The future is dense, walkable cities.

[Rightguide]

If the government spent as much on trains as it spends on highways more people would ride them. Make the rail network go more places, and run more trains more often.

On a smaller scale, converting a few car lanes to dedicated bus lanes would get more people on buses. People don't ride the bus now because buses have to share the street with private cars which makes them slow. Once you have buses breezing past traffic jams, people will ride them more.

The fact is they are impractical for mass transportation in the United States. Suburbia is way too spread out. Oh and who would want to walk around downtown San Francisco? It looks like a ghost town.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The fact is they are impractical for mass transportation in the United States. Suburbia is way too spread out.

Suburbia isn’t the topic under discussion. This thread is about compact walkable places.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Who said anything about banning cars? Nobody.

I’m in favor of streets that are safe for walking and biking. It’s a simple concept.

Do you hate all forms of physical exercise, or just walking and biking?

Actually I probably walk between 3 and 5 miles a day at work. As well as multiple times a week take my German Shepherd for long walks in our woods. Where I live I would not dare bike ride. I live in a rural area where logging trucks are common traffic. I prefer not to be a grill ornament. I do not like to "exercise" as you may call it. I do things that call for physical effort that make planning to exercise a waste of time. I retired 11 years ago from my career and have lost 90 pounds since then. So don't worry about my physical health.

 

[Rightguide]

1. There was a time before cars when all of these issues were handled without cars.

But not without individually owned modes of transportation like horses mules and wagons. In America, we travel at will to wherever we want to go, without the time and destination being predetermined by the State or a corporate entity. It's called freedom.

 

[Rightguide]

Suburbia isn’t the topic under discussion. This thread is about compact walkable places.

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

 

[MajorRewrite]

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

Your delusional paranoia is funny.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

I regularly walk around LA and even take the train. My main fear is being killed by a careless driver on my way to the station.

 

[MajorRewrite]

New compact walkable places

A database of “traditional neighborhood development” and “transit oriented development” projects for those who might like to see some of the best places real estate developers are building these days.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Look at what those commies in Texas built: a new downtown for a suburban area.

Addison Circle began as a vacant 80-acre site, later expanded to 124 acres, on the eastern edge of town between the Addison Airport and the Dallas Tollway. Through the community vision process led by RTKL (now CallisonRTKL) and development by Columbus Realty Trust (and completed by Post Properties), Addison Circle is now home to more than 2,400 residences, including brownstones, townhouses, condominiums, and apartments, plus 625,000 square feet of office, retail, and restaurant space adding up to over $500 million in private development.

https://www.cnu.org/what-we-do/build-great-places/addison-circle

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Who said anything about banning cars? Nobody.

I’m in favor of streets that are safe for walking and biking. It’s a simple concept.

Do you hate all forms of physical exercise, or just walking and biking?

You're arguing with an imbecile.

 

[MajorRewrite]

You're arguing with an imbecile.

I know. It’s amusing.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I know. It’s amusing.

Agreed!!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They have no real answer because, like most of their ideas, this one doesn't encompass all the possible variables and situations.

Instead what they'll do is grant "exceptions" for special situations (ambulances/fire/police/etc) Exceptions which always seem to fall in favor of those with wealth and power and which ALWAYS funnel the money and services upward to a chosen few.

Wide bike lanes and dedicated bus lanes are better for emergency vehicles than the status quo, where ambulances have to navigate around jams of private cars.

 

[Rightguide]

Your delusional paranoia is funny.

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

Come on wrongway, give us laugh, we like to hear idiots laugh, it's special!

 

[MajorRewrite]

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

What blue cities have you been to lately?

I was in Baltimore last week and had a great time. We have friends there and went out every night. A very underrated blue city. Wasn’t mugged or harassed or anything of course.

In December we went to Nashville. Another great time. A really fun blue city.

I’m 62 years old and I’ve never been mugged, assaulted or had any of those kind of problems in my entire life. Not once.

The world simply isn’t as scary as you think it is. Don’t let delusional paranoia erode your enjoyment of life.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

What blue cities have you been to lately?

I was in Baltimore last week and had a great time. We have friends there and went out every night. A very underrated blue city. Wasn’t mugged or harassed or anything of course.

In December we went to Nashville. Another great time. A really fun blue city.

I’m 62 years old and I’ve never been mugged, assaulted or had any of those kind of problems in my entire life. Not once.

The world simply isn’t as scary as you think it is. Don’t let delusional paranoia erode your enjoyment of life.

wrongway and his fellow followers live in world of fear. It's seems that is all they know. FEAR.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Moving to a climate of your choice is a common adaptation. And now there's global climate change, so Tennessee's former climate is moving north to my state. That is too late to prevent the rust damage on my truck, so I may feel a little salty about that.

I still don't want to live in a dense urban environment. I prefer my little 6 acre slice of heaven out in the boonies. Far from the maddening noise of city life.

 

[TrailerHitch]

What blue cities have you been to lately?

I was in Baltimore last week and had a great time. We have friends there and went out every night. A very underrated blue city. Wasn’t mugged or harassed or anything of course.

In December we went to Nashville. Another great time. A really fun blue city.

I’m 62 years old and I’ve never been mugged, assaulted or had any of those kind of problems in my entire life. Not once.

The world simply isn’t as scary as you think it is. Don’t let delusional paranoia erode your enjoyment of life.

Yet you didn't go to Memphis...I wonder why. No not really. A very blue city with a serious crime problem.

 

[Lazaran]

Consider what’s happening in LA right now. There are lots of high-density areas where you don’t need a car—Beverly Hills, Hollywood, Culver City, Santa Monica—stitch them together with train lines and bike paths, and support developing other pockets of walkability between them, and in a few decades you’ve turned LA into a 15-minute city without rebuilding it from scratch.

That ^ makes sense.

I wouldn’t say that equates to the future being dense, walkable cities as I imagined your thread title was suggesting…

but that would be mostly my fault:

The wholesale, nationwide adoption of 3-4 story multi-family centralized housing projects with various services located in the ground floor, and the wholesale, nationwide abandonment of single family dwellings / suburbs, and a move away from personal vehicle ownership to mass transit, walking and biking, was what I imagined you were suggesting: All my comments should be viewed through that lens.



Although, I believe all of the above could be required / mandatory due to the climate change related loss of arable land and habitable real estate.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Yet you didn't go to Memphis...I wonder why. No not really. A very blue city with a serious crime problem.

I’ll admit I haven’t been to every single blue city recently. I don’t have any reason to go to Memphis. I’m sure it’s just as underrated as Baltimore.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I’ll admit I haven’t been to every single blue city recently. I don’t have any reason to go to Memphis. I’m sure it’s just as underrated as Baltimore.

Actually if you were on that side of the state and didn't go see Graceland you aren't much of a tourist.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Actually if you were on that side of the state and didn't go see Graceland you aren't much of a tourist.

I wasn’t “on that side of the state”. I was in Nashville, in the middle of the state. Memphis is 210 miles from Nashville.

Tennessee is big.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I wasn’t “on that side of the state”. I was in Nashville, in the middle of the state. Memphis is 210 miles from Nashville.

Tennessee is big.

Hitch lives there, you'd think he'd know that, right?

 

[MajorRewrite]

Hitch lives there, you'd think he'd know that, right?

I had to look up the exact distance on google maps, but I knew it was a long way.