," Gates continued, adding that teachers have not seen "any academic recovery" since the COVID-19 pandemic initially shut Chicago*schools down in 2020.

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[Counselor706]

More COVID school closures spell the end of teachers unions empire

Another teachers group, National Educators United, is now pushing for a nationwide closure of schools for at least "two weeks." Yeah, like that worked out so well last time. In reality, you’ve hardly been in what could pass for "school" since COVID began. Even the days you had access to in-person instruction, learning to read was made harder through masks, your short lunches were spent socially distanced from your friends, and you couldn’t play on the playground equipment during recess.

Chicago—where union leaders effectively just voted to strike—is the third largest school district in the country, enrolling more than 340,000 students, and spending over $27,000 per student, per year. Just 23 percent of Chicago public school students can read proficiently. Meanwhile, average Chicago private school tuition is only about $11,000 per student each year.

The academic, social, and emotional costs to young children—to those whose families are beholden to a monopolistic government-run school system—will appear soon, and in shocking fashion—in the data. And let’s not forget the older students who have missed numerous proms, homecomings, and sporting events in recent years. Remember how much those meant to you at that age.

The only way out of this mess is to free families from the clutches of the teachers’ unions. Funding students directly would empower families to access educational alternatives. The good news is that the unions’ political games could further the movement to fund students instead of systems, which already enjoyed significant growth in 2021.

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[SgtSpiderMan]

Let me stop you there. This is not my study. This is a study done by the Department of Education.

Now, if you want to argue that the Department of Education got a bad result because they are dumb, then I won't argue with you, but then that would play to my point that educators and government employees aren't good at their jobs.

So, which is it?

It doesn’t. You need to have your ignorance of how this worked removed. Teachers don’t decide who graduates.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

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Parents already have that choice.

 

[LittleDixie]

No one had even touched what the thread was started about. These teachers can't write a letter without numerous errors.

These people should all be fired.

 

[ll74]

No one had even touched what the thread was started about. These teachers can't write a letter without numerous errors.

These people should all be fired.

Probably because nobody cared about the OP