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Chobham said:
For you legal geeks. There is currently a case before the 11th circuit concerning short barreled rifles in which the DOJ is relying on US v Miller (1939) and are arguing that the second amendment only protects firearms that have legitimate military usefulness. Of course that has been my argument for years now, good to see the government agrees with me. :D
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So the gov is arguing in FAVOR of AR's?

Well I didn't have that on my bingo card...
 
Chobham said:
For you legal geeks. There is currently a case before the 11th circuit concerning short barreled rifles in which the DOJ is relying on US v Miller (1939) and are arguing that the second amendment only protects firearms that have legitimate military usefulness. Of course that has been my argument for years now, good to see the government agrees with me. :D
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The left is stupid in its understanding of the law v the Second Amendment. US v Miller (1939) may itself now be unconstitutional under Bruen and its application of text as informed by history and tradition. We should note that the Thompson submachine gun could be purchased over the counter in the US prior to Miller.
 
Rightguide said:
The left is stupid in its understanding of the law v the Second Amendment. US v Miller (1939) may itself now be unconstitutional under Bruen and its application of text as informed by history and tradition. We should note that the Thompson submachine gun could be purchased over the counter in the US prior to Miller.
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The Left will do/say anything, even if it directly contradicts what they just said, in order to get gun control past the courts.

The reason they're successful is 2-fold. Courts aren't experts so they don't know when expert witnesses are lying to them; and they have personal/political biases.
 
HisArpy said:
The Left will do/say anything, even if it directly contradicts what they just said, in order to get gun control past the courts.

The reason they're successful is 2-fold. Courts aren't experts so they don't know when expert witnesses are lying to them; and they have personal/political biases.
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All true. Now at least regulators, under the new Chevron ruling will face court challenges to any attempt on their part to exceed their legislated authority when attempting to expand their rule-making beyond those limits.
 
Rightguide said:
All true. Now at least regulators, under the new Chevron ruling will face court challenges to any attempt on their part to exceed their legislated authority when attempting to expand their rule-making beyond those limits.
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Think ole "Kneepad" Harris is going to make 'common sense' gun control part of her platform? :rolleyes:
 
I know that Miller natters about legitimate military purpose, and that "legitimate sporting purpose" comes up in discussion when they start to clamp down on stuff by ratcheting up the ban talk. But I'm wondering if the proper question shouldn't be about any militia purpose. I know, we have no formal militias really, but we should, even if it's just a formalized neighborhood watch.
 
https://www.nssf.org/articles/vice-...ween President,-15-style semiautomatic rifles.


JULY 23, 2024

VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS OWNS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION’S HOSTILITIES TOWARDS FIREARM INDUSTRY​

The forces pushing in on President Joe Biden and hastening him to quit the 2024 presidential campaign won. Now all eyes and attention are turned toward Vice President Kamala Harris to pick up the torch. She’s the presumptive Democratic nominee until things are finalized at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago next month, but all signs point to her coronation as the Democratic candidate to challenge Republican nominee and former President Donald Trump in November.

Sure, there are some significant differences between President Biden and Vice President Harris. Most notably age, gender and race, but on policies – specifically the Second Amendment – Vice President Harris owns the entire failed and horrendous record she helped push along during the three and a half years of the Biden administration. And she could be even worse.

From the president deeming the entire firearm industry – all 384,000 hardworking and proud Americans employed in it – as the “enemy” in 2019, to his gun control executive actions and the creation of The White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention (headed up by Vice President Harris herself) to push gun control propaganda and all the way to repeating his call to ban the most popular-selling centerfire semiautomatic rifle in the country following a failed assassination attempt on former President Trump by a disturbed individual not two weeks ago, Vice President Harris has been in lockstep with President Biden with no daylight in between.

Gun Rights ‘Astroturf’ & ‘Façade’​

It’s astonishing to think that Vice President Harris is on the cusp of being elevated to the Democratic nominee for President of the United States without ever receiving a single vote in a Democratic primary election for president. Remember, following a disastrous primary debate and national polling that placed her around 1 percent, she dropped her own 2019 candidacy to be president before the Iowa caucuses and first primary elections.


Source indicates yes . . . .
 
It was a rhetorical question anyway.

Considering she can't do a damn thing about it, what's her plan for packing the court?
 
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