Disrespect for the Dead in Arlington National Cemetery

[HisArpy]

Everything about that ^ is wrong:

Disrespecting someone over their political viewpoints is perfectly reasonable - especially when their viewpoints include supporting a rapey, racist, fascist, misogynistic, corrupt orange traitor.



Hope that ^ helps.



Derpy

Disrespect involves the character of the individual. Political disagreement doesn't involve character at all. That you believe it does is where you fail.

 

[adrina]

Disrespect shouldn't EVER be based in political disagreement. That you choose to make it such, is a shame upon you and enlightens everyone about the content of your character.

You SUCK because you put your hate above everyone's reputation and disrespect others because of that hatred. It is YOU who is disrespectful, not Trump supporters (whatever "Trump supporters" is supposed to mean in your world instead of reality).

Nice try no cigar.

We've never in the history of America had a president say the Constitution should be terminated. Ever. Until that is, Trump.

You can be a Trump supporter, you can be a patriot but you can't be both.

I think maybe I was wrong, maybe it's just not possible to respect trumpers and Trump supporters at all.

 

[HisArpy]

Nice try no cigar.

We've never in the history of America had a president say the Constitution should be terminated. Ever.

You can be a Trump supporter, you can be a patriot but you can't be both.

I think maybe I was wrong, maybe it's just not possible to respect trumpers and Trump supporters at all.

Lies.

You disagree with political ideology. Great. That, however, casts no shadow on the CHARACTER of those who believe differently than you do.

Deflecting doesn't help your argument either. It only shows the depth of the hatred you spread.

 

[adrina]

Lies.

You disagree with political ideology. Great. That, however, casts no shadow on the CHARACTER of those who believe differently than you do.

Deflecting doesn't help your argument either. It only shows the depth of the hatred you spread.

You don't respect anyone who disagrees with your bullshit.

And you support someone because you hate and fear Democrats and liberals.

Cry me a river.

 

[HisArpy]

You don't respect anyone who disagrees with your bullshit.

And you support someone because you hate and fear Democrats and liberals.

Cry me a river.

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

 

[icanhelp1]

Thanks for confirming what I said. It took you a long time to realize that Walz was an acting CSM.

Vance was an ass for attacking him. You didn't address that element, but that's okay. Others have stood him up for inspection and found him to be deficient. So will the public on November 5th.

Walz political career was a disaster.

It wasn't unfortunate that another was denied the opportunity to be promoted because Walz retired. You throw that out like Walz purposely stood in someone else's way. He didn't. And someone took the slot in accordance with DOD regulations when he retired. That's how it works with vacancies at any level.

He should have deployed with his unit. His political career could have waited.

When he re-enlisted and competed for the mtoe CSM slot I'm sure he understood that holding that slot was a time sensitive temporary position. Why would anyone accept the challenge to complete such rigorous training and academic requirements, strive to meet the promotion board standards and just up and quit mid stream. Your TDS has affected your objectivity. Why would any serious contender for such a prestigious rank quit mid stream? His unit received deployment order for Iraq and he quit! SUSPICIOUS at best.

Your remark about stolen valor is still wrong. I gave you the facts, and you continue to misapply them to Walz unjustly. No 'star' for you.

If he was an actual CSM he would have retired as a CSM.

His unit deploys and Walz decides to exit stage left, nowhere to be found. His unit deploys into harms way and Walz quits his quest for CSM to campaign for a political position in his state. Then he has the audacity to publicly promote himself as a retired CSM, to falsely embellish his military service while his unit is serving in Iraq. If I was a CSM in his state I would be livid, I would publicly state for the record the truth concerning Walz's embellishments. He lacks integrity.

 

[SmokingFap]

Walz political career was a disaster.

He should have deployed with his unit. His political career could have waited.

When he re-enlisted and competed for the mtoe CSM slot I'm sure he understood that holding that slot was a time sensitive temporary position. Why would anyone accept the challenge to complete such rigorous training and academic requirements, strive to meet the promotion board standards and just up and quit mid stream. Your TDS has affected your objectivity. Why would any serious contender for such a prestigious rank quit mid stream? His unit received deployment order for Iraq and he quit! SUSPICIOUS at best.

If he was an actual CSM he would have retired as a CSM.

His unit deploys and Walz decides to exit stage left, nowhere to be found. His unit deploys into harms way and Walz quits his quest for CSM to campaign for a political position in his state. Then he has the audacity to publicly promote himself as a retired CSM, to falsely embellish his military service while his unit is serving in Iraq. If I was a CSM in his state I would be livid, I would publicly state for the record the truth concerning Walz's embellishments. He lacks integrity.

If this is the best you all have against Walz, it's the weakest sauce since y'all lost your collective minds over Obama wearing a tan suit.

 

[dmallord]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

Arphy, you take a precarious stance on respect, and it shows in your not-so-logical post. You are selective and dangerously subjective in taking the smug high road here. While you claim to respect those who disagree with you, your definition of 'worthiness' for respect hinges on your personal judgment of their character, which is highly arbitrary. When you dismiss people as 'spreading lies, hatred, and division,' that’s a matter of your biased perspective. Who decides what counts as a 'lie'? Though you claim to be the better person, you frequently skew and spread information that others see as untruthful or divisive. You blame them for failure to agree with you. When they refute your claims, you curse them and deny them any credence. Does their faulting you for your skewed views automatically make them unworthy of respect?

Furthermore, you condemn people for enjoying cruelty and division, yet your words also take a hardline, almost exclusionary approach to those you deem unworthy. Isn’t that contributing to the very divisiveness you claim to oppose? By setting up a moral hierarchy based on your personal views, you risk creating an echo chamber where only those who align with your beliefs are deemed respectable, while others are cast aside as morally inferior.

Respect should not be conditional on whether someone aligns with your views or passes your moral tests. We can still respect others' humanity, even when we vehemently disagree or find their actions problematic. By deciding who is 'worthy' of respect, you are contributing to the polarization you seem so opposed to.

 

[SmokingFap]

Disrespect involves the character of the individual. Political disagreement doesn't involve character at all. That you believe it does is where you fail.

Who you support politically reveals everything about your character. Quit whining.

 

[adrina]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

Blah blah blah.

Same ol same ol.

 

[Bn2f]

Disrespect involves the character of the individual. Political disagreement doesn't involve character at all. That you believe it does is where you fail.

You try to normalize trump as a regular politician and you’re disappointed others aren’t as gullible as you.

 

[SmokingFap]

Respect should not be conditional on whether someone aligns with your views

Agree.

or passes your moral tests.

Strongly disagree.

We can still respect others' humanity, even when we vehemently disagree

Agree.

or find their actions problematic.

Strongly disagree.

By deciding who is 'worthy' of respect, you are contributing to the polarization you seem so opposed to.

We are inherently polarized. I'm sick and tired of folks, especially politicians, promising to unite Americans. It's never going to happen while people are people. That doesn't mean you can't help people on the other side of the aisle, but you don't have to respect ANYONE.

 

[SmokingFap]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time... That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

Name two liberals/Democrats on here that you respect.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

You're not fooling anyone, Derpy. You'll twist yourself with whatever pretzel logic you require to be sympathetic to Republicans.

 

[Bn2f]

Walz political career was a disaster.

He should have deployed with his unit. His political career could have waited.

When he re-enlisted and competed for the mtoe CSM slot I'm sure he understood that holding that slot was a time sensitive temporary position. Why would anyone accept the challenge to complete such rigorous training and academic requirements, strive to meet the promotion board standards and just up and quit mid stream. Your TDS has affected your objectivity. Why would any serious contender for such a prestigious rank quit mid stream? His unit received deployment order for Iraq and he quit! SUSPICIOUS at best.

If he was an actual CSM he would have retired as a CSM.

His unit deploys and Walz decides to exit stage left, nowhere to be found. His unit deploys into harms way and Walz quits his quest for CSM to campaign for a political position in his state. Then he has the audacity to publicly promote himself as a retired CSM, to falsely embellish his military service while his unit is serving in Iraq. If I was a CSM in his state I would be livid, I would publicly state for the record the truth concerning Walz's embellishments. He lacks integrity.

THIS! THIS MEMBER!!!

Is the main one complaining that enlistment into the military provides some sort of exemption from criticism. Read through this post and what he is attempting to do. HE wants the right to say whatever but boohoo’s behind Gold Star valor when getting pushback.

A characteristic of a traitor is being a yellow bellied chicken.

 

[dmallord]

Walz political career was a disaster.

He should have deployed with his unit. His political career could have waited.

When he re-enlisted and competed for the mtoe CSM slot I'm sure he understood that holding that slot was a time sensitive temporary position. Why would anyone accept the challenge to complete such rigorous training and academic requirements, strive to meet the promotion board standards and just up and quit mid stream. Your TDS has affected your objectivity. Why would any serious contender for such a prestigious rank quit mid stream? His unit received deployment order for Iraq and he quit! SUSPICIOUS at best.

If he was an actual CSM he would have retired as a CSM.

His unit deploys and Walz decides to exit stage left, nowhere to be found. His unit deploys into harms way and Walz quits his quest for CSM to campaign for a political position in his state. Then he has the audacity to publicly promote himself as a retired CSM, to falsely embellish his military service while his unit is serving in Iraq. If I was a CSM in his state I would be livid, I would publicly state for the record the truth concerning Walz's embellishments. He lacks integrity.

Your anger is misplaced regarding Walz. The timeline of his military retirement makes your statements baseless. PBS.org even quoted a Fox News statement about this matter. I've included a few paragraphs below for your review. ['If it's Fox, it's got to be right!']

He left the unit before the notification to deploy came. Do you fault him for not re-enlisting and then going with them? Are you mad because he left service to run for Congress without any knowledge of upcoming deployment orders? You, sir, are attempting to rewrite the historical timelines and lay fault where none can be found by any reasonable person.

Walz submitted his retirement papers well before his unit was notified that it would possibly deploy. He had already retired two months before the announcement that his former unit had been selected to deploy.

These are the resource notes from PBS and Fox:

"Walz retired from the Minnesota National Guard in May 2005. He had submitted retirement paperwork five to seven months beforehand, Fox News reported, citing the Minnesota National Guard.

"In March 2005, Walz’s battalion had been notified about a possible deployment to Iraq within two years, Walz’s congressional campaign said in a news release that month, citing the National Guard Public Affairs Office. The Minnesota National Guard said the battalion then received an official order about mobilizing for deployment to Iraq in July 2005, after Walz retired.

"Vance’s statement misleads by distorting the timeline. Walz had not been “asked by his country to go to Iraq,” as Vance said. He had been given a two-year window for a potential, not definite, deployment. And the official deployment notice came after Walz’s retirement.

"Walz has said since before his Army retirement that he left to run for Congress. He filed his candidacy paperwork in February 2005, before the March 2005 notification about the potential deployment."

A person of sound mind and knowledge of the timing of this event would recognize that a career change such as the one Walz made was not because of some alleged abandonment of service to avoid combat, as you imply.

The rest of your statements are biased and pejorative prejudicial remarks.

 

[Comshaw]

I Asked Veterans To Anonymously Share If They're Voting For Kamala Harris Or Donald Trump — Here's What They Revealed

We received hundreds of responses, and our poll found that 82.1% of veteran respondents support Kamala Harris for president.

15.7% expressed support for Donald Trump.

Hmmmmm...


Comshaw

 

[Bn2f]

Your anger is misplaced regarding Walz. The timeline of his military retirement makes your statements baseless. PBS.org even quoted a Fox News statement about this matter. I've included a few paragraphs below for your review. ['If it's Fox, it's got to be right!']

He left the unit before the notification to deploy came. Do you fault him for not re-enlisting and then going with them? Are you mad because he left service to run for Congress without any knowledge of upcoming deployment orders? You, sir, are attempting to rewrite the historical timelines and lay fault where none can be found by any reasonable person.

Walz submitted his retirement papers well before his unit was notified that it would possibly deploy. He had already retired two months before the announcement that his former unit had been selected to deploy.

These are the resource notes from PBS and Fox:

"Walz retired from the Minnesota National Guard in May 2005. He had submitted retirement paperwork five to seven months beforehand, Fox News reported, citing the Minnesota National Guard.

"In March 2005, Walz’s battalion had been notified about a possible deployment to Iraq within two years, Walz’s congressional campaign said in a news release that month, citing the National Guard Public Affairs Office. The Minnesota National Guard said the battalion then received an official order about mobilizing for deployment to Iraq in July 2005, after Walz retired.

"Vance’s statement misleads by distorting the timeline. Walz had not been “asked by his country to go to Iraq,” as Vance said. He had been given a two-year window for a potential, not definite, deployment. And the official deployment notice came after Walz’s retirement.

"Walz has said since before his Army retirement that he left to run for Congress. He filed his candidacy paperwork in February 2005, before the March 2005 notification about the potential deployment."

A person of sound mind and knowledge of the timing of this event would recognize that a career change such as the one Walz made was not because of some alleged abandonment of service to avoid combat, as you imply.

The rest of your statements are biased and pejorative prejudicial remarks.

Ican knows all of this. Like trump’s visit to Arlington and happenstance misfortune to be recorded in Section 60 , it’s not been about reverence to any of our fallen military - it’s about getting dear leader back into the highest office.

Ican’s criticism of Walz here comes because he saw an opportunity to do so.

 

[dmallord]

Agree.

Strongly disagree.

Agree.

Strongly disagree.

We are inherently polarized. I'm sick and tired of folks, especially politicians, promising to unite Americans. It's never going to happen while people are people. That doesn't mean you can't help people on the other side of the aisle, but you don't have to respect ANYONE.

Yeah... BUT... respect gets you more dates when you demonstrate you know what it is and share it. Have you ever seen a girl smile when you offer to open the door for her instead of just standing there and letting her open it herself?

If a person seems unworthy of respect, one doesn't have to respond in like measure. One could just be 'tempered' and count to ten, as an old saying goes.

 

[icanhelp1]

I respect people who disagree with me. I disagree with others here on this forum all the time (see my recent posts regarding Kamala's phony accent for one example). That doesn't mean I don't respect those I disagree with.

OTOH, I don't respect those who have proven they aren't worthy of my respect. These are the people who spread lies, hatred, division, and who support others who do the same because they get pleasure out of the cruelty of doing so.

Guess which list you made it onto.

OOH! OOH! I know! I know! Not really funny, actually it’s really sad. So much hatred!

What you don’t see is incessant vile criticism of Biden but every other post Trump is constantly and consistently vilified.

 

[RoryN]

So much hatred!

Hatred like this?

I wonder if it's all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000

blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

Post in thread 'If America Is Racist, Why Have Millions of Blacks Emigrated Here?' https://forum.literotica.com/thread...f-blacks-emigrated-here.1547263/post-93907526

 

[Bray123]

If we're not allowed to disrespect someone for their convictions, their mocking of the military, the disabled, other ethnicities, genders, threats against judges, juries, witnesses, endless boasts and lies, what's left?

 

[icanhelp1]

Hatred like this?



Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000



Post in thread 'If America Is Racist, Why Have Millions of Blacks Emigrated Here?' https://forum.literotica.com/thread...f-blacks-emigrated-here.1547263/post-93907526

56,091

 

[RoryN]

+2 Reaction Score from members who agree that I'm a racist.

fyp. yw.

 

[subdudeme13]

Hatred like this?



Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000



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I am sure these are great post but I am ignoring someone. I understand, other than disinformation, ignoring MAGAts is the best thing to do. We should also enjoy a little humor on their behalf rather than ridicule them. MAGAts are after all, Patriots. No?