Yes, you've said this before. Which makes every single position you have on the conflict irrelevant and full of shit.
If Hamas cared about civilians, they'd surrender and turn over all hostages.
Antisemitism on the left is a big problem. Coupling hating Israel to other progressive issues like LGBT rights and social justice weakens the entire movement at a time when unity is essential to fight the rise of fascism.Of course, the "conservative" shitposters are only trying to sow division among Democrats with their posts , and, because they hate Muslims slightly more than Jews, they are currently taking some additional sick, cynical joy from their divisive efforts.
Any other time those same "conservative” shitlposters would be chanting “Jews will not replace us”.
In this case, the enemy ("conservative" shitposters) of Israel’s enemy (Hamas), is NOT Israel’s friend.
JFC
SAD!!!
If they would've taken that position early on, it would be easy to pivot to Palestinian civilian deaths.Hamas is a reeeeeaaally shitty hill to die on for the progressive left.
A united condemnation of Hamas by the progressive left after 10/7, and a demand that the perpetrators surrender to Israeli or international authorities, coupled with a demand for the release of all hostages, would have been optimal.
The progressive left’s actual response was faaaaaar less than optimal.
They should be ashamed.
Side note:
The really fucked-up part of the whole situation, is that a group that isn’t progressive by almost every measure has managed to co-opt a large portion of the progressive left.
JFC
SAD!!!
The fascism is in your party. Wake up!
It's a degenerate jew hater
"Right"guide 
There is a possibility of this.
My dear friend, from the beginning the tourist attack on Oct 7, about 7000 children were killed, if one of them was your kid, do you still call these inecence kids as terrorist !!?
Are these kids terrorists? Just refer to your heart!
Lunatic
So now Hamas and Gaza are reaping the whirlwind of their suicidal perfidy. The numbers in Gaza are minuscule compared to the near half a million we introduced to the afterlife in Iraq alone.
I've seen this argument several times in this thread.
Whether the solution is likely or not is fully dependent on Hamas who has absolutely no interest in Gazan civilians, based on all actions. This should be done via political pressure by other country leaders but without such pressure, it is only accomplished by being forced to surrender via force.
And therein lies the rub....how to "put pressure" on Hamas?
Arab countries are the key.
I wouldn't actually know - none of these protests seem to give a rats ass about Hamas. I expect if Hamas was also protested against, then pressure might be visible..... But maybes it's just me
I don't think that's true. I think people need to focus on what's important. If casualties are your issue, the fastest and most effective method to end them is for Hamas to surrender. Israel will continue fighting because hostages are still held and Hamas leadership is still in place. They wouldn't have a valid reason to continue if those two things cease to exist.
That's a nonstarter. That isn't going to happen. Don't even try to include it as any part of a solution package. There are only two reality elements for Hamas in a solution that doesn't just go more or less back to pre-October status quo (which is the most likely result here): wipe out Hamas or include whatever's left of them in the control equation. Wiping them out is fine with me. The cost of doing so isn't fine.
Political pressure works. Israel has no reason to cease hostilities until Hamas is removed and hostages are returned.
