Worst Song Ever

That happens to most musicians; they wind up with a couple of signature songs that get played to death and may not even be their best work. People on average prefer the familiar. If the crowd starts cheering when the song starts, that's a good sign that it's been overexposed.
Piano Man is arguably Billy Joel's most famous song (and if it's not the most famous, it's up there), and he hates it. He's said that it's such a simple melody that it's boring to play all the time. And it's 50 years old now, and still overshadows his later work.
 
The Chicken Dance has got to be the worst wedding song. You must have gotten sick of playing that one, too.

Oh, God.

I played it for a long, long time.

Eventually I dropped it from my regular routine unless specifically requested by my clients, I got so sick of it.

It serves a purpose, though:

It's purpose is to get people who otherwise don't like dancing to get out on the floor and do something fun and silly.

It IS a party, after all.

Same for all those line dances; the Electric Slide, the Cha Cha Slide, Cotton Eye Joe, etc.

They help people with no rhythm feel like they know how to dance.
 
While it is beautifully performed by Carly Simon, I consider the song to be horrible. Every time I hear it, I want to kill myself, it is so maudlin - "That's the Way I've Always Heard It Should Be"

My friends from college
They're all married now
They have their houses and their lawns
They have their silent noons
Tearful nights, angry dawns

Their children hate them for the things they're not
They hate themselves for what they are
And yet they drink, they laugh
Close the wound
Hide the scar
This song always pisses me off, she's settling because no one swept her off her feet.
 
Piano Man is arguably Billy Joel's most famous song (and if it's not the most famous, it's up there), and he hates it. He's said that it's such a simple melody that it's boring to play all the time. And it's 50 years old now, and still overshadows his later work.
It was certainly played to death. It has a Billy Joel conundrum, like many musicians here: he's basically a pop star, and sometimes a good one, but he can also fall into some awkward (infelicitous?) phrasings to get the rhyming correct. "He's talking to Davy, who is still in the Navy. . ." Maybe he did know such a guy, but please . . . He reminds me of Elton John, who can be brilliant at times ("Amoreena"), but at others he makes me want to gag ("Candle in the Wind.").

I still like how Stanley Lumet used Elton John's song, even though it has nothing to do with the movie's plot. (Fifty-cent tolls!) It turns out to be playing on the car radio when the robbers arrive.

 
This song always pisses me off, she's settling because no one swept her off her feet.
I think I get what you mean. The pop-star conundrum again. There is some whiff of phoniness about the song, as if it's something Simon imagined would be popular, but she really has no grasp of what she's talking about.

But then, I had a copy of "Tapestry" in 1971; I was not one of the cool kids (what did they listen to back then?). Carole King could write a bouncy tune, but she had a maudlin side at times too.
 
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Thanks, I didn't realize that there could be a distinction between the two.

Licensing gets very specific. I bought DVDs of a "CSI" season a while back, and they were missing the iconic "Who Are You?" opening music, presumably because it'd been licensed for showing on TV but not for a DVD release.
 
Thanks, I didn't realize that there could be a distinction between the two. I like how the credits and song are timed together. Probably credits were shorter in 1987. Nowadays, they seem to need two songs for it. Not that anybody but a few watch closing credits at all, at least in a theater. :unsure:
Kubrick was notoriously tight fisted - as is Mick Jagger. Kubrick would have paid for movie rights, because they were essential, but Jagger probably wanted too much for the soundtrack album song rights. Plus the Stone's copyright issues and publishing/royalty rights from the Paint it Black era are incredibly complicated because of Allen Klein's involvement as their manager. Mick Jagger, by all accounts, keeps a very close watch on his money, after Klein fucked them about in the sixties.
 
It was certainly played to death. It has a Billy Joel conundrum, like many musicians here: he's basically a pop star, and sometimes a good one, but he can also fall into some awkward (infelicitous?) phrasings to get the rhyming correct. "He's talking to Davy, who is still in the Navy. . ." Maybe he did know such a guy, but please . . .

That one's legit. "Davy" was a real person, David Heintz: https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/11/01/billy-joel-piano-man/?firefox=1

He retired from the Navy in 1987 and died sixteen years later, so it wasn't quite for life.
 
Licensing gets very specific. I bought DVDs of a "CSI" season a while back, and they were missing the iconic "Who Are You?" opening music, presumably because it'd been licensed for showing on TV but not for a DVD release.
Same thing as my previous post.

The Who were able to force their record label to pay for their first high quality CD re-masters because Kit Lambert (their manager in the sixties) wrote (on a whim) the words "transmitted on the end of a laser beam" into the small print of their recording contract. Of course, when he did that, in 1966 or whenever he became manager, CDs hadn't been invented. So the first CD issues of The Who were actually in breach of contract, but no-one knew until they changed manager - to Bill Curbishly, IIRC - a decade or so later.
 
Piano Man is arguably Billy Joel's most famous song (and if it's not the most famous, it's up there), and he hates it. He's said that it's such a simple melody that it's boring to play all the time. And it's 50 years old now, and still overshadows his later work.
That's always an interesting situation when the song the audience wants to hear isn't what the performer wants to play. ("Play Ja Ja Dingdong!")

Not exactly the same thing, but there was an Australian band, The Angels, whose best-known song is "Am I Ever Gonna See Your Face Again?" It starts off like this:

Went down to Santa Fe, where Renoir paints the walls
Described you clearly, but the sky began to fall
Am I ever gonna see your face again
Am I ever gonna see your face again
Trams, cars and taxis, like a waxworks on the move
Carry young girls past me, but none of them are you
Am I ever gonna see your face again
Am I ever gonna see your face again
Without you near me, I got no place to go
Wait at the bar, maybe you might show
Am I ever gonna see your face again
Am I ever gonna see your face again

and so on.

Australian audiences being what they are, they started doing a call-and-response bit where they'd respond to the question by yelling NO WAY GET FUCKED FUCK OFF. Which is funny if you interpret it as a breakup song, and there's nothing to contradict that in the lyrics. But it was actually written about the death of a friend, so I understand the singer was quite shocked when he first got that response while performing it, and I recall some interview where he talked about how dissonant it felt hearing the audience turn that song into a rowdy joke.

But then I saw a performance some years later where he was encouraging that chant himself, so I guess he'd given up and accepted that that was what the song had become. Hard to argue with the money-maker.
 
May I nominate another bad song? While looking up The The (see Djmac, post 144), I also found The Ting Tings.

That's not your name? I thought it was The Ting Tings.

 
He retired from the Navy in 1987 and died sixteen years later, so it wasn't quite for life.
A Lifer in the Navy is someone who makes it a career, rather than someone who stays in for a term or two. Generally for enlisted, that means 20+ years. That he was able to retire means that he made it a career.
 
While I love the song, "Jesse's Girl" is basically about a guy who's obsessing over his friend's girlfriend out of jealousy. Doesn't even give her a name, just named as if a possession of his friend.

Did incels have a name back then? Because this song could be an incel anthem.
Yeah, she's an object to him, not a person. Something that he wants to take from his friend.

It's creepy.
 
While I love the song, "Jesse's Girl" is basically about a guy who's obsessing over his friend's girlfriend out of jealousy. Doesn't even give her a name, just named as if a possession of his friend.

Did incels have a name back then? Because this song could be an incel anthem.
It's not exactly for incels, but it's a big theme in pop music (for adolescents and post-adolescents): obsession about "The One" (thus the term oneitis), instead of the healthier option of just moving on to someone more suitable. The female version is the Taylor Swift song I mentioned above. There are so many male versions that people may not even realize what the song is about: Downtown Train (he's sort of stalking her by going to her house at night), What A Wonderful World (he's in the same classroom as her; that's it), Teenage Dirtbag (that kind of self-loathing requires psychiatric intervention), and many more.

Good song but note the lyrics.

Now, I don't claim to be an A student
But I'm trying to be
For maybe by being an A student, baby
I can win your love for me.

If he really believes that, he is setting himself up for a big disappointment.

 
Downtown Train (he's sort of stalking her by going to her house at night), What A Wonderful World (he's in the same classroom as her; that's it), Teenage Dirtbag (that kind of self-loathing requires psychiatric intervention), and many more.
You're Beautiful by James Blunt is in this as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You're_Beautiful

Blunt said of the song: "It's always been portrayed as romantic, but it’s actually a bit creepy. It’s about a guy (me) who’s high and stalking someone else’s girlfriend on the subway. And then the stalker kills himself."
 
Billy Joel’s story about PIANO MAN reminds me of Radiohead and CREEP. The song was written about feelings of inadequacy in a relationship when Yorke was younger and so he hates playing it.

They didn’t play it for years till somekind of outage or issue occurred on tour left them crippled so they added it on that show as it was something they could play in spite of the issues
 
It's not exactly for incels, but it's a big theme in pop music (for adolescents and post-adolescents): obsession about "The One" (thus the term oneitis), instead of the healthier option of just moving on to someone more suitable. The female version is the Taylor Swift song I mentioned above. There are so many male versions that people may not even realize what the song is about: Downtown Train (he's sort of stalking her by going to her house at night), What A Wonderful World (he's in the same classroom as her; that's it), Teenage Dirtbag (that kind of self-loathing requires psychiatric intervention), and many more.

"Living Next Door To Alice" fits into that category too:

Oh, I don't know why she's leaving, or where she's gonna go
I guess she's got her reasons, but I just don't wanna know
'Cause for 24 years I've been living next door to Alice
24 years just waitin' for a chance
To tell her how I feel and maybe get a second glance
Now I gotta get used to not living next door to Alice

At least the traditional audience response vastly improves that one.
 
Funny thing is I love LOADS of cheesy pop songs that others might (and do) consider garbage, like MMMBOP, Roar, You make me feel like dancing and Shake it Off!

Whenever I feel bad about my tastes, I always think of this…

 
You're Beautiful by James Blunt is in this as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You're_Beautiful
I've heard the song, but I finally saw the video. But Blunt wrote it, so he can't completely disown it. From the way he presents himself in that video, he's got a flair for self-dramatization that that is pretty creepy in itself. (He also needs a new pair of sneakers.)

The guy in Downtown Train knows where her house is, and I assume he sees her on their daily commute from a nearby subway station. At least it took him some time to get momentum for his obsession.
 
I confess I googled for some, but before that the Rob Thicke song, which I'm sure has been mentioned.
Every breath you Take from The Police is a song about stalking
Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you...
... Oh, can't you see
You belong to me?

What I find enlightening is that lyrics reflect the writer's mindset, behind all the marketing gloss and so shones a light on their attitudes: often misogynistic, often racist with women typically being called 'young girl'.
And Sting won a Grammy for Song of The Year. The Police were a product of an early wave of music videos, and they ran with it. I'm a bit suspicious of musicians that have to give themselves a new, single name. Just curious, when we're they racist?
 
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