Disrespect for the Dead in Arlington National Cemetery

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How can any Veteran support this deplorable?


https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s...ebVTvJs8n5Y-Xy5O6w_aem_tEcuwgFp1jaodaX7rClVJg

 

[Escierto]

On many occasions the Orange Jesus has referred to members of the military as losers. Of course he is a five time draft dodger so would you expect anything else from this POS?

 

[Lazaran]

The Bible is just a prop in a DonOld Drumpf propaganda video / photo shoot, and the hallowed ground of Arlington National Cemetery is just a prime location for a DonOld Drumpf propaganda video / photo shoot.

There is no bottom.

 

[adrina]

"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

 

[LLCox]

trump is a piece of shit, daily.

 

[HisArpy]

I don't get it. Obviously Trump was present at the wreath ceremony. There were cameras there to record the event as he participated in it. As we all know, currently he's not a public official and is running for political office.

How does this comport with the purported restriction against photography/filming and/or political purposes when it was obviously allowed during the ceremony?

I think someone with too much self importance got too far out over their skis and this "incident" is now being used for political purposes against Trump.

Which violates Federal law.

 

[ll74]

I don't get it. Obviously Trump was present at the wreath ceremony. There were cameras there to record the event as he participated in it. As we all know, currently he's not a public official and is running for political office.

How does this comport with the purported restriction against photography/filming and/or political purposes when it was obviously allowed during the ceremony?

I think someone with too much self importance got too far out over their skis and this "incident" is now being used for political purposes against Trump.

Which violates Federal law.

Based on my understanding, the 45 campaign was there filming and photographing. That would be against the law, as the officials mentioned as quoted above.

 

[Bray123]

Federal Law? How about the Constitution.

Section3​

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Singing along with the Insurrectionist's Choir and promising the convicts pardons if elected certainly counts as 'comfort'.

 

[HisArpy]

Based on my understanding, the 45 campaign was there filming and photographing. That would be against the law, as the officials mentioned as quoted above.

Again, the ceremony was filmed and photographed. How could that not be political since Trump isn't an official? AFAIK Trump has no right to participate in the ceremony even as an ex President (I could be wrong about that, if so the someone please enlighten me with facts and citation to the law. Skip the BS & hyperbole).

That indicates either the law doesn't really say what it's alluded to saying, or the Trump campaign has authorization to photograph and film. (BTW, doesn't this sound EXACTLY like the claims made by some music artists that Trump didn't have permission when we now know he actually did have permission to play their music?)

So I stick by my statement that someone with too much self importance (ie; a Karen) got too far out over their skis. The result is the Left is trying to use this for political purposes. Which might violate the Federal law being referenced.

 

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when it was obviously allowed during the ceremony?

No where have I ever seen a family cemetery picture with anyone giving a big ol smile and a thumb's up.Full stop. Just look at that...and you';re not allowed to What if or read anything else in.

I trust the staff at the Cemetery to understand protocol and decorum better than anyone.

 

[HisArpy]

No where have I ever seen a family cemetery picture with anyone giving a big ol smile and a thumb's up.Full stop. Just look at that...and you';re not allowed to What if or read anything else in.

I trust the staff at the Cemetery to understand protocol and decorum better than anyone.

Have you actually SEEN such a photograph from the Trump people?

 

[Treeview]

Have you actually SEEN such a photograph from the Trump people?

I saw a couple of the family pics associated with this issue.

Very disrespectful pose and grin

 

[ll74]

Again, the ceremony was filmed and photographed. How could that not be political since Trump isn't an official? AFAIK Trump has no right to participate in the ceremony even as an ex President (I could be wrong about that, if so the someone please enlighten me with facts and citation to the law. Skip the BS & hyperbole).

The campaign was doing the photography and video. To be used by the campaign for their political purposes

That is the issue.

That the ex president was photographed or recorded is not

That indicates either the law doesn't really say what it's alluded to saying, or the Trump campaign has authorization to photograph and film. (BTW, doesn't this sound EXACTLY like the claims made by some music artists that Trump didn't have permission when we now know he actually did have permission to play their music?)

So I stick by my statement that someone with too much self importance (ie; a Karen) got too far out over their skis. The result is the Left is trying to use this for political purposes. Which might violate the Federal law being referenced.

The Arlington cemetery officials are quoted. They filed a report and they did not elaborate except for recite the law which they I sisted was shared with the campaign

 

[HisArpy]

I saw a couple of the family pics associated with this issue.

Very disrespectful pose and grin

And those pics were used for political purposes?

 

[HisArpy]

The campaign was doing the photography and video. To be used by the campaign for their political purposes

How is it that the campaign was able to photograph/video the ceremony for political purposes in the first place?

You just skip over that part.

 

[ll74]

How is it that the campaign was able to photograph/video the ceremony for political purposes in the first place?

I haven't read the report, but would be interested in that as well.

You just skip over that part.

No, you assume that officials allowed it rather than campaign officials doing it without getting permission.

The remarks by the Arlington officials suggest the latter. I haven't seen comments from anyone suggesting otherwise.

 

[HisArpy]

I haven't read the report, but would be interested in that as well.


No, you assume that officials allowed it rather than campaign officials doing it without getting permission.

The remarks by the Arlington officials suggest the latter. I haven't seen comments from anyone suggesting otherwise.

WTF?

How the hell does a civilian get to be part of the official laying of the wreath ceremony without someone authorizing it?

Seriously, did you think about that at all? Or are you just doing your usual "I'm going to act like a dumfuk to get attention" routine?

Someone had to allow Trump to participate. Presumably that someone also authorized the campaign recording Trump as part of the ceremony. Ergo, THEY HAD PERMISSION.

You not believing that smacks of disingenuousness on your part because NO ADULT would not understand that. Unless said "adult" was doing the aforementioned "I'm going to act like a dumfuck to get attention" routine.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Hasn't Lit already filled its quota of sealions? Sheesh.

 

[HisArpy]

Hasn't Lit already filled its quota of sealions? Sheesh.

Sealion was the word of the day 2 days ago. Didn't you get the memo to tear off the page yet?

 

[jaF0]

There MAY be more to the story.

There MAY have been a formal complaint/report filed

There MAY have been a violation of federal law.


" "Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," it added. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

Title 32, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Section 553.32(c) states: "Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political activities." "

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...gate-bombing-support-victims-families-1945257

rump takes heat for reported clash, photos at Arlington National Cemetery. Here's what we know​

Penn Live|3 hours ago
The president's team has hit back at the accusation that it was involved in a physical altercation with a cemetery official.

rump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery​

Jefferson Public Radio|6 hours ago
The cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried, a source with knowledge of the event told NPR.

 

[HisArpy]

There MAY be more to the story.

There MAY have been a formal complaint/report filed

There MAY have been a violation of federal law.


" "Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," it added. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."

Title 32, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Section 553.32(c) states: "Memorial services and ceremonies at Army National Military Cemeteries will not include partisan political activities." "

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...gate-bombing-support-victims-families-1945257

rump takes heat for reported clash, photos at Arlington National Cemetery. Here's what we know​

Penn Live|3 hours ago
The president's team has hit back at the accusation that it was involved in a physical altercation with a cemetery official.

rump campaign staff had altercation with official at Arlington National Cemetery​

Jefferson Public Radio|6 hours ago
The cemetery official tried to prevent Trump staffers from filming and photographing in a section where recent U.S. casualties are buried, a source with knowledge of the event told NPR.

I get videos on my video feed where these "auditors" go around causing all kinds of trouble so they can sue for civil rights violations. They go to public buildings and record inside the building. They've done their research and are within "the rules" for doing what they're doing. It's a very carefully created setup. Bait.

Almost every time some Karen accosts them and tries to say they're breaking the law by recording inside the building. When shown a copy of the "the rules" for doing it, the Karen's never accept that what the "auditors" are doing is allowed. Instead they call the cops, some of whom are Karens themselves, and the "auditor" gets illegally "detained". Or the Karen physically assaults/batters them.

And that's how the "auditors" make a living. In very large dollars.

Which is in the "neat story bro" category and I'm sure some Karen here on the board is going to come along and wonder what it has to do with what happened at Arlington National Cemetery. The connection between the 2 events should be obvious, some Karen at the cemetery didn't know her burro from a burrow and decided to press the issue herself instead of checking with her supervisor first.

The result is that we now have a politically based controversy where one side automatically blames the other because Trump. Which is EXACTLY where the Karens in both this story and on my video feed went wrong in the first place.

 

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Gold Star Families Still Waiting to Hear From Biden, Harris​

VICTORY GIRLS 9:20 AM | August 28, 2024

Color me not at all shocked. The Gold Star Families of the thirteen service members killed at Abbey Gate have not been contacted by the meat puppets in the White House. Not one time in the past three years have Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Lloyd Austin, or any of the other anime avatars in this administration contacted the families of those killed or those grievously wounded. Why would they? They were the people Joe Biden called “stupid bastards”.

 

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@KnotMore If you zoom out for the bigger picture you;ll find this from a link in the article

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...hecking-claims-biden-called-troops-stupid-ba/

 

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