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ll74 said:
Got it.

Your oversimplification is noted.

I'm sure the Israelis will call you for military advice 👍
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Got it, your nutless inability to answer a scenario question tells me plenty about you.

No oversimplification, it's a real world possibility, kind of like when US troops were not allowed to fire into Mosques even when the enemy was shooting at them from inside them.

Since they have won every war they have ever been in as a country I'm sure they can take care of themselves without out the hand wringing and crying towels that have appeared in this topic.
 
TrailerHitch said:
Got it, your nutless inability to answer a scenario question tells me plenty about you.

No oversimplification, it's a real world possibility, kind of like when US troops were not allowed to fire into Mosques even when the enemy was shooting at them from inside them.

Since they have won every war they have ever been in as a country I'm sure they can take care of themselves without out the hand wringing and crying towels that have appeared in this topic.
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You continue to entertain.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Your pie in the sky bullshit is inaccurate and inappropriate. If a soldier is in a firefight with an enemy that uses human shields you attempt to avoid civilian casualties but if a machine gun is shooting at you through a civilian shield all bets are off. You are no good to anyone dead. Hamas is playing on western values to kill you, war is hell for a reason.
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the Japanese did that in the battle of Manila, we had to kill tens of thousands of civilians in order to kill the Japanese. MacArthur's solution was to try and execute the Japanese commanders involved.
 
TrailerHitch said:
The clear difference though is the Israelis are not hiding behind their civilian citizens. Hamas is purposely using Palestinian civilians as human shields. They are purposely having their citizens killed to protect their cowardly actions.
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Yes, yes...the old-but-effective "but..but...human shields!" trope.

Left unsaid is the entirety of Gaza is a crowded urban menage of cities and villages with incredibly high population densities.

In a perfect world there would be Hamas military barracks for Israeli jets to bomb....but there aren't.

Hamas has perfected techniques learned from Vietnam: an extensive network of tunnels by and large unaffected by Israeli air superiority. This has forced Israel to rely upon ground troops which to date has not gone well for the IDF. The IDF rolls in a tank company, and a Hamas militant pops out of a "spider hole" and fires an anti-tank round clear through the Israeli armor at almost point blank range.

This is asymmetrical warfare at its best, which used to be called "guerilla war". Hamas won't parade its military strength the way the Nazis did in WW2, they're content to grind Israel down in a war of attrition just like Ho Chi Minh did to defeat American forces in Vietnam.

There is already grumbling in the Israeli press about everyday citizens not pleased with how Hamas was able to deliver a sucker punch against the supposedly infallible IDF, and virtually no Israeli wants to see a ground conflict, because that means Israeli troop casualties (blowing the shit out of opponents via the Israeli Air Force is acceptable provided the opponent has minimal air defense artillery capability...much fewer Israeli casualties).

And a growing number of folks in Israel are seeing this war as a ploy to strengthen proto-fascist dictator-wannabee Bibi Netanyahu consolidate his grip on Israeli political power.

....but hai, what do I know? I'm not an Israeli.
 
icanhelp1 said:
Erdogan is a thug. The Muslim Brotherhood is no friend of ours. Turkey should have been expelled when they agreed to take on Russian weapons systems. Erdogan is threatening retaliation towards Israel. If that happens nothing good can come from that. I don’t believe our leadership will have an answer.
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Our whole problem is the leadership our country suffers under. Joe has set us up perfectly for foreign attacks on our soil. They are already here and he welcomed them with open arms. It happened while the FBI and the intelligence community were immersed in the war against free speech, pissed-off parents at School board meetings, infiltrating Twitter, and Facebook while wringing their hands over white men in the military.
 
Rightguide said:
Our whole problem is the leadership our country suffers under. Joe has set us up perfectly for foreign attacks on our soil. They are already here and he welcomed them with open arms. It happened while the FBI and the intelligence community were immersed in the war against free speech, pissed-off parents at School board meetings, infiltrating Twitter, and Facebook while wringing their hands over white men in the military.
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The blame Biden thread is here -> https://forum.literotica.com/thread...er-israel-at-war.1596812/page-5#post-97666397
 
ll74 said:
I've explained my position. I'm not here for you.
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No it's quite clear you are only here for you. You demand answers and data but when pressed to answer yourself you hide like a little girl under her momma's skirt.
 
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