Why Biden Will Win

[AlexBailey]

I was raised with the very clear expectation that voting was not optional. If you didn't vote, you don't get to complain. While I realize that it's a bit late for that tactic, the reality is that voting can be a very selfish act. In this instance, you realize that you are voting for self preservation. That you don't want the country to have to withstand the instability of more Trump, more conservative SCOTUS justices etc.

Honestly, it's bigger than "Grandpa Joe". It's about the kids themselves. I don't know how strong their sense of self preservation is but that's what voting is about. If they ever want to see it turned around, voting is the easiest option. Burning it down to the ground won't bring what they need.

I'm not being flippant.

I’m not the one who needs convincing. They are the target voters - the Zs.

They’ve spent a lot of their adult lives under Covid restrictions, student loan debates, they see climate change as something we have to live with more than something to prevent. They lived through the Trump years without being particularly aware of what was happening before them.

They blame the current administration for enabling a lot of what’s happening in Gaza.

Know your audience.

 

[butters]

and the kids need to hear that unless they help deliver the house, senate and presidency to dems then their future is totally fucked.

 

[AlexBailey]

and the kids need to hear that unless they help deliver the house, senate and presidency to dems then their future is totally fucked.

First you need to convince them it isn’t fucked either way. It’s not as clear to them as you may hope.

 

[Saint_Ann]

I'm sure the Zs didn't watch the debate.

 

[adrina]

I’m not the one who needs convincing. They are the target voters - the Zs.

They’ve spent a lot of their adult lives under Covid restrictions, student loan debates, they see climate change as something we have to live with more than something to prevent. They lived through the Trump years without being particularly aware of what was happening before them.

They blame the current administration for enabling a lot of what happening in Gaza.

Know your audience.

Yup. I understand.

The reality is that if Trump gets in that all of the issues they care about will be far worse. On every level. To a shocking degree. Again, voting is an act of self preservation. If they are worried about the environment, the economy, Palestine, student loans - the GOP will effectively screw them at every turn on those issues. And further, the GOP WANTS to screw them on those issues. Willfully.

I'm not sure what you have done to clarify their responsibilities as well as help them filter the information but please keep trying. Easier said than done, but they're not my kids.

Maybe turn them on to Adam Mockler or Luke Beasley? They're younger and fact oriented.

 

[jaF0]

I’m struggling to convince my kids that voting is worthwhile. They have seen courts over rule voter initiatives and established law. They’ve seen shenanigans and fraud by politicians of every stripe.

This is exactly why it's so important to vote. Many state and local Judges are elected. Those that are not are appointed by politicians who are elected.

 

[jaF0]

And remember, if kids don't vote and the wrong people get in office, they may not be able to vote later.

 

[AlexBailey]

And remember, if kids don't vote and the wrong people get in office, they may not be able to vote later.

They already believe that we live in a corporate owned political system. It’s very difficult to prove otherwise.

 

[jaF0]

Be a parent.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Illegals voting

Nope

dead people voting

Nope

Malfunctioning ballot machines in heavy red areas.

Nope

Ballot harvesting

Nope

Also, the brainwashed people told that its okay to be invaded by criminals, barely be able to afford to eat, be at war all over the world, have our enemies growing stronger and uniting, because if you care about those things you're a fascist.

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Hope that helps. Delusional paranoia is a terrible thing.

 

[jaF0]

Also, the brainwashed people told that its okay to be invaded by criminals, barely be able to afford to eat, be at war all over the world, have our enemies growing stronger and uniting, because if you care about those things you're a fascist.

Brainwashed you say?

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[adrina]

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I’m not making any predictions or bets on the presidential election but I am following the betting odds. Is anyone here placing bets and if so, which platform are you using?

 

[AlexBailey]

Be a parent.

Oh, I’d love to hear what this means to you in regards to politics and self sufficient kids who are in their mid 20s.

 

[Chernosoth]

There are far too many variables and too much time ahead to make a bet now. Biden might be persuaded to drop out, or he might die of "covid." Any of the six candidates could have "accidents" with guns or cameras. Mrs. Clinton could step in and then be taken down by old Epstein crap. And public opinion may shift on anything from climate change to hair.

 

[HisArpy]

This thread smells like desperation and self deception.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They already believe that we live in a corporate owned political system. It’s very difficult to prove otherwise.

Not caving to the rich donors who want to overturn the primary is a good start.

 

[Lazaran]

Illegals voting
dead people voting
Malfunctioning ballot machines in heavy red areas.
Ballot harvesting

Also, the brainwashed people told that its okay to be invaded by criminals, barely be able to afford to eat, be at war all over the world, have our enemies growing stronger and uniting, because if you care about those things you're a fascist.

A 2000 Mules fan, eh?

Is it even legal to be a 2000 Mules fan after the courts forced it to be pulled from circulation for being so inaccurate and defamatory, and after Dinesh D’Souza was forced to APOLOGIZE for the slanderous LIES contained in that piece of yellow journalism???



I wonder if Lovescrap68 will APOLOGIZE for spreading those slanderous LIES and pull their comment from circulation???

 

[Lazaran]

Not caving to the rich donors who want to overturn the primary is a good start.

The quote:

“Republicans have no soul - Democrats have no spine.”

The donor class is counting on both of those things being true.

I intend to see the donor class proven wrong on the latter.

 

[RandyRebecca]

The way I look at it, going by the interactive maps, the best realistic scenario for Biden in the electoral college is him winning 270-268, so Biden has a very narrow path to victory in the electoral college. If Biden melts down and has a disaster, Trump could win 40 states and get as many as 408 electoral votes to Biden's 130.

In the best case for Biden scenario, where he wins 270-268:
Biden wins: HI, CA, OR, WA, CO, NM, NE-02, MN, WI, IL, MI, PA, NY, ME, VT, NH, MA, CT, RI, NJ, DE, VA, MD and DC
Trump wins: AK, ID, NV, UT, AZ, MT, WY, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX, IA, MO, AR, LA, MS, AL, GA, FL, NC, SC, TN, KY, WV, IN, OH, ME-02

In the best case for Trump scenario, Biden only wins HI, CA, WA, IL, VT, MA, CT, RI, DE, MD and DC

Imagine what would happen if it ends 269-269, which is actually possible if Trump won NE-02, while everything else is as I said in the best case Biden scenario.

 

[jomar]

Is it even legal to be a 2000 Mules fan after the courts forced it to be pulled from circulation for being so inaccurate and defamatory, and after Dinesh D’Souza was forced to APOLOGIZE for the slanderous LIES contained in that piece of yellow journalism???

Fair point

I wonder if Lovescrap68 will APOLOGIZE for spreading those slanderous LIES and pull their comment from circulation???

He can’t apologize for lying because he believes they’re the truth. He drank the orange kool aid

 

[ll74]

Not caving to the rich donors who want to overturn the primary is a good start.

I don't want to overturn the primary. I want Biden to realize he should step aside for a better candidate.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Not caving to the rich donors who want to overturn the primary is a good start.

Or caving to Democratic House members, Senators, and a former Democratic president. Biden is holding up his side of the bargain he made with Democratic primary voters.

 

[ShandyLeer]

Trump wants Biden to stay in.

Obama and Pelosi and Schumer want him to withdraw.

……..and those here most opposed to a Trump win are on the same page as who ?

 

[Chernosoth]

Biden lost the big donors, Congress Dems, pro-Biden media, etc. He lost everything a Dem needs to win.