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[Rotadom]

Yeah; even though I believe Rob has lost objectivity and is biased on the whole Gaza situation

Rob isn't any less objective than you nor any more biased. You push HARD for Israel.

 

[Lazaran]

Rob isn't any less objective than you nor any more biased. You push HARD for Israel.

Wrong:

I push hard for the Hamas Animals to NOT get a free pass for October 7th.

I also push for NOT accepting numbers from "The HAMAS ministry of health".

Also:

The times I HAVE been PURPOSEFULLY zealous in my defense of Israel, I was attempting to make a point about how barbarically and zealously the pro-Palestinian side behaved in the IMMEDIATE aftermath of 10/7:

I saw almost ZERO condemnation of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation from the pro-Palestinian crowd. (I’m not going to do a search, but I don’t recall a single post from Rob, etc, strongly condemning the attack).

The pro-Palestinian crowd went into spin / propaganda mode IMMEDIATELY after the 10/7 attack: Rallies, celebrations, minimalizations, justifications, rationalizations, etc - very similar to how the MAGAts acted IMMEDIATELY after J/6. (Of course, the MAGAts whined and cried when the consequences started raining down on them for J/6; just like the pro-Palestinians whined and cried when the consequences started raining down on Gaza for 10/7.)

Deplorable.



Side note:

I have SERIOUSLY zealously advocated for Netanyahu being removed from office and tried for corruption.

I am NOT biased in favor of Israel, other than recognizing the ENTIRE history of the conflict, the Holocaust, and the wholly reasonable need for the existence of a Jewish State in the face of global anti-Semitism.

If ever a nation of one people / faith (in a majority) had "a right to exist", it would be the Jewish State of Israel (imho).

 

[KeithD]

Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu) and Pro Hamas are not the same thing at all--and I haven't seen much of anyone expressing Pro Hamas views on the board. (Of course I have those who are most extreme on ignore.)

 

[ll74]

Graham wants Israel to nuke Gaza

 

[Rotadom]

Wrong:

I push hard for the Hamas Animals to NOT get a free pass for October 7th.

I also push for NOT accepting numbers from "The HAMAS ministry of health".

Also:

The times I HAVE been PURPOSEFULLY zealous in my defense of Israel, I was attempting to make a point about how barbarically and zealously the pro-Palestinian side behaved in the IMMEDIATE aftermath of 10/7:

I saw almost ZERO condemnation of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation from the pro-Palestinian crowd. (I’m not going to do a search, but I don’t recall a single post from Rob, etc, strongly condemning the attack).

The pro-Palestinian crowd went into spin / propaganda mode IMMEDIATELY after the 10/7 attack: Rallies, celebrations, minimalizations, justifications, rationalizations, etc - very similar to how the MAGAts acted IMMEDIATELY after J/6. (Of course, the MAGAts whined and cried when the consequences started raining down on them for J/6; just like the pro-Palestinians whined and cried when the consequences started raining down on Gaza for 10/7.)

Deplorable.



Side note:

I have SERIOUSLY zealously advocated for Netanyahu being removed from office and tried for corruption.

I am NOT biased in favor of Israel, other than recognizing the ENTIRE history of the conflict, the Holocaust, and the wholly reasonable need for the existence of a Jewish State in the face of global anti-Semitism.

If ever a nation of one people / faith (in a majority) had "a right to exist", it would be the Jewish State of Israel (imho).

My objectiveness had upset you.

 

[snailspace]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790451547710603472

 

[snailspace]

If hamas doesn't care

Why should Israel

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790483461855117594

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790451547710603472

Idf release the footage, you say.

Interesting.

 

[ll74]

If hamas doesn't care

Why should Israel

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790483461855117594

Sounds like you think Israel should also be terrorists.

 

[Lazaran]

Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu) and Pro Hamas are not the same thing at all--and I haven't seen much of anyone expressing Pro Hamas views on the board. (Of course I have those who are most extreme on ignore.)

Except the SILENCE from the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu)” crowd in the aftermath (immediate and continuing) of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation was / is DEAFENING. (It smacked / smacks of complicity).

Also:

Many in the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu) “ crowd have done FAR more than just SILENTLY condone the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation: They have LOUDLY parroted Hamas talking points and spread Hamas propaganda. They have also deflected and distracted from the HEINOUS nature of the October 7th attack while simultaneously saddling Israel with TOTAL responsibility for "EVERYTHING" - a la Rashida Tlaib.

FUCK THAT ^ !!!

 

[Rightguide]

So the civilian death count is now 7,000+ Gazan children deaths instead of 13,000+. Is this supposed to make us all feel happy? That's still a rate of 1,000+ children per month killed as part of Israel's cowardly ethnic cleansing campaign.

There is no honor in killing innocent children.

WH: We Don't Believe Genocide Is Occurring in Gaza​

Monday, 13 May 2024 03:24 PM EDT

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Monday that President Joe Biden's administration did not view the killings of Palestinians in Gaza by Israel in its war with Hamas as a genocide.

Sullivan, speaking to reporters at the White House, said the United States wants to see Hamas defeated, that Palestinians caught in the middle of the war were in "hell," and that a major military operation by Israel in Rafah would be a mistake.

"We do not believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. We have been firmly on record rejecting that proposition," Sullivan said.

Biden, who is running for reelection this year, has faced heavy criticism from his own supporters domestically for his support of Israel; some of those critics have accused Israel of committing genocide. More than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died, according to Gaza health officials.

More refutation of Rob here: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/gaza-genocide/2024/05/13/id/1164543/

 

[ll74]

WH: We Don't Believe Genocide Is Occurring in Gaza​

Monday, 13 May 2024 03:24 PM EDT

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Monday that President Joe Biden's administration did not view the killings of Palestinians in Gaza by Israel in its war with Hamas as a genocide.

Sullivan, speaking to reporters at the White House, said the United States wants to see Hamas defeated, that Palestinians caught in the middle of the war were in "hell," and that a major military operation by Israel in Rafah would be a mistake.

"We do not believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. We have been firmly on record rejecting that proposition," Sullivan said.

Biden, who is running for reelection this year, has faced heavy criticism from his own supporters domestically for his support of Israel; some of those critics have accused Israel of committing genocide. More than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died, according to Gaza health officials.

More refutation of Rob here: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/gaza-genocide/2024/05/13/id/1164543/

I agree with the White House, though we won't know until long after this war is over.

 

[KeithD]

Except the SILENCE from the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu)” crowd in the aftermath (immediate and continuing) of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation was / is DEAFENING. (It smacked / smacks of complicity).

The tendency to gauge the degree of silence is to define it as it suits your predetermination.

My balance of views on this is as I expressed it. It was formed from forty-five years working the issue and living, off and on, in the region. I don't feel the obligation to repeatedly state it on a porn discussion board just to keep anyone else objective in their gauging of anything.

 

[Lazaran]

The tendency to gauge the degree of silence is to define it as it suits your predetermination.

Seriously???

 

[Rightguide]

Graham wants Israel to nuke Gaza

Iranian public official states Iran has nuclear bombs.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...nuclear-bombs-iranian-lawmaker-claims-report/

 

[ll74]

Iranian public official states Iran has nuclear bombs.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...nuclear-bombs-iranian-lawmaker-claims-report/

Thanks to 45.

 

[Rightguide]

So the civilian death count is now 7,000+ Gazan children deaths instead of 13,000+. Is this supposed to make us all feel happy? That's still a rate of 1,000+ children per month killed as part of Israel's cowardly ethnic cleansing campaign.

There is no honor in killing innocent children.

There's no honor or truth in puffing the numbers either.

 

[Lazaran]

Iranian public official states Iran has nuclear bombs.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...nuclear-bombs-iranian-lawmaker-claims-report/

Yep, that decision by the demented corrupt orange traitor to cancel the JCPOA was reeeeeeaaally dumb and dangerous.

It DEFINITELY accelerated the Iranian’s development of nuclear bomb making materials and technology.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Rightguide]

If hamas doesn't care

Why should Israel

https://twitter.com/x/status/1790483461855117594

You shouldn't be surprised the UN supports these terrorists.

 

[Rightguide]

Thanks to 45.

Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they funded it and looked the other way. They didn't have those weapons when Trump was President, He sanctioned the shit our of Iran and Joe dropped those sanctions.

 

[ll74]

Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they funded it and looked the other way. They didn't have those weapons when Trump was President, He sanctioned the shit our of Iran and Joe dropped those sanctions.

Nope. 44 delayed nuclear weapons thanks to the jcpoa. Once 45 withdrew, Iran went back to making their way to the bomb.

 

[Rightguide]

Nope. 44 delayed nuclear weapons thanks to the jcpoa. Once 45 withdrew, Iran went back to making their way to the bomb.

That's BS. Robert Malley the now-discovered Iranian agent was put on the US negotiation team by Barack Obama. That team and all that it didn't was the product of Iranian agents and stupid naïve Democrats like America hating John Kerry.

 

[ll74]

That's BS. Robert Malley the now-discovered Iranian agent was put on the US negotiation team by Barack Obama. That team and all that it didn't was the product of Iranian agents and stupid naïve Democrats like America hating John Kerry.

The IAEA had unfettered access to monitor production of nuclear material and they had actionable punishment of Iran if that access was violated.

They no longer do thanks to 45.

 

[KeithD]

Seriously???

You don't have a handle on what everyone thinks. You're responding on what you want to believe. Enough of this.

 

[Lazaran]

You don't have a handle on what everyone thinks. You're responding on what you want to believe. Enough of this.

Um, yeah,.."Enough of this".



My comments / responses were / are based on objective readings of other’s ACTUAL comments, and objective observations of other’s ACTUAL actions.



I give zero fucks what people "think" (secretly, apparently); I’m more focused on their ACTUAL words and actions.