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The only thing that might help to stave it off is their lack of a work ethic.
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I'd be inclined to call it a lack of ethics in general.
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I shoot my rifle to shoot my rifle . . . .
A Zen Teacher saw five of his students return from the market, riding their bicycles. When they had dismounted, the teacher asked the students,
“Why are you riding your bicycles?”
The first student replied, “The bicycle is carrying this sack of potatoes. I am glad that I do not have to carry them on my back!”
The teacher praised the student, saying, “You are a smart boy. When you grow old, you will not walk hunched over, as I do.”
The second student replied, “I love to watch the trees and fields pass by as I roll down the path.”
The teacher commended the student, “Your eyes are open and you see the world.”
The third student replied, “When I ride my bicycle, I am content to chant, nam myoho renge kyo.”
The teacher gave praise to the third student, “Your mind will roll with the ease of a newly trued wheel.”
The fourth student answered, “Riding my bicycle, I live in harmony with all beings.”
The teacher was pleased and said, “You are riding on the golden path of non-harming.”
The fifth student replied, “I ride my bicycle to ride my bicycle.”
The teacher went and sat at the feet of the fifth student, and said, “I am your disciple.”
A Zen Teacher saw five of his students return from the market, riding their bicycles. When they had dismounted, the teacher asked the students,
“Why are you riding your bicycles?”
The first student replied, “The bicycle is carrying this sack of potatoes. I am glad that I do not have to carry them on my back!”
The teacher praised the student, saying, “You are a smart boy. When you grow old, you will not walk hunched over, as I do.”
The second student replied, “I love to watch the trees and fields pass by as I roll down the path.”
The teacher commended the student, “Your eyes are open and you see the world.”
The third student replied, “When I ride my bicycle, I am content to chant, nam myoho renge kyo.”
The teacher gave praise to the third student, “Your mind will roll with the ease of a newly trued wheel.”
The fourth student answered, “Riding my bicycle, I live in harmony with all beings.”
The teacher was pleased and said, “You are riding on the golden path of non-harming.”
The fifth student replied, “I ride my bicycle to ride my bicycle.”
The teacher went and sat at the feet of the fifth student, and said, “I am your disciple.”
OK, I whipped out the ole calculator for one load. A Hornady 134 gr. match bullet launched at 3000 fps (this can be achieved without going to max. load.). Without dumping the entire table, the bullet will still be supersonic at 1300 yds with a drop of 34.16 inches. It's still supersonic at 1400 yds but just barely. The BC for this particular bullet is .645.
The 6.5 Creed with the Hornady 147 gr match bullet can be launched at 2650 fps without going to max. load. It is still supersonic at 1400, close to the edge but not as close as the .25. At 1300 yds the drop is 32.56 inches. This bullet has a BC of .697.
As you can see the 6.5 has no overwhelming advantage.
I'm running a heavy 26" barrel with a 1:7 twist. The action is a Lrg. ring Mauser so it's plenty strong enough.
They are. As a matter of fact you can resize 06 brass to 8 and shave a little off the neck and you're good to go.
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I'd consider a new barrel and chamber. I'm thinking of maybe buying one and then waiting to see what it tells me that it wants to be in its new life.
Good plan.
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Kinda like those damned overpriced M1 clips, they ain't gittin' any more plentiful. At least they are very base grade shooters. Good enough for a build chassis.
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Still alive. Defective firearms, assassins, ninjas, alphabets, and libturds. Nothing defective about Wat's maths scores, however. Allah is truly beneficent.
There also seems to be a few M1917 rifles out there. Aren't they s'posed to be kinda stout?
There also seems to be a few M1917 rifles out there. Aren't they s'posed to be kinda stout?
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That rifle is tree fiddy, not 250. Still. The Enfields are more like 5-600. They do have better working bolts.
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They are strong alright. They have some idiosyncrasies that you either have to get used to or gunsmithed out.
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The .25-06 could be superior but only if they start making longer/heavier projectiles for it. Your tables prove that the 6.5 does better over distance. By how much isn't relevant, it's still "better."
The only other advantage the 6.5 has is less recoil. It's the same with the .308/30.06 where the .308 recoils less by several foot lbs. This is a result of the shorter case and faster powder burn. Using a longer barrel on the .06 helps offset this because you can take advantage of the larger case capacity for more velocity but unless you can stabilize the bullet it's just wasted speed/energy.
I think a 140-142 gr projectile would make the 25-06 really shine over distance and it would carry more energy farther than the Creedmore does. But that's just me and I have no data to back it up.
Let's start with the 140 gr. Maybe, but not likely. Physics and chemistry start becoming the limiting factors. The heavier the bullet the slower burning the powder needed and slower burning powders require more grains to the shell. So unless those European powder magicians come up with something we start running into case capacity issues. That can be overcome to an extent by chamber reaming to 25-06 AI but even then you run into issues because you have to seat the bullet so deeply so as to not exceed over all length that space you gained you have now lost to bullet displacement. And compressed loads are never a good idea, ask the boys of turret two of the USS Wisconsin.
As for recoil, there is 8 tenths of a pound difference in free recoil between the two with the 25-06 being the heavier but both being in the 11 lb class. Again that's the laws of physics at work and is due primarily to the greater muzzle velocity.
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This guy sees what dense and walkable looks like:
The SLA did that and the law set the house on fire. End of story.
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The Densewalkazombi (tm) has about 36-48 hrs effectiveness before they begin to accept their fate and just lay down and die.
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