Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

[icanhelp1]

You had unconfirmed reports specifically targeting right wing media. And that would've been fine if you mentioned that it was unconfirmed.......there's a reason you didn't.

He is sharing corroboration of those reports.

No, I watched an Israeli General state that on public media, an Israeli news channel.

 

[ll74]

No, I watched an Israeli General state that on public media, an Israeli news channel.

Yes, you watched an Israeli claim something that wasn't confirmed. A claim that benefited Israelis and did not seek out any corroboration.

Again, you don't see the problem with going with your biased sources without corroboration and I'm pointing this out.

 

[icanhelp1]

Yes, you watched an Israeli claim something that wasn't confirmed. A claim that benefited Israelis and did not seek out any corroboration.

Again, you don't see the problem with going with your biased sources without corroboration and I'm pointing this out.

The General was commenting on site.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Anyone here have any idea how to de-escalate the situation between Gaza and Israel?

 

[ll74]

The General was commenting on site.

Yes, I get that you don't understand corroboration.

 

[icanhelp1]

Yes, I get that you don't understand corroboration.

When a fucking General who is inspecting the site with other officers and is interviewed by live media breaks down while attempting to provide description of what he saw, I’ll take his word. If you believe media won’t lie to you well, Now, with all the carnage that was reported, children tied to each other and burned alive and you need “corroboration” that Hamas wouldn’t decapitate babies, we’ll, so be it. Forensics are just now releasing results some of the autopsies that exactly corroborates what the general put out 6 days ago, they’re not releasing photos just reports, no photos that I’ve seen on media platforms. When you get info right from the horse’s mouth what better corroboration do you want. Forensic experts are Jewish but you believe them.

 

[ll74]

When a fucking General who is inspecting the site with other officers and is interviewed by live media breaks down while attempting to provide description of what he saw, I’ll take his word. If you believe media won’t lie to you well, Now, with all the carnage that was reported, children tied to each other and burned alive and you need “corroboration” that Hamas wouldn’t decapitate babies, we’ll, so be it. Forensics are just now releasing results some of the autopsies that exactly corroborates what the general put out 6 days ago, they’re not releasing photos just reports, no photos that I’ve seen on media platforms. When you get info right from the horse’s mouth what better corroboration do you want. Forensic experts are Jewish but you believe them.

Lol, yes, you don't get the importance of corroboration. "If you believe the media won't lie to you" - yah you also seem to miss what corroboration means.

"Forensics are just now releasing"- why would this be important when you already knew it?

"When you get info right from the horse’s mouth what better corroboration do you want" - that is literally zero corroboration.

 

[TallMan69]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/10/15/israel-hamas-war-live-updates/71194572007/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...o-hamas-commanders-who-led-attack-2023-10-14/

Looks like Israel is claiming three Hamas leaders who led attack have been killed.

 

[ll74]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2023/10/15/israel-hamas-war-live-updates/71194572007/

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...o-hamas-commanders-who-led-attack-2023-10-14/

Looks like Israel is claiming three Hamas leaders who led attack have been killed.

Thank you for the source info.

 

[rainsol]

Lol, yes, you don't get the importance of corroboration. "If you believe the media won't lie to you" - yah you also seem to miss what corroboration means.

"Forensics are just now releasing"- why would this be important when you already knew it?

"When you get info right from the horse’s mouth what better corroboration do you want" - that is literally zero corroboration.

That highlighted

 

[ll74]

That highlighted

Wtf are you talking about?

 

[icanhelp1]

Lol, yes, you don't get the importance of corroboration. "If you believe the media won't lie to you" - yah you also seem to miss what corroboration means.

"Forensics are just now releasing"- why would this be important when you already knew it?

As far as decapitation of babies what self respecting law enforcement or military agency would allow videos to be posted on media platforms. The corroboration are statements that comes from credible spokespeople, I consider a fucking Israeli general and his staff as reliable sources. Forensics are just more detailed evidence. There were plenty of reporters on the scene to see the carnage, bodies everywhere in all forms of torture, burned alive, shootings or dismemberment that to have some news agency question the viability of decapitated babies was in my opinion a news agency overplaying the doubting Thomas routine looking for gruesome picks as nothing more than sensationalism.

 

[ll74]

As far as decapitation of babies what self respecting law enforcement or military agency would allow videos to be posted on media platforms. The corroboration are statements that comes from credible spokespeople, I consider a fucking Israeli general and his staff as reliable sources. Forensics are just more detailed evidence. There were plenty of reporters on the scene to see the carnage, bodies everywhere in all forms of torture, burned alive, shootings or dismemberment that to have some news agency question the viability of decapitated babies was in my opinion a news agency overplaying the doubting Thomas routine looking for gruesome picks as nothing more than sensationalism.

You took one source and did not corroborate it.

That's the problem....nothing else.

Corroboration can literally be two sources.

You can admit that you don't care about corroboration or that your source doesn't need corroboration....but instead you think one source is corroboration....it is not.

 

[coati]

We didn’t invade Iraq over of 911.

This comment just got you nominated for Lit's Revisionism Award for 2023, with a side award for poor sentence structure.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Anyone here have any idea how to de-escalate the situation between Gaza and Israel?

I wish. I just feel really sorry for the innocent people caught up in this.

 

[icanhelp1]

This comment just got you nominated for Lit's Revisionism Award for 2023, with a side award for poor sentence structure.

After 911 we pursued UBL in Afghanistan not Iraq. As far as the word “of” that’s predictive text, sometimes hard to control on a small screen I-phone .

 

[policywank]

Anyone here have any idea how to de-escalate the situation between Gaza and Israel?

I listened to a guy on the news who supposedly had been involved in past hostage negotiations with Hamas and had had some discussions with them this time around as well. I believe he was Israeli so will obviously not be truly unbiased.

His view was that the only thing that would result in change is if they had what he called a "Belfast" moment. It was a reference to the troubles in Northern Ireland and how that only de-escalated when the general populace on both sides said enough is enough to their own leaders.

 

[silky52]

Palestinian deaths at Israel's hands are always far higher, and you know it.

Not this time, and I didn't know it was a competition! Why can't the Hamas just live in peace with us in their enclave. We don't want them and they don't want us! So, let's agree to disagree. But NO HAMAS DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE, DON'T YOU GET THAT?

Do we, the Israelis have to swallow 2,500 deaths and just say to the Hamas, oh thank you so much we did not need those women, children, babies or men???? Where is the sense in that? If you know anything about Arab culture you have to know that they will always attack us.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Anyone here have any idea how to de-escalate the situation between Gaza and Israel

OMG that's an easy one. Hamas surrenders unconditionally.

 

[silky52]

And go where, exactly? Gaza is an open air prison.

Israel said what they said to give their defenders another excuse to defend them.

Gaza is not a prison, however Hamas have made their own prison there. They are a part of the Palestinian Authority. Their Arab brothers have given them untold amounts of money in order to improve the lives of the people who live there. What do they do with that money? The spend it on the rockets that have been showered down on my husband and I, my kids and my grandkids. I guess you think that's an okay thing to do since they live in a prison of their own making!! If they wanted peace they would not be in the position they are now, and we could all live in paradise.

 

[ChloeTzang]

How long before the UN votes to condemn Israel?

The UN lost all relevance decades ago. The only people pretending they're important in any way are the hand-wringing Russian, Chinese and muslim symps

 

[ll74]

OMG that's an easy one. Hamas surrenders unconditionally.

Based on your previous statements, I doubt that would satisfy you.

I do agree that this is the best way forward for all.

 

[ChloeTzang]

A lot more people are finally seeing the evils of Israel in greater numbers. Biden has another foreign policy disaster too, i.e. the ruination of the Saudi-Israeli "normalization" of relations.

 

[silky52]

Based on your previous statements, I doubt that would satisfy you.

I do agree that this is the best way forward for all.

I sincerely hope that Hamas agrees with you!

 

[ll74]

I sincerely hope that Hamas agrees with you!

Based on their actions and previous statements, they do not.