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dmallord said:
Your simplistic view of ‘the rule of law’ as a cure for our national issues is not a satisfactory source of guidance. Our nation has experienced polarization, and people have lost trust in the legal system. The events that occurred on January 6th and Donald Trump's attempt to regain power clearly demonstrate this division.

We need to recognize and address the underlying social, economic, and political issues that contribute to social discord and unrest, rather than relying solely on the rule of law. We need to elect leaders who can ensure that our legal system treats all Americans fairly, justly, and with accountability, regardless of their race, gender, or socioeconomic status. The future of our democracy depends on it.
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If that's what you believe then you're nothing more than an ignorant asshole. We are a nation of laws. I stand for those laws and made an entire career out of doing so.

I don't engage in destructive behavior and cannot advocate that anyone else do so. Why? Because it's against the law and I can be punished for it by both the courts and the State Bar Association.

We also already have laws against discrimination. More laws against discrimination, except discrimination against you if you're white, just like your fascist bullshit about needing more gun laws, won't change anything with those who already disobey the law.

So spare me your social justice bullshit. If you want change then you need to do more than riot in the dark while looting and burning the small businesses which support our society and which did NOTHING to harm anyone. Because hurting your neighbors doesn't bring them on board with your ideology.

In the end if you want change then YOU need to get off your ass and advocate that minorities receive the punishments for breaking the law equally as non minorities get. That means no more "get out of jail free" passes in the courts or on the street. YOU need to start telling people that if they do the crime, they're going to do the time. Period.

Anything else, like trying to use statistics to prove a nonexistent point, is just more of your ignorant assed bullshit.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
I don’t blindly accept the status quo. That’s why I want to change the law to allow women everywhere in the US to choose whether to get an abortion.
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Then run for office, get elected, sponsor a bill to amend the Constitution and get it ratified by the states. Anything else is you whinging and crying.
 
HisArpy said:
Then run for office, get elected, sponsor a bill to amend the Constitution and get it ratified by the states. Anything else is you whinging and crying
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We can do what we normally do an ignore the fuck out of the Constitution. The Founders for one reason or another made the Constitution way to difficult to change.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
Legalizing abortion doesn’t require a Constitutional amendment.
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So you say.

The problem you have is that the Constitution says that States have Rights and SCOTUS says that there's no Federal Constitutional Right to abortion and that the individual States can regulate it. No Federal statute is going to get beyond that so you're going to need a Constitutional Amendment to get where you want to be.

So, better luck next time.
 
jason28053 said:
Are you summarizing the state of the union speech four years ago?
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BS, it had little to do with the actual "state of the union." It was a angry disgraceful campaign speech full of lies to the American people. It had more to do the crazed and convoluted "state" of Joe Biden's mind than the "state of the nation." Here are a few facts:

In his 2024 State of the Union address, President Joe Biden touched on several important topics, but it’s essential to critically evaluate the accuracy of his statements. Here are some key points from his speech:
  1. Wages and Inflation:
    • Biden claimed that “wages keep going up” and that the U.S. inflation rate of about 3% is the “lowest in the world!” However, wages have actually decreased when adjusted for inflation during his presidency. Additionally, several other nations reported lower inflation rates than the U.S. in December1.
  2. Federal Deficit:
    • The president stated that he had “cut the federal deficit by over one trillion dollars.” However, declining deficits were primarily due to expiring emergency pandemic spending, not necessarily his policies.
  3. Job Creation:
    • Biden boasted about creating a “record” 15 million new jobs. While this is a record for any president in their first three years, it’s not the highest job growth rate achieved during that period.
    • He also suggested that many new jobs in U.S. semiconductor factories would pay $100,000 a year and not require a college degree. However, an industry trade group previously reported that only workers with bachelor’s or graduate degrees make that much.
  4. Clean Energy Investments:
    • Biden claimed that his policies attracted $650 billion in private sector investment in clean energy and advanced manufacturing. However, these are announcements about intentions to invest, not actual investments.
  5. Crime Rates:
    • The president highlighted recent decreases in murder and violent crime rates but omitted that they are still coming down from their pandemic peak.
    • He also left out context regarding a Trump comment following an Iowa school shooting.
  6. Tax Rates and Health Insurance:
    • Biden said billionaires pay an average federal tax rate of only 8.2%, but this calculation includes earnings on unsold stock as income.
    • His claim that over 100 million people can no longer be denied health insurance due to preexisting conditions due to the Affordable Care Act overlooks the fact that employer plans covered many of those people and couldn’t deny policies pre-ACA.
  7. Carbon Emissions Reduction:
In summary, while Biden’s speech covered a range of topics, it’s crucial to fact-check and consider the context behind each statement. Some claims were accurate, while others were misleading or omitted important details12.

Learn more​

1factcheck.org2usatoday.com6theguardian.com
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
The Constitution doesn’t ban any medical procedures. Why would we need to amend it to make a federal law concerning one in particular?
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Amendment XIV, Section 1:

  • All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
  • No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The question is, when does a fetus become a person? The Constitution leaves that up to the states.
 
BrightShinyGirl said:
The Constitution doesn’t ban any medical procedures. Why would we need to amend it to make a federal law concerning one in particular?
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HisArpy is correct on the state's rights bullshit. This is just one more reason why state's rights is absolute bullshit and I'm kinda curious how long it will take those red states to start arresting women who get abortions out of state and other interstate conflicts.
 
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