A cautious, thoughtful discussion of non-abusive incest between adults

[LFM90]

That’s so amazing

 

[Johhnyrotten]

would mil count ? not blood ?

 

[OneEyedSteve]

This issue of consent is not restricted to incestuous relationships, it applies equally to many non incestuous relationships where one partner participates in activity through coercion, not mutual desire. It's the nature of adult sexual relationships and the risk is the same whether the relationship is incestuous or non incestuous.

That's the basis of some adult relationships though. One partner is voluntarily subservient and wants the other partner to make demands of them.

 

[magicalmoments]

That's the basis of some adult relationships though. One partner is voluntarily subservient and wants the other partner to make demands of them.

a voluntary submissive/subservient partner is not being coerced.

 

[OneEyedSteve]

a voluntary submissive/subservient partner is not being coerced.

True

 

[Illgiveitatry1]

I had sex with my 60yo aunt when I was 19. It was over 2 wonderful weeks that I still have such fond memories of. Not very close from an incest perspective maybe, but it was so erotic.

Fuck that so hot would love to hear details

 

[1DarkNightOwl]

Here is the question: if both persons are at least eighteen, and both persons enter into such a relationship voluntarily, do we still call it incest? The word is stigmatizing, to say the least, and in many cases for good reason.

In my opinion no one at 18 or even 20 can truly concent to sex with a parent or stepparent as I beleive their concent is at best a result of coercion of the older party. Same is true for aunts/ uncles.

Now if both parties are older, say 30+, then why not? Most individuals by this point in their lives have the experience and confidence to say no. They should be allowed to do what they want.

 

[Melody_Lightdraft2]

Even today I received a message from a woman who said she wants to be with her father, and she is simply the latest in a long line, along with men and women in every stage of life (not underage), some of them being players in what, to them, is absolutely normal but, normal or not, sometimes involves transgenerational incest even including reproduction.
I draw the line there, by the way, I'm just telling you what some people have told me about.
What I really wanted to explore today are the situations like the one a young adult woman mentioned to me today, a tale I've now heard many times. Or variations like young adult son with mother, etc. Here is the question: if both persons are at least eighteen, and both persons enter into such a relationship voluntarily, do we still call it incest? The word is stigmatizing, to say the least, and in many cases for good reason.
But adults can make choices. I also don't know what the law says about this--is it illegal if both parties are adults and it is consensual? There may be antiquated laws on the books, like the one that says adultery is illegal, that no politician has ever wanted to touch, for obvious reasons; but in the same way that no one gets prosecuted for adultery, would two adults with familial ties who are intimate with each other need to fear the law?
I don't know. I think it more likely they would need to fear social backlash, which would likely be severe.
Having said all this, after having read so many accounts of real life familial relationships (maybe that's a better term than incest in these cases) that were entered into enthusiastically by both parties, and which, as these people tell me, make them happy and fulfill certain needs they couldn't find elsewhere, I have come to the conclusion that sometimes, when it is the right two people, people who for whatever reasons this works for, specifically with the other right person in question, I actually support this.
Now, if after posting this I have not been banned from Lit, I would like to discuss this further, if y'all would.

It's the act of sexual intercourse itself that is illegal, even if both are of legal age and it's consensual.
Because the biological consequences if pregnancy occurs, we are talking of a serious risk of profound defects in the resulting child.
It can also cause an horrific emotional backlash, particularly if the younger party involved gets confused or even confuses lust, with love.

 

[Melody_Lightdraft2]

would mil count ? not blood ?

Not a close relation, I know that the UK is looked at banning Cousins getting married.