So why did a right wing incel do it?

[adrina]

FBI probing motives, background of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the Western Pa. gunman behind Donald Trump assassination attempt​

Former classmates described Crooks as politically conservative and a 'loner.' Authorities believe the AR-15 he used belonged to his father.

A 2022 graduate of Bethel Park High School who worked as a dietary aide a local nursing and rehabilitation center, Crooks had no previous criminal history, almost no presence on social media, and lived about an hour away from the site of the shooting.

Former student Max R. Smith remembered Crooks as an intelligent classmate with conservative political leanings. Smith recalled participating in a mock debate in a course they took together, where their teacher posed questions on government policy and had students stand on opposite sides of the classroom to signal their support or opposition.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other. ... It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

https://www.inquirer.com/news/penns...-crooks-trump-shooter-id-butler-20240714.html

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

...doesn't explain the ActBlue donation, unless it really was a Reichstag moment.

 

[adrina]

...doesn't explain the ActBlue donation, unless it really was a Reichstag moment.

Could have been radicalized. Who knows. That was 3+ years ago.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Could have been radicalized. Who knows. That was 3+ years ago.

Possible. Neurotics do tend to shift ideologies at the drop of a hat.

 

[adrina]

Possible. Neurotics do tend to shift ideologies at the drop of a hat.

Radicalization doesn't happen at the drop of a hat.

 

[Lazaran]

Could have been radicalized. Who knows. That was 3+ years ago.

The young man also may not have even realized he was donating to a liberal cause back then: Someone might have just hit him up for a donation (he only donated one time) and he said wtf.

Now actually going through the steps to register as a "REPUBLICAN" takes a bit more commitment.

And the young man’s gun fetish certainly isn’t indicative of him being an anti-gun "liberal".

Just sayin'

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Radicalization doesn't happen at the drop of a hat.

Remarkably fast, actually. That's something that shocked me when I studied Islamic extremism. There are plenty of suicide bombers who were seen as having been moderate or even liberal/secular mere months before their deaths. A couple of my students ended up in ISIS or other such groups, and it always seemed like the quietest and friendliest ones who would go... though that's possibly just a case of me being a bad judge of character.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Probably one of those people the dems told to go register as a repub and vote against Trump in the primary. Thats a real thing. Just guessing.

Of course it’s real strategy that both parties use. However, by all accounts, you are mistaken.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Of course it’s real strategy that both parties use. However, by all accounts, you are mistaken.

I suspect that's probably the case. A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. A dem masquerading as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries tho, that was a Dem tactic and plenty did.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I suspect that's probably the case. A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. A dem masquerading as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries tho, that was a Dem tactic and plenty did.

You say that as if you really believe it with 100% certainty. Do you feel like you would know what every single Republican would or would not do?

As I said, both parties use that strategy, often.

 

[ChloeTzang]

You say that as if you really believe it with 100% certainty. Do you feel like you would know what every single Republican would or would not do?

As I said, both parties use that strategy, often.

In this case, it makes sense as an explanation, and we may even find out, altho I can't say I'd actually trust the FBI. Who should be disbanded and shut down anyhow.

At this point, it doesn't really matter anyhow. What's done is done. And Biden is done. He'll keep going to the end, but the Dems are folding like wet cardboard. He's going to be the candidate because no-one else wants to undertake a kamikaze career-ending run against Trump. Not even Harris now.

As a lot of commentary has already stated, this image is going to be the iconic image of the 2024 Presidential Election

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

I suspect that's probably the case. A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. A dem masquerading as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries tho, that was a Dem tactic and plenty did.

A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. Unless it's an Adam Kinzinger type who agrees with the man completely, but wants someone to engage in capitalist exploitation without being such an ass about it.

A neo-nazi/alt-righter/groyper might. Though, they've been incensed at him ever since the first airstrike in Syria and if one did attack then this will be the first case of it that I know of. More likely, one of them would take a shot at Jared Kushner.

A Ukrainian nationalist might do it because he's insufficiently loyal to Zelensky. He was on the Mirotvorets at one point, and I don't think they've ever took him off.

Mossad might do it. Trump's friend Bibi sent a Marinus van der Lubbe to be blamed for superficially maiming him. He gets the election in the bag, and he'll now whole-heartedly support the Zionist agenda in cleansing the Middle East of the Seed of Amelek. They don't even have to release the Donald-Ivanka tapes!

 

[Aglaopheme]

In this case, it makes sense as an explanation, and we may even find out, altho I can't say I'd actually trust the FBI. Who should be disbanded and shut down anyhow.

At this point, it doesn't really matter anyhow. What's done is done. And Biden is done. He'll keep going to the end, but the Dems are folding like wet cardboard. He's going to be the candidate because no-one else wants to undertake a kamikaze career-ending run against Trump. Not even Harris now.

As a lot of commentary has already stated, this image is going to be the iconic image of the 2024 Presidential Election

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Ha! You did it again. You’ve no idea if Biden is toast.

This will move the polls less than Biden’s performance at the debate.

 

[ChloeTzang]

A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. Unless it's an Adam Kinzinger type who agrees with the man completely, but wants him to engage in capitalist exploitation without being such an ass about it.

A neo-nazi/alt-righter/groyper might. Though, they've been incensed at him ever since the first airstrike in Syria and if one did attack then this will be the first case of it that I know of. More likely, one of them would take a shot at Jared Kushner.

A Ukrainian nationalist might do it because he's insufficiently loyal to Zelensky. He was on the Mirotvorets at one point, and I don't think they've ever took him off.

Mossad might do it. Trump's friend Bibi sent a Marinus van der Lubbe to be blamed for superficially maiming him. He gets the election in the bag, and he'll now whole-heartedly support the Zionist agenda in cleansing the Middle East of the Seed of Amelek. They don't even have to release the Donald-Ivanka tapes!

All outliers. Possible, but highly unlikely given we know who the shooter is.

 

[YDB95]

I suspect that's probably the case. A republican wouldn't assassinate Trump. A dem masquerading as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries tho, that was a Dem tactic and plenty did.

If "plenty did", then surely you can provide some evidence for that claim. Go ahead, we'll wait...

Oh, and a guy barely out of his teens whose father bought him an AR-15 is highly unlikely to be either a Democrat or politically savvy enough to think of joining the opposite party just to meddle. I'm not saying the latter doesn't happen, but it rarely if ever happens with guys like this.

 

[PaxNurgle]

In this case, it makes sense as an explanation, and we may even find out, altho I can't say I'd actually trust the FBI. Who should be disbanded and shut down anyhow.

At this point, it doesn't really matter anyhow. What's done is done. And Biden is done. He'll keep going to the end, but the Dems are folding like wet cardboard. He's going to be the candidate because no-one else wants to undertake a kamikaze career-ending run against Trump. Not even Harris now.

As a lot of commentary has already stated, this image is going to be the iconic image of the 2024 Presidential Election

View attachment 2365607

Images like this were also iconic in Germany in 1933-1939.
And remember, Americans- good Americans- sacrificed their lives in the name of Freedom, liberty and justice fighting against these ideas represented by that image.

And they will again. The arc of history always bends toward justice.
Your side lost in 1945. We are prepared to make sure your side loses again in 2024. Remember this, traitor.

 

[JohnEngelman]

In this case, it makes sense as an explanation, and we may even find out, altho I can't say I'd actually trust the FBI. Who should be disbanded and shut down anyhow.

At this point, it doesn't really matter anyhow. What's done is done. And Biden is done. He'll keep going to the end, but the Dems are folding like wet cardboard. He's going to be the candidate because no-one else wants to undertake a kamikaze career-ending run against Trump. Not even Harris now.

As a lot of commentary has already stated, this image is going to be the iconic image of the 2024 Presidential Election

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In that photo Trump looks arrogant and disgusting.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Images like this were also iconic in Germany in 1933-1939.
And remember, Americans- good Americans- sacrificed their lives in the name of Freedom, liberty and justice fighting against these ideas represented by that image.

And they will again. The arc of history always bends toward justice.
Your side lost in 1945. We are prepared to make sure your side loses again in 2024. Remember this, traitor.

Her side didn't lose in 1945. Her side back then was Poland, and, uh,

nevermind.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

. . . altho I can't say I'd actually trust the FBI . . . .

I'd almost sooner trust these guys:


https://global.discourse-cdn.com/business7/uploads/mst3k/original/3X/0/9/09516c3375e7ba6f8c280f7b8b6b027fda7b838a.jpeg

 

[ChloeTzang]

If "plenty did", then surely you can provide some evidence for that claim. Go ahead, we'll wait...

Oh, and a guy barely out of his teens whose father bought him an AR-15 is highly unlikely to be either a Democrat or politically savvy enough to think of joining the opposite party just to meddle. I'm not saying the latter doesn't happen, but it rarely if ever happens with guys like this.

The 'Republican' registration was for the primary in an open primary state. A lot of Democrats were switching party affiliation to vote for Haley to try and defeat Trump that way or have a contested convention…they were encouraged to do such and vote for Haley and it costs nothing there. If he was obsessed with Trump, unquestionably it would have been something he did to vote against Trump twice.

No 'republican' donates to Act Blue. He was a leftist with parents who are clueless. I go with the money.

Bottom line: liberals and the media fostered this with their hateful rhetoric and calling Trump Hitler and a threat to our democracy for years. End of story. This is on you and people who share your views and rhetoric. Waste of time for you to try and deny it so don't bother, and don't waste your time trying.

 

[Chobham]

The 'Republican' registration was for the primary in an open primary state. A lot of Democrats were switching party affiliation to vote for Haley to try and defeat Trump that way or have a contested convention…they were encouraged to do such and vote for Haley and it costs nothing there. If he was obsessed with Trump, unquestionably it would have been something he did to vote against Trump twice.

No 'republican' donates to Act Blue. He was a leftist with parents who are clueless. I go with the money.

Bottom line: liberals and the media fostered this with their hateful rhetoric and calling Trump Hitler and a threat to our democracy for years. End of story. This is on you and people who share your views and rhetoric. Waste of time for you to try and deny it so don't bother, and don't waste your time trying.

^^^^^This.

 

[eric_erosfan]

No matter how you try to spin this you will see this guy was a right wing incel gun nut like many of you on the politics board.

 

[Aglaopheme]

In that photo Trump looks arrogant and disgusting.

I bet he is pissed about the video of him being escorted to the car with his massive bald spot showing.

 

[coati]

Bottom line: liberals and the media fostered this with their hateful rhetoric and calling Trump Hitler and a threat to our democracy for years. End of story. This is on you and people who share your views and rhetoric. Waste of time for you to try and deny it so don't bother, and don't waste your time trying.

^^^Hot steamy bullshit.

The amateur with an AR did this. Adolph Trump set the stage with his glorification of guns as the instrument of political change.

 

[coati]

Trump is a "victim" of his own initiation, direction, and fomenting over the last half century of political violence. I don't condone it, but political violence and assassination of political figures are woven tightly in the fabric of the United States. I doubt Trump saw this coming, but only because he's woefully uneducated in American history (or much of anything else). Trump is a victim of it primarily because Trump initiates and uses it. He's nearly the last one I have sympathy for when he harvests what he sows.

He also shares with other Republicans the fact that a civilian is permitted access to an assault rifle. That's on him and other Republicans.

Well, that's obvious, but the term "victim" was not being used to express sympathy. People can become a victim of their own advocacy for violence.