The future is dense, walkable cities.

[MajorRewrite]

Believe whatever you like.

Believe whatever you like.

 

[Chernosoth]

Biking on snow is easy and can be fun. Biking through snow is more challenging. Drivers and cyclists are equally dependent on snowplows.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Believe whatever you like.

Hitch, why do you have an issue with facts? Just because you disagree, doesn't make you right.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Believe whatever you like.

I do, having spent the vast majority of my life in the upper midwest, until leaving the shit of 5 to 7 month winters for the glory of maybe 2 weeks of cold and most years almost no snow, for Tennessee. When it gets to the minus 20's and 30's with wind chills to 50 below most people do not walk anywhere, let alone bike. Only the most hardy, or insane, snowmobilers or ice fisherman come out on days like that. Hell the schools even close now when it gets to 20 below. So while this idea may work in places like California, I'm not sure the cold belt is a good candidate for it.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I do, having spent the vast majority of my life in the upper midwest, until leaving the shit of 5 to 7 month winters for the glory of maybe 2 weeks of cold and most years almost no snow, for Tennessee. When it gets to the minus 20's and 30's with wind chills to 50 below most people do not walk anywhere, let alone bike. Only the most hardy, or insane, snowmobilers or ice fisherman come out on days like that. Hell the schools even close now when it gets to 20 below. So while this idea may work in places like California, I'm not sure the cold belt is a good candidate for it.

So it gets cold. What about the rest of the year?

As I posted above, Minneapolis is one of the US’ best cycling cities.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/how-minneapolis-became-a-top-u.s.-bike-city

 

[TrailerHitch]

So it gets cold. What about the rest of the year?

As I posted above, Minneapolis is one of the US’ best cycling cities.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/how-minneapolis-became-a-top-u.s.-bike-city

Yay for Minneapolis...

So what about the rest of the year. Do you suggest people that people that don't want to walk, or bike, 15 minutes to the grocery store, or anywhere else for that matter, in sub zero weather hibernate? Or become snow birds and leave for warmer climates in the winter? Seriously what's your answer?

 

[HisArpy]

Yay for Minneapolis...

So what about the rest of the year. Do you suggest people that people that don't want to walk, or bike, 15 minutes to the grocery store, or anywhere else for that matter, in sub zero weather hibernate? Or become snow birds and leave for warmer climates in the winter? Seriously what's your answer?

They have no real answer because, like most of their ideas, this one doesn't encompass all the possible variables and situations.

Instead what they'll do is grant "exceptions" for special situations (ambulances/fire/police/etc) Exceptions which always seem to fall in favor of those with wealth and power and which ALWAYS funnel the money and services upward to a chosen few.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Yay for Minneapolis...

So what about the rest of the year. Do you suggest people that people that don't want to walk, or bike, 15 minutes to the grocery store, or anywhere else for that matter, in sub zero weather hibernate? Or become snow birds and leave for warmer climates in the winter? Seriously what's your answer?

Who said anything about banning cars? Nobody.

I’m in favor of streets that are safe for walking and biking. It’s a simple concept.

Do you hate all forms of physical exercise, or just walking and biking?

 

[Rightguide]

If the government spent as much on trains as it spends on highways more people would ride them. Make the rail network go more places, and run more trains more often.

On a smaller scale, converting a few car lanes to dedicated bus lanes would get more people on buses. People don't ride the bus now because buses have to share the street with private cars which makes them slow. Once you have buses breezing past traffic jams, people will ride them more.

The fact is they are impractical for mass transportation in the United States. Suburbia is way too spread out. Oh and who would want to walk around downtown San Francisco? It looks like a ghost town.

 

[MajorRewrite]

The fact is they are impractical for mass transportation in the United States. Suburbia is way too spread out.

Suburbia isn’t the topic under discussion. This thread is about compact walkable places.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Who said anything about banning cars? Nobody.

I’m in favor of streets that are safe for walking and biking. It’s a simple concept.

Do you hate all forms of physical exercise, or just walking and biking?

Actually I probably walk between 3 and 5 miles a day at work. As well as multiple times a week take my German Shepherd for long walks in our woods. Where I live I would not dare bike ride. I live in a rural area where logging trucks are common traffic. I prefer not to be a grill ornament. I do not like to "exercise" as you may call it. I do things that call for physical effort that make planning to exercise a waste of time. I retired 11 years ago from my career and have lost 90 pounds since then. So don't worry about my physical health.

 

[Rightguide]

1. There was a time before cars when all of these issues were handled without cars.

But not without individually owned modes of transportation like horses mules and wagons. In America, we travel at will to wherever we want to go, without the time and destination being predetermined by the State or a corporate entity. It's called freedom.

 

[Rightguide]

Suburbia isn’t the topic under discussion. This thread is about compact walkable places.

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

 

[MajorRewrite]

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

Your delusional paranoia is funny.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No blue city is safe to walk around at will in the US. It's about Democrat tolerance for crime, lack of sanitation, and their social policy.

I regularly walk around LA and even take the train. My main fear is being killed by a careless driver on my way to the station.

 

[MajorRewrite]

New compact walkable places

A database of “traditional neighborhood development” and “transit oriented development” projects for those who might like to see some of the best places real estate developers are building these days.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Look at what those commies in Texas built: a new downtown for a suburban area.

Addison Circle began as a vacant 80-acre site, later expanded to 124 acres, on the eastern edge of town between the Addison Airport and the Dallas Tollway. Through the community vision process led by RTKL (now CallisonRTKL) and development by Columbus Realty Trust (and completed by Post Properties), Addison Circle is now home to more than 2,400 residences, including brownstones, townhouses, condominiums, and apartments, plus 625,000 square feet of office, retail, and restaurant space adding up to over $500 million in private development.

https://www.cnu.org/what-we-do/build-great-places/addison-circle

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Who said anything about banning cars? Nobody.

I’m in favor of streets that are safe for walking and biking. It’s a simple concept.

Do you hate all forms of physical exercise, or just walking and biking?

You're arguing with an imbecile.

 

[MajorRewrite]

You're arguing with an imbecile.

I know. It’s amusing.

 

[Chernosoth]

I do, having spent the vast majority of my life in the upper midwest, until leaving the shit of 5 to 7 month winters for the glory of maybe 2 weeks of cold and most years almost no snow, for Tennessee. When it gets to the minus 20's and 30's with wind chills to 50 below most people do not walk anywhere, let alone bike. Only the most hardy, or insane, snowmobilers or ice fisherman come out on days like that. Hell the schools even close now when it gets to 20 below. So while this idea may work in places like California, I'm not sure the cold belt is a good candidate for it.

Moving to a climate of your choice is a common adaptation. And now there's global climate change, so Tennessee's former climate is moving north to my state. That is too late to prevent the rust damage on my truck, so I may feel a little salty about that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I know. It’s amusing.

Agreed!!

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They have no real answer because, like most of their ideas, this one doesn't encompass all the possible variables and situations.

Instead what they'll do is grant "exceptions" for special situations (ambulances/fire/police/etc) Exceptions which always seem to fall in favor of those with wealth and power and which ALWAYS funnel the money and services upward to a chosen few.

Wide bike lanes and dedicated bus lanes are better for emergency vehicles than the status quo, where ambulances have to navigate around jams of private cars.

 

[Rightguide]

Your delusional paranoia is funny.

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

Come on wrongway, give us laugh, we like to hear idiots laugh, it's special!

 

[MajorRewrite]

Your lack of awareness is funnier.

What blue cities have you been to lately?

I was in Baltimore last week and had a great time. We have friends there and went out every night. A very underrated blue city. Wasn’t mugged or harassed or anything of course.

In December we went to Nashville. Another great time. A really fun blue city.

I’m 62 years old and I’ve never been mugged, assaulted or had any of those kind of problems in my entire life. Not once.

The world simply isn’t as scary as you think it is. Don’t let delusional paranoia erode your enjoyment of life.