Unfit To Be An American

[SmokingFap]

You pick sides. You know you do, I know you do, anyone else who reads the droll crap you spew also knows you do.

No one wins when the world plays Hatfields and McCoys. You thinking that more slaughter is justified because of that mindset is stupid and only shows your bias.

Jesus Christ, you're fucking retarded. I just said that I'm not picking sides in the Israeli/Hamas carnage. I don't think either of the populations should be slaughtered. I think you're projecting a bit too much.

 

[HisArpy]

Jesus Christ, you're fucking retarded. I just said that I'm not picking sides in the Israeli/Hamas carnage. I don't think either of the populations should be slaughtered. I think you're projecting a bit too much.

You justify your opinion by saying:

I believe both Hamas and Netenyahu are guilty of atrocities over there.

Meanwhile I say I don't give a fuck what happened, just STOP KILLING EACH OTHER Goddamn it!



One of us picked a side. It wasn't me. Which also shows that one of us is, to quote you, retarded. That also isn't me.

 

[EbonySplash]

Your life today doesn't have a fucking thing to do with what happened hundreds of years ago. The fact is, slavery was a way of life for thousands of years before the British and the Americans put a stop to it in our countries. It is still alive and well in Africa.

Nobody is trying to silence you, but when you start spouting uneducated bullshit and making unfounded conjured-up charges of racism you're going to get called on it.

Keep bringin' it boys. Tell me off. Sit me down and shut me up. Tell me to go back "someplace" I'd be happier.

Tell me slavery was the fault of black people. Tell me Africans BENEFITTED from slavery and we should be thankful for it.

Tell me all the ways in which black people today face discrimination and unfair treatment are still our fault. Tell me everything would be better for us if we just let go of the evils of the past and the injustice of the present.

Tell me that white supremacists are just "good people" as Trump characterized them.

Tell me whatever TRUMPED-up racist BULLSHIT you want. Just know that you will be called on it.

 

[HisArpy]

Keep bringin' it boys. Tell me off. Sit me down and shut me up. Tell me to go back "someplace" I'd be happier.

Tell me slavery was the fault of black people. Tell me Africans BENEFITTED from slavery and we should be thankful for it.

Tell me all the ways in which black people today face discrimination and unfair treatment are still our fault. Tell me everything would be better for us if we just let go of the evils of the past and the injustice of the present.

Tell me that white supremacists are just "good people" as Trump characterized them.

Tell me whatever TRUMPED-up racist BULLSHIT you want. Just know that you will be called on it.

Please quote either myself or RG where we said any of that. Not spin. Not interpretation. Not your "feelings." Quote ACTUAL WORDS which actually say the things you're ascribing to either of us.

Because if you cannot, then you need to apologize.

 

[EbonySplash]

My words? You mean the words of peace that I use? The words which say that your hatreds and biases have no place in the world except to incite others? The words I use when I refer to MLK's speeches where I'm told I don't know what I'm talking about by people like you? Those words?

You are filled with a sense of self righteousness based on the color of your skin. You believe that merely because you're black you're entitled to something more than anyone else is. Because some people 150 years ago did something we have since abolished.

You need to grow the fuck up and understand I don't care what color your skin is. I'm more concerned (to quote Mr. King) with the content of your character.

A content you display for all to see and which is seriously lacking in quality.

If saying that we are equal makes me a racist, I'm wondering what your words make you. After all, you're the one who is saying that I'm the cause of all your problems merely because of the color of my skin.

Which I believe, if one follows the standard definition, makes you a racist.

HipArsy, I'm actually giving you a LIKE on this post because you're so entertaining.

Words of Peace? WORDS OF PEACE? As long as you keep insisting that the centuries of black slavery in the Americas was just some bump in the road and we should just forget about it, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE BETWEEN US.

As long as you insist that history has been fair to black people, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE BETWEEN US.

As long as you refer to me as "people like you" THERE CAN BE NO PEACE BETWEEN US.

As long as you have the goddamn GALL to try to perpetuate your racist bullshit by quoting MLK as if he would have approved of you in ANY way, THERE CAN BE NO PEACE BETWEEN US.

 

[EbonySplash]

Please quote either myself or RG where we said any of that. Not spin. Not interpretation. Not your "feelings." Quote ACTUAL WORDS which actually say the things you're ascribing to either of us.

Because if you cannot, then you need to apologize.

I will apologize to you as soon as you and all your trailer trash friends and family move back to Europe.

 

[EbonySplash]

HipArsy and ReichGuard...thank you for being my moral compass. As long as I have both of you screaming at me in outrage, I know I'm on the right path.

 

[HisArpy]

I will apologize to you as soon as you and all your trailer trash friends and family move back to Europe.

Quoted as proof of someone's bigotry and racism.

 

[EbonySplash]

You pick sides. You know you do, I know you do, anyone else who reads the droll crap you spew also knows you do.

No one wins when the world plays Hatfields and McCoys. You thinking that more slaughter is justified because of that mindset is stupid and only shows your bias.

OF COURSE he picks sides, numbnutz. We're all picking sides here. We all pick sides when we vote. What the fuck

 

[HisArpy]

OF COURSE he picks sides, numbnutz. We're all picking sides here. We all pick sides when we vote. What the fuck

I choose no side. I don't care who is at fault, who did what, or anything else.

I only want the killing to stop.

 

[EbonySplash]

Quoted as proof of someone's bigotry and racism.

I bet I've heard "go back to Africa" a lot more often this month than you've heard "go back to Europe" in your entire life, other than when I said it to you.

Being called a bigot and a racist by bigots and racists is relatively new in my life. The gaslighting of black people as racists came into fashion shortly after Trump became president.

 

[HisArpy]

I bet I've heard "go back to Africa" a lot more often this month than you've heard "go back to Europe" in your entire life, other than when I said it to you.

Being called a bigot and a racist by bigots and racists is relatively new in my life. The gaslighting of black people as racists came into fashion shortly after Trump became president.

If that's what people are telling you then you need to start hanging out with a better class of people.

Either that or stop spewing the hate that you seem to enjoy spreading all over Lit.

 

[EbonySplash]

If that's what people are telling you then you need to start hanging out with a better class of people.

Either that or stop spewing the hate that you seem to enjoy spreading all over Lit.

If you think you can gaslight me into silence, you angried up the wrong black woman, jasper.

 

[EbonySplash]

If that's what people are telling you then you need to start hanging out with a better class of people.

Either that or stop spewing the hate that you seem to enjoy spreading all over Lit.

"Better class of people"? This isn't from people I choose to "hang out with." This comes from people who are angry because I changed lanes or complained because I got overcharged for groceries or any of a number of things you take for granted.

Better class of people? These are good ol' righteous godly conservative AMERICANS.

"Spewing hate all over Lit?" Well yeah...becsuse you define "hate" as anything said that's to the left of your own political view.

 

[EbonySplash]

Keep bringin' it boys, I'm just getting warmed up.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Angry Derpy is my favorite Derpy.

 

[jomar]

Keep bringin' it boys, I'm just getting warmed up.

They think they don’t see color. They’re like “what are microaggressions?”

 

[Rightguide]

More revisionism, half your nation fought to keep it and Britain compensated slave owners not slaves.

That half was brutally defeated as well.

 

[EbonySplash]

That half was brutally defeated as well.

Yes, and that half has never forgiven freed black people for that indignity.

 

[EbonySplash]

That half was brutally defeated as well.

"Brutally"? It was a war. They lost. The "brutally" adverb tell us more about how you're framing the conflict than what actually happened.

So I'm supposed to sympathize with enslavers of my ancestors because they lost the war to maintain their slave society?

 

[Chobham]

Yes, and that half has never forgiven freed black people for that indignity.

Damn but that's a big chip you're carrying around.

In all probability your fore bearers were sold into slavery by the tribe that captured them, or even the chieftain of their own tribe. What are your demands of them?

In all probability they were sold to Arab slavers who marched them to the coast. What are your demands of them?

The Arabs sold your fore bearers to some European, most likely English, French, Dutch, Spanish, or Portuguese. What are your demands of them?

Have you read the Constitution? Bills of Attainder are prohibited, and this means that there can be no "corruption of the blood." Carrying that further the child cannot be punished for the sins of the father/mother. To the best of my knowledge there is no one alive today that participated in the abomination of slavery, either as a slave, slave owner, or in passive agreement.

That being said, no one alive today owes you an apology for crimes/sins they did not commit. Nor can you demand reparations for crimes/sins you did not suffer. Your anger is a burden that you have taken upon yourself, is unresolvable, and will serve you no good purpose moving forward in your life.

 

[EbonySplash]

Damn but that's a big chip you're carrying around.

In all probability your fore bearers were sold into slavery by the tribe that captured them, or even the chieftain of their own tribe. What are your demands of them?

In all probability they were sold to Arab slavers who marched them to the coast. What are your demands of them?

The Arabs sold your fore bearers to some European, most likely English, French, Dutch, Spanish, or Portuguese. What are your demands of them?

Have you read the Constitution? Bills of Attainder are prohibited, and this means that there can be no "corruption of the blood." Carrying that further the child cannot be punished for the sins of the father/mother. To the best of my knowledge there is no one alive today that participated in the abomination of slavery, either as a slave, slave owner, or in passive agreement.

That being said, no one alive today owes you an apology for crimes/sins they did not commit. Nor can you demand reparations for crimes/sins you did not suffer. Your anger is a burden that you have taken upon yourself, is unresolvable, and will serve you no good purpose moving forward in your life.

Wow. THANK YOU FOR MANSPLAINING THE SLAVERY SUPPLY CHAIN TO ME. Really love the sensitivity and emotion you bring to describing - and attempt to excuse - one of largest and most horrific criminal enterprises ever carried out on this planet.

Maybe you could also apply your tender sensitivity to describing inventory spoilage rates in transit (how many people died in the holds of the trans-atlantic slave ships).

Were there other people involved in the supply chain besides the end users? Yes. I think we covered this in an earlier class, this is what happens when you show up late. YES, Africans and Arabs kidnapped black people into slavery. They had HUGE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE TO DO SO because the American slave states built an entire economy, an entire SOCIETY on the institution of slavery.

"What are your demands of them..." you ask, referencing the Africans, Arabs and Europeans invovled in supplying the gargantuam maw of slave demand in the American south.

Well, first off, this wasn't a discussion of reparations until YOU brought it up just now. This whole discussion started with the originator of this thread thinking he gets to say who's "fit" to be an American, and me noting my frustration with certain people with similar attitudes telling me i should "go back to Africa."

As for your arguments against reparations, I would simply say that's all they are - arguments. Not facts, as you present them to be. Slavery reparations are under discussion in many places, they are happening in some, and people who argue against it are using arguments like yours. It's an ongoing process and your view thst it "shouldn't" happen is just your opinion.

The rest of your post is simply a lecture from you, a halfwit racist fuckwad, telling me, a descendant of slaves, how it's in my best interest not to hold a grudge over that innocent little centuries-long slavery thing. My response to that is three words. Go fuck yourself.

 

[Chobham]

*sigh* You're ranting over events that took place damn near 200 years ago. Slavery is as old as mankind and no nation is without sin in that regard, nor is any one race or creed free from being enslaved. Slavery is still alive and well in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia. It is Western civilization that put an end to slavery where they could. You can carry that load as long as you want, not me.

Reparations have been discussed from time to time here and there. An effort to force the innocent to buy off the undeserving.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Actually, since you have no idea who I am or what race I am, it's rather difficult to take anything you say as being truthful.

The fact is; I have not hurt you. Instead, you've hurt yourself by deciding that your skin color is somehow the cause of everything both good and bad in your life. That you scream about how it's all whities fault that you're black is indicative of the problem being within yourself rather than anything external. Which makes THAT a mental issue not a physical or real life issue. You have subsumed the pain and suffering of others and falsely made it your own to use it as a sword for the sole purpose of unjustly hurting both yourself and others.

All of us are whatever we choose to believe we are. In your case it's obvious that you've decided to believe that you're a victim. A victim of acts perpetrated upon others hundreds of years ago. Never mind the intervening centuries, to you those acts by people long dead are the reason you're black, that you're alive, and that you have to spew hatred.

I pity your children.

You are a white racist retard. Everyone knows these facts.

 

[HisArpy]

"Better class of people"? This isn't from people I choose to "hang out with." This comes from people who are angry because I changed lanes or complained because I got overcharged for groceries or any of a number of things you take for granted.

Better class of people? These are good ol' righteous godly conservative AMERICANS.

"Spewing hate all over Lit?" Well yeah...becsuse you define "hate" as anything said that's to the left of your own political view.

Girl, if you're listening to assholes who scream at you because you drive like Mrs. Magoo and taking that to heart, you gots more problems that anyone here has time to listen to.

OTOH, you seem to have come here tossing around accusations that we're the ones who are going all road rage on you because of the color of your skin when we don't even care about you at all. Or perhaps that's your way of trying to make an introduction?

If so, it's not your best work.