2006 Atlantic Basin Hurricane Season

Since Zeta has managed to last into 2006, techincally it is now part of the 2006 season, so this thread is getting started a tad early.

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Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 12

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 12
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM AST MON JAN 02 2006

...ZETA NOW MOVING WESTWARD OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...
...REMAINS A THREAT ONLY TO SHIPPING INTERESTS...

AT 5 AM AST...0900Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 24.5 NORTH... LONGITUDE 39.7 WEST OR ABOUT 1565
MILES...2520 KM... EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH...11 KM/HR. A MOTION
TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH... 85 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME WEAKENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 160 MILES
...260 KM... MAINLY NORTHWEST THROUGH NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1000 MB...29.53 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 5 AM AST POSITION...24.5 N... 39.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 50 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
11 AM AST.

FORECASTER STEWART

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Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 15

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 15
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM AST MON JAN 02 2006

...ZETA STRENGTHENED AGAINST ALL ODDS AND FORECASTS...

AT 11 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 23.5 NORTH...LONGITUDE 41.2 WEST OR ABOUT 1460
MILES...2350 KM...EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 2 MPH...4 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED TO NEAR 60 MPH... 95 KM/HR...
WITH HIGHER GUSTS MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER. HOWEVER...A
GRADUAL WEAKENING IS STILL FORECAST.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 140 MILES...220 KM
TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 997 MB...29.44 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 PM AST POSITION...23.5 N... 41.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 2 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 60 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 997 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
5 AM AST.

FORECASTER AVILA

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The Hurricanes fired several of thier assistant coaches I am told.

Tropical Storm Zeta Discussion Number 15

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Tropical Storm Zeta Discussion Number 15
Nws Tpc/national Hurricane Center Miami Fl
10 Pm Est Mon Jan 02 2006

Zeta Is Stronger Than Yesterday. It Appears That Every Pulse Of
Strong Upper-level Winds That Has Tried To Approach Zeta Becomes
Diverted Away From The Cyclone. Consequently...the Cyclone Has Not
Become Sheared. Satellite Images Show That The Convection Is Over
The Center And The Outflow Has Expanded Westward. Both Subjective
And Objective T-numbers Have Increased Today. In Addition...the
Latest Ssmi Image Show A Ring Of Deep Convection Resembling An
Eyewall...but Not Quite. Initial Intensity Is Being Increased To 50
Knots And I Could Go Even Higher If The Latest Quikscat Is Used.

A Bravo For The Gfdl. It Has Been The Only Model Which Has Kept Zeta
Alive During The Past Few Days And In Fact...the Latest Run Makes
It A 79-knot Hurricane As A Sharp Upper-trough Approaches The
Hurricane. I Was Tempted To Follow The Gfdl Trend But I Hesitated
Since I Am Not Ready For Such Aggressive Forecast Yet Given The
Approaching Hostile Environment Forecast By Every Other Model. All
I Am Doing In The Official Foreast Is Prolonging The Life Of A
Gradually Weakening Zeta...based On Continuity.

Zeta Has Been Moving Little Or Drifting Westward During The Past Few
Hours. A Rather Strong Mid-level Ridge Is Forecast To Develop North
Zeta. This Pattern Should Continue To Steer The Cyclone Slowly
Westward Until Dissipation In 3 Or 4 Days.

Forecaster Avila

Forecast Positions And Max Winds

Initial 03/0300z 23.5n 41.2w 50 Kt
12hr Vt 03/1200z 23.4n 41.8w 45 Kt
24hr Vt 04/0000z 23.3n 42.7w 30 Kt
36hr Vt 04/1200z 23.2n 43.8w 25 Kt
48hr Vt 05/0000z 23.5n 45.0w 25 Kt
72hr Vt 06/0000z 25.0n 46.0w 20 Kt...remnant Low
96hr Vt 07/0000z...dissipated


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Bluesboy2 said:

The Hurricanes fired several of thier assistant coaches I am told.

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If they got creams as badly as I thought I heard they did, I would not be surprized.

Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 17

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM AST TUE JAN 03 2006

..ZETA MAINTAINING STRENGTH...

AT 11 AM AST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 23.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 42.1 WEST OR ABOUT 1395
MILES...2250 KM... EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 5 MPH
... 7 KM/HR...AND A GENERALLY WESTWARD MOTION IS EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 65 MPH...100 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST DURING THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES
...185 KM TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 994 MB...29.35 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 AM AST POSITION...23.0 N... 42.1 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 5 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 65 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 994 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 5 PM AST.

FORECASTER PASCH

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Tropical Storm Zeta Discussion Number 17

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA DISCUSSION NUMBER 17
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 AM EST TUE JAN 03 2006

ZETA'S CENTER APPEARS TO BE PARTIALLY EMBEDDED IN THE CENTRAL DENSE
OVERCAST AND DVORAK T-NUMBERS FROM TAFB AND SAB ARE 3.5...
CORRESPONDING TO A 55-KT CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATE. AN SSMIS
IMAGE AT 1116Z DEPICTED AN EYE-LIKE RING...ALTHOUGH THIS FEATURE
APPEARED TO BE AT MID-LEVELS AND DISPLACED NORTHEAST OF THE
LOW-LEVEL CENTER. UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW IS FAIRLY WELL DEFINED OVER
THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE STORM...AND SO FAR THE STRONG WINDS
IN THE UPPER-TROPOSPHERIC ENVIRONMENT HAVE NOT HAD MUCH OF A
DISRUPTIVE INFLUENCE. AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH...THAT IS CURRENTLY
NEARING ZETA...IS PREDICTED BY THE GLOBAL MODELS TO SPLIT AND THIS
COULD BRIEFLY CREATE A MORE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR STRENGTHENING
TODAY. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST WILL SHOW NO WEAKENING UNTIL A LITTLE
LATER IN THE PERIOD...WHEN STRONG UPPER-LEVEL NORTHWESTERLIES IN
THE WAKE OF THE TROUGH ARE EXPECTED TO BEGIN TAKING THEIR TOLL ON
ZETA.

EVEN WITH VISIBLE IMAGES...THE CENTER LOCATION IS NOT THAT OBVIOUS
AND THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 250/4. A
MAINLY WESTWARD TRACK...TO THE SOUTH OF A LOW-LEVEL RIDGE...IS
LIKELY FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THEREAFTER A LARGE LOW MOVING FROM
THE WESTERN ATLANTIC IS FORECAST TO TURN ZETA TO THE RIGHT. THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS THIS REASONING AND IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE
MODEL CONSENSUS AND LEANS TOWARD THE GFDL TRACK.

FORECASTER PASCH


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 03/1500Z 23.0N 42.1W 55 KT
12HR VT 04/0000Z 23.0N 42.7W 55 KT
24HR VT 04/1200Z 23.0N 43.8W 55 KT
36HR VT 05/0000Z 23.4N 44.8W 45 KT
48HR VT 05/1200Z 24.5N 45.5W 40 KT
72HR VT 06/1200Z 27.5N 46.5W 30 KT
96HR VT 07/1200Z 30.0N 46.5W 25 KT...REMNANT LOW
120HR VT 08/1200Z...DISSIPATED


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Bluesboy2 said:

The Hurricanes fired several of thier assistant coaches I am told.

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LSU 40 Miami 3 can you believe that?

linuxgeek said:

Since Zeta has managed to last into 2006, techincally it is now part of the 2006 season, so this thread is getting started a tad early.

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OK since Zeta made it into 2006, shouldn't it be renamed Alberto since that is the first name for 2006?

plasticman33 said:

OK since Zeta made it into 2006, shouldn't it be renamed Alberto since that is the first name for 2006?

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As far I have seen or found, they only rename storms if they cross between the Atlantic/Gulf & the Pacific. When Ivan hit in 2004, went north and them came back around south and reformed in the Gulf, it kept the same name.

Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 19

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM AST TUE JAN 03 2006

...TENACIOUS ZETA REFUSES TO WEAKEN...

AT 11 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 22.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 42.7 WEST OR ABOUT 1355
MILES...2180 KM...EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 5 MPH...7 KM/HR. A
GENERAL WESTWARD TRACK IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 65 MPH...100 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT
12 TO 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES...185
KM...MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 994 MB...29.35 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 PM AST POSITION...22.7 N... 42.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-SOUTHWEST NEAR 5 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 65
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 994 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
5 AM AST.

FORECASTER AVILA

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Tropical Storm Zeta Discussion Number 19

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA DISCUSSION NUMBER 19
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 PM EST TUE JAN 03 2006

ZETA IS A TENACIOUS CYCLONE AND BASED ON DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS THE
WINDS ARE AT LEAST 55 KNOTS. THE CLOUD PATTERN IS IMPRESSIVE AND
CONSISTS OF AN AREA OF MODERATE CONVECTION NEAR THE CENTER AND A
CYCLONICALLY-CURVED CONVECTIVE BAND TO THE NORTHEAST. THE OUTFLOW
REMAINS ESTABLISHED AND THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF STRONG SHEAR. THE
GFDL INSISTS ON MAKING ZETA A HURRICANE AS AN UPPER-LEVEL SHARP
TROUGH APPROACHES. THIS COULD BE A CASE OF TROUGH INTERACTION
AIDING INTENSIFICATION. I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE GFDL
SOLUTION TURNS OUT TO BE CORRECT. IT HAS ALREADY BEAT ME A FEW
TIMES. HOWEVER...FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY ONLY...THE INTENSITY
FORECAST KEEPS ZETA WITH 55 OR 50 KNOTS FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS
WITH A WEAKENING THEREAFTER.

ZETA IS MOVING WEST-SOUTHWEST OF 250 DEGREES AT 4 KNOTS STEERED BY A
LOW-LEVEL RIDGE. A GENERAL WESTWARD TRACK SHOULD CONTINUE FOR A DAY
OR SO AND THEN A NORTHWEST TRACK SHOULD BEGIN AS A STRONGER RIDGE
DEVELOPS NORTHEAST OF ZETA. AS THE TROUGH GOES BY...ZETA COULD TURN
BACK TO THE WEST OR WEST-NORTHWEST BUT BY THEN...THE CYCLONE SHOULD
HAVE BECOME A REMNANT LOW.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 04/0300Z 22.7N 42.7W 55 KT
12HR VT 04/1200Z 22.7N 43.4W 55 KT
24HR VT 05/0000Z 22.7N 44.5W 55 KT
36HR VT 05/1200Z 24.0N 46.0W 50 KT
48HR VT 06/0000Z 25.5N 46.5W 40 KT
72HR VT 07/0000Z 28.5N 48.0W 30 KT
96HR VT 08/0000Z 30.5N 51.0W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW
120HR VT 09/0000Z...DISSIPATED


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Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 21

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 21
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM AST WED JAN 04 2006

...ZETA A LITTLE WEAKER...

AT 11 AM AST...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 21.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 44.0 WEST OR ABOUT 1265
MILES...2035 KM...EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 7 MPH ...11 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH GRADUAL TURN TO THE
WEST-NORTHWEST THEREAFTER.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 60 MPH... 95 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME WEAKENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115 MILES
...185 KM MAINLY TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 997 MB...29.44 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 AM AST POSITION...21.9 N... 44.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 60 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 997 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
5 PM AST.

FORECASTER AVILA

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so if our temps here in NC don't cool down we're gonna get nailed....and if they do cool down (and seeing as how it thundered hard the other night) were gonna get nailed by ice and snow soon....

basically we're fucked with the common curtesy of a reach around

mouther nature is a Hairy cunt BITCH!!

I believe there is a coldfront heading eastward which should break apart whatever is left of Zeta before she can make it to the mainland.

Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 23

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Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 23
Nws Tpc/national Hurricane Center Miami Fl
11 Pm Ast Wed Jan 04 2006

...zeta...barely A Tropical Storm...

At 11 Pm Ast...0300z...the Center Of Tropical Storm Zeta Was Located
Near Latitude 21.7 North... Longitude 46.0 West Or About 1135
Miles...1830 Km... East-northeast Of The Northern Leeward Islands.

Zeta Is Moving Toward The West Near 10 Mph...17 Km/hr...and A Turn
Toward The West-northwest And Northwest Is Expected During The Next
24 Hours.

Maximum Sustained Windshave Decreased To Near 40 Mph... 65
Km/hr...with Higher Gusts...mainly To The Northeast Of The Center.
Continued Weakening Is Forecast...and Zeta Is Likely To Become A
Tropical Depression On Thursday.

Tropical Storm Force Winds Extend Outward Up To 105 Miles
...165 Km To The Northeast Of The Center.

Estimated Minimum Central Pressure Is 1004 Mb...29.65 Inches.

Repeating The 11 Pm Ast Position...21.7 N... 46.0 W. Movement
Toward...west Near 10 Mph. Maximum Sustained
Winds... 40 Mph. Minimum Central Pressure...1004 Mb.

The Next Advisory Will Be Issued By The National
Hurricane Center At 5 Am Ast.

Forecaster Pasch


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Tropical Storm Zeta Advisory Number 27

It's yet another storm that doesn't want to die...

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TROPICAL STORM ZETA ADVISORY NUMBER 27
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 PM AST THU JAN 05 2006

...ZETA STILL A TROPICAL STORM...BUT JUST BARELY...

AT 11 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM ZETA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 23.2 NORTH... LONGITUDE 48.7 WEST OR ABOUT 990
MILES...1595 KM... EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

ZETA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH...11 KM/HR...AND A
NORTHWESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION WITH SOME INCREASE IN
FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH... 65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. ZETA IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 90 MILES
...150 KM TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB...29.74 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 11 PM AST POSITION...23.2 N... 48.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 40 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 5 AM AST.

FORECASTER PASCH


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In case anyone is interest, the 2006 National Hurricane Conference (April 10-14) is being held in Orlando, FL.

http://www.hurricanemeeting.com/

any clue in what this year has in store?

I refuse to believe in hurricanes anymore. Since they don't exist, they won't hit me again.

huskie said:

any clue in what this year has in store?

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Next forecast update is due out April 4th. What was put out in Dec 05 forecast for a very busy year for 06.

catfish said:

I refuse to believe in hurricanes anymore. Since they don't exist, they won't hit me again.

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ah, the Ray Nagin approach...

I'll hold off then before booking any beach trips

linuxgeek said:

ah, the Ray Nagin approach...

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We just got our walkway down to the beach rebuilt, I would like to go one season without it vanishing into the gulf of mexico....lol