Half Of Minnesota's Students Can't Read At Grade Level

[Sean Renaud]

Democrat governors wrecked their states, violated the Constitutional rights of their citizens, destroyed their businesses, and harmed in the extreme their kids. Florida being the shining exception.

You claim the states were wrecked but you thought they were wrecked ten years ago. Besides I'd rather be "wrecked" than dead. Something we disagree on. What exact Constitutional right did they violate? The Rightwing constantly brings up a document they clearly don't understand mostly because they know how hard it is to argue with dead men. Yes businesses suffered, oh fucking well. The kids were harmed, there wasn't a good alternative. Florida is not a Democrat state anymore, they are fairly dependably red. Florida isn't exactly a great state, its not awful but thats an exception for being in the South.

 

[ll74]

Democrat governors wrecked their states, violated the Constitutional rights of their citizens, destroyed their businesses, and harmed in the extreme their kids. Florida being the shining exception.

No, they didn't...they followed the lead of the CDC to take precautions to stop the spread of a deadly disease - Republicans and Democrats alike

 

[phrodeau]

If remote learning was so detrimental to students, then how harmful is home schooling?

 

[Sean Renaud]

The two aren't comparable. Remote learning is one teacher, thirty students on a voice chat. The teacher has absolutely no power in this situation. Not gonna lie I would be playing Call of Duty in class. A lot of kids didn't even sign in (my mother and sister are teachers so I had to listen to whining about this over the holidays) or clearly weren't paying any attention. Its harder to see who is struggling yadda yadda.

Home school is (usually) one parent, one student so assuming the teacher is capable they get so much more personal attention than they would in a classroom and infinitely more than you get in remote learning.

I don't like home schooling cus every person I've ever met who grew up home schooled are socially stunted. I'm fucked socially and even I pick up on certain cues.

 

[Rightguide]

You claim the states were wrecked but you thought they were wrecked ten years ago. Besides I'd rather be "wrecked" than dead. Something we disagree on. What exact Constitutional right did they violate? The Rightwing constantly brings up a document they clearly don't understand mostly because they know how hard it is to argue with dead men. Yes businesses suffered, oh fucking well. The kids were harmed, there wasn't a good alternative. Florida is not a Democrat state anymore, they are fairly dependably red. Florida isn't exactly a great state, its not awful but thats an exception for being in the South.

You didn't know me ten years ago so you wreck your credibility when you start off with a blatant lie.

 

[Rightguide]

You claim the states were wrecked but you thought they were wrecked ten years ago. Besides I'd rather be "wrecked" than dead. Something we disagree on. What exact Constitutional right did they violate? The Rightwing constantly brings up a document they clearly don't understand mostly because they know how hard it is to argue with dead men. Yes businesses suffered, oh fucking well. The kids were harmed, there wasn't a good alternative. Florida is not a Democrat state anymore, they are fairly dependably red. Florida isn't exactly a great state, its not awful but thats an exception for being in the South.

There was no constitutional power to lock people up in their homes and shut down the economy. They did it anyway.

 

[ll74]

There was no constitutional power to lock people up in their homes and shut down the economy. They did it anyway.

Nobody was locked in their homes.

 

[Sean Renaud]

There was no constitutional power to lock people up in their homes and shut down the economy. They did it anyway.

Doesn't need to be. That's not how it works.

 

[phrodeau]

Lockdowns are what they do in schools when a gun nut is loose. During the pandemic, they were much less frequent.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

Total bullshit. Billions have been thrown at Teacher's unions and all that's happened is they get richer, have more benefits, they work less, while standards and student learning decline. People in this country learned more in actual everyday knowledge in one-room schoolhouses in days of old than they do now in these leftwing brainwashing institutions we call "schools" today.

‘Billions have been thrown at Teacher's unions and all that's happened is they get richer, have more benefits, they work less, while standards and student learning decline.’

‘Billions have been thrown at Teacher's unions…’

Source, please!

’…all that's happened is they get richer, have more benefits…’

So Randi Weingarten gets what — about $500,000 per year. In exchange, strikes are shut down, educators are isolated and are forced into sellout contracts. Schools become holding pens for kids so that their parents are freed from child care in order to work and produce profit for owners.

But isn’t that what the fascistic right has wanted for generations? An educated population will not be mastered easily.

I submit: devolution of public education allows the ruling classes to sleep easier. They want children to have only enough education to complete forms and run the machines. Do you think it an accident that more whispers are heard of child labor?

Tyrants often feign meek public outrage to societal crises while enforcing budgetary cuts, job bloodbaths, facility closures, etc. which are prime drivers of crises.

Can you offer any compelling, principled reasons for which we should NOT believe such a process is at work here? After all…if kids aren’t in holding pens, parents must stay home and the wealthy will be unable to extract from them the profit of their labor.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Lockdowns are what they do in schools when a gun nut is loose. During the pandemic, they were much less frequent.

We didn't even have an actual lockdown.

What China, Japan, Australia did, those were real lockdowns. America did the lite beer version and still cried over it. We are fucked when something deadlier hits us.

 

[YDB95]

In Australia we called it a lockdown, but you were allowed outside for an hour a day.

And look, I remember well that it was no fun. But desperate times, desperate measures. There really was no good alternative in this case. As for businesses being harmed, the government provided support for getting businesses through the worst of it. But we all know what Rightguard thinks of any sort of government activism whatsoever.

 

[Sean Renaud]

In Australia we called it a lockdown, but you were allowed outside for an hour a day.

And look, I remember well that it was no fun. But desperate times, desperate measures. There really was no good alternative in this case. As for businesses being harmed, the government provided support for getting businesses through the worst of it. But we all know what Rightguard thinks of any sort of government activism whatsoever.

We could go outside all we wanted. IT didn't take long for fast food to reopen, granted us "Essential" workers couldn't survive without them but still.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

We could go outside all we wanted. IT didn't take long for fast food to reopen, granted us "Essential" workers couldn't survive without them but still.

The most we did at the height of it during the first year was establish curfews. Bars closed up at 10pm and all non-essential workers had to be off the streets at midnight. To be honest, that was enforced somewhat loosely here, given that NYC is a 24-hour city.

They had to create a law on takeout liquor services and all bars that wanted to stay in biz had to serve some type of food. Masks were mandatory for riding public transit. I worked from home 90% of the time during up until now so I don't know how well they enforced that, but I do know that cops didn't mask up much and many people who visually looked around 20-to-30 years old rarely masked. Even before the first vax rollouts. We keep having these small surges of variants popping up now alongside the original strain. I basically didn't trust anyone and am still masking. But I was outdoors milling about for exercise and mind cleanses every day the weather was nice.

So yeah, things were curtailed to an extent but we never had a total block on freedom of mobility.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances