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Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu) and Pro Hamas are not the same thing at all--and I haven't seen much of anyone expressing Pro Hamas views on the board. (Of course I have those who are most extreme on ignore.)

Except the SILENCE from the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu)” crowd in the aftermath (immediate and continuing) of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation was / is DEAFENING. (It smacked / smacks of complicity).

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Many in the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu) “ crowd have done FAR more than just SILENTLY condone the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation: They have LOUDLY parroted Hamas talking points and spread Hamas propaganda. They have also deflected and distracted from the HEINOUS nature of the October 7th attack while simultaneously saddling Israel with TOTAL responsibility for "EVERYTHING" - a la Rashida Tlaib.

FUCK THAT ^ !!!

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So the civilian death count is now 7,000+ Gazan children deaths instead of 13,000+. Is this supposed to make us all feel happy? That's still a rate of 1,000+ children per month killed as part of Israel's cowardly ethnic cleansing campaign.

There is no honor in killing innocent children.

WH: We Don't Believe Genocide Is Occurring in Gaza​

Monday, 13 May 2024 03:24 PM EDT

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Monday that President Joe Biden's administration did not view the killings of Palestinians in Gaza by Israel in its war with Hamas as a genocide.

Sullivan, speaking to reporters at the White House, said the United States wants to see Hamas defeated, that Palestinians caught in the middle of the war were in "hell," and that a major military operation by Israel in Rafah would be a mistake.

"We do not believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. We have been firmly on record rejecting that proposition," Sullivan said.

Biden, who is running for reelection this year, has faced heavy criticism from his own supporters domestically for his support of Israel; some of those critics have accused Israel of committing genocide. More than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died, according to Gaza health officials.

More refutation of Rob here: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/gaza-genocide/2024/05/13/id/1164543/
 

WH: We Don't Believe Genocide Is Occurring in Gaza​

Monday, 13 May 2024 03:24 PM EDT

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan said on Monday that President Joe Biden's administration did not view the killings of Palestinians in Gaza by Israel in its war with Hamas as a genocide.

Sullivan, speaking to reporters at the White House, said the United States wants to see Hamas defeated, that Palestinians caught in the middle of the war were in "hell," and that a major military operation by Israel in Rafah would be a mistake.

"We do not believe what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. We have been firmly on record rejecting that proposition," Sullivan said.

Biden, who is running for reelection this year, has faced heavy criticism from his own supporters domestically for his support of Israel; some of those critics have accused Israel of committing genocide. More than 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died, according to Gaza health officials.

More refutation of Rob here: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/gaza-genocide/2024/05/13/id/1164543/
I agree with the White House, though we won't know until long after this war is over.
 
Except the SILENCE from the “Pro Palestinian (or somewhat more so than Pro Israel and a lot more than Pro Netanyahu)” crowd in the aftermath (immediate and continuing) of the Hamas animal’s October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation was / is DEAFENING. (It smacked / smacks of complicity).



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The tendency to gauge the degree of silence is to define it as it suits your predetermination.

My balance of views on this is as I expressed it. It was formed from forty-five years working the issue and living, off and on, in the region. I don't feel the obligation to repeatedly state it on a porn discussion board just to keep anyone else objective in their gauging of anything.
 
So the civilian death count is now 7,000+ Gazan children deaths instead of 13,000+. Is this supposed to make us all feel happy? That's still a rate of 1,000+ children per month killed as part of Israel's cowardly ethnic cleansing campaign.

There is no honor in killing innocent children.
There's no honor or truth in puffing the numbers either.
 
Thanks to 45.
Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they funded it and looked the other way. They didn't have those weapons when Trump was President, He sanctioned the shit our of Iran and Joe dropped those sanctions.
 
Thanks to Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they funded it and looked the other way. They didn't have those weapons when Trump was President, He sanctioned the shit our of Iran and Joe dropped those sanctions.
Nope. 44 delayed nuclear weapons thanks to the jcpoa. Once 45 withdrew, Iran went back to making their way to the bomb.
 
Nope. 44 delayed nuclear weapons thanks to the jcpoa. Once 45 withdrew, Iran went back to making their way to the bomb.
That's BS. Robert Malley the now-discovered Iranian agent was put on the US negotiation team by Barack Obama. That team and all that it didn't was the product of Iranian agents and stupid naïve Democrats like America hating John Kerry.
 
That's BS. Robert Malley the now-discovered Iranian agent was put on the US negotiation team by Barack Obama. That team and all that it didn't was the product of Iranian agents and stupid naïve Democrats like America hating John Kerry.
The IAEA had unfettered access to monitor production of nuclear material and they had actionable punishment of Iran if that access was violated.

They no longer do thanks to 45.
 
You don't have a handle on what everyone thinks. You're responding on what you want to believe. Enough of this.

Um, yeah,.."Enough of this".

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My comments / responses were / are based on objective readings of other’s ACTUAL comments, and objective observations of other’s ACTUAL actions.

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I give zero fucks what people "think" (secretly, apparently); I’m more focused on their ACTUAL words and actions.

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Um, yeah,.."Enough of this".

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My comments / responses were / are based on objective readings of other’s ACTUAL comments, and objective observations of other’s ACTUAL actions.

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I give zero fucks what people "think" (secretly, apparently); I’m more focused on their ACTUAL words and actions.

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So, in your reading, did you decide I wasn't anti Hamas enough? I think probably so, and I think that points to how badly you made an observation that suited you rather than what is true for a large number of posters here.

No one owes you to weigh in on the full extent of their opinions of such an issue on a porn board to keep you from making false sweeping generalizations.
 
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If you believe in scripture this land has been in war thousands of years B.C.


Nothing will change, no matter who you support
 
My objectiveness had upset you. 😕

And by “upset”, you must mean - “required me to set the record straight”…

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Side note:

I have yet to see any real outrage or condemnation directed at the Hamas animal’s for the October 7th rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation from the Pro-Palestinian crowd. (See also: Rashida Tlaib.)

That ^ is why the Pro-Palestinian crowd has largely lost me.

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So - NOT “upset”.

More like - “disappointed that some generally decent people are behaving like Deplorables in this instance for some reason.”

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So, in your reading, did you decide I wasn't anti Hamas enough? I think probably so, and I think that points to how badly you made an observation that suited you rather than what is true for a large number of posters here.

No one owes you to weigh in on the full extent of their opinions of such an issue on a porn board to keep you from making false sweeping generalizations.

I never really considered you part of the “Pro-Palestinian” at any and all costs crowd.

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I also don’t remember you posting "The Hamas ministry of health" death counts or Hamas propaganda. (Am I wrong on this point?)

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From my recollection, you condemned the Hamas animals 10/7 attack, but rationalized about it being justified to an extent.

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I do remember you mentioning being stationed in the region, and that you saw / knew the way things worked, which apparently grants you some authority to give the Pro-Palestinian at any and all costs crowd a free pass for condoning (at the very least) a 9/11 type attack on Israel.

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So - NOT “upset”.

More like - “disappointed that some generally decent people are behaving like Deplorables in this instance for some reason.”

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It’s ironic that basic concepts of social justice on the left go completely out the window when Jews are involved.

People who would never think to lecture a black person about racism, will smugly explain to Jews their fears of antisemitism are exaggerated.
 
It’s ironic that basic concepts of social justice on the left go completely out the window when Jews are involved.

People who would never think to lecture a black person about racism, will smugly explain to Jews their fears of antisemitism are exaggerated.

What’s even more amazing, is the fact that they truly don’t seem to recognize what they’re doing.

A blind spot (hopefully that’s all it is), for sure.

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