Comshaw
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There was a reason for the push to allow 18 YO's to vote and to drink. At the time the draft was taking 18 YO's and sending them over to get their asses shot off in southeast Asia. People saw it as only right if they could fight and die then they should be able to vote and drink.It's all 50 states now. It's an interesting history.
In 1971 the 26th Amendment to the US Constitution lowered the national voting age to 18. At that time, a few states had drinking ages under 21, some allowed 18/19 year olds beer and wine only, others were open. My native state never had nor ever will go under 21.
Through the 1970s, a number of additional states lowered their drinking ages to 18 or 19. For my youth, that a neighboring state did this led to various interesting occurrences.[1] But it was only slightly over half of the states that had drinking ages under 21.
That said, the fact that Americans are unable to do anything moderately, there was a claimed uptick in drunk driving accidents amongst the 'young'. A constant drumbeat finally resulted in the passage of the National Minimum Drinking Age Act in 1984. Now... something like regulation of drinking ages is one of the things devolved to the states, this federal law couldn't actually raise the drinking ages.
Instead, it told the states that if you didn't raise your drinking ages to 21 by October, 1986, the state would lose federal highway funds. "Really nice roads ya got in your state, be a shame anything happened to them..." A few states kicked and screamed, but eventually all of them conformed by 1988.[2]
[1] In my youth, my state's Highway Patrol would sit at the border to a state that had an 18 year drinking age. They'd look for two sorts. Obviously drunk drivers (weaving, etc.) And cars full of 'young' people. The first they'd pull over for the usual. The latter they'd pull over for, oh, "looks like your taillight is out" or "didn't signal lane change." Then... they'd insist on checking the trunk (boot) and if they found, as they hoped, a few cases of beer, they wouldn't arrest anyone. They'd make the folks in the car pour it all out. Then say "have a nice day."
[2] Prior to the 1980s, US military bases in the US allowed 18 year old soldiers to drink. But, like the broader society, that was upped through the decade to 21. US military bases outside of the US generally follow local age laws but local commanders can decide to limit to 21.
Personally I don't disagree with the 21 YO drinking age. I don't think young people that age are mature enough (hell some of us ain't mature enough at 30 ) to drink. BUT I also believe no young person should be drafted OR allowed to join the military until they are 21 either. If you're going to ask them to fight and die for you, you should allow them equality of status. I felt that way in 1970 when they drafted me and I still feel that way. Anything else is being a hypocrite.
Yeah. My family is from Oklahoma, Muskogee to be exact. My grandfather was bootlegger who made whiskey in Oklahoma and ran it to Chicago. From him and my grandmother I learned he made a thousand dollars a week and in those times that was some really good money. Unfortunately I also learned from my grandmother that my granddad would spend the majority of that cash in Chicago partying and gambling. My grandmother mean wile stayed home taking care of 8 kids on what ever she could earn washing clothes and selling produce out of her garden and eggs from her hen house. Bootlegging (at least how it was done by my ancestor) wasn't a romantic thing like in the movies.According to my dad, when he was a kid, women in Oklahoma over 18 but under 21 could buy beer. Guys of the same age range could not. Also, Oklahoma was wet by county, with many counties being dry. Moonshining was an old and honored tradition in the southeastern part of the state. Rumors abounded that much of the bourbon sold in Chicago, by none other than Al Capone, was purchased in Oklahoma. Aged in the barrel, just like Kentucky and Tennesee.
Comshaw