Are women really as cold-blooded IRL as represented in Loving Wives?

[LdyHoneybee]

I've been getting interested in the Loving Wives category the last several days, and I read stories of wives running off with football stars for a wild weekend without as much as a peep to their husbands, or wives that announce that they're about to fuck a multi-millionaire to their husband because they don't consider it cheating, or otherwise give some delusional rationalization that after their fling everything will be alright with their marriage when they return.

While it makes for an interesting story, I have to wonder: Do sluts like this exist in the real world?! My ex and I split up because we got to where we were just roommates with occasional benefits. Thank God we hadn't had children before the split!

But enough about me. I only mention it because I cannot believe there are women out their so delusional, so cruel as to pull something like this and come back thinking everything would be like it was. Please tell me this is just fantasy, a trope, a McGuffin, please?

Some probably are. I know a lot of women, though, and none of them are.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Are the females I write about in my cuckold/hot-wife stories “cold blooded?” Damn right they are, though the wording “cold blooded” seems to carry negative connotations. I love trying to write such female characters. Those types of characters are a part of “my fantasy” and I hope the fantasy of the relatively small audience I attract. Those female characters tend to be clear sighted, know what they want, are will-full, and intelligently orchestrate circumstances and arrange people to get what they want and what they deserve. They are game playing mistresses who conjure their own reality into existence with their “magic.”

Most of the husbands in my stories are enthralled by their wives. They are the wide eyed gasping “victims” of their game playing/risk taking/I’ll see just how far I can push it ladies. They realize their wives are at the center of the universe and hence all of their wives whims and desires must be catered for, including and most particularly/importantly their wives whims and desires around sexual satisfaction.

Those are the types of strong female characters I prefer to read about. They don't need to be manipulative and uncaring. But they can be strong willed in getting what they want!

I don't care for husbands portrayed as weak, manipulated, or humiliated. They can be equal partners in the relationship.

But the trolls still 1-bomb those stories. It's how they get off.

 

[waltdee]

Wow! I really stirred up a hornet's nest!

I'm debating whether or not to respond to the attacks or just let the post die, because it seems that I could say that the sky is blue and the Earth s round, and I'm going to piss off somebody.

 

[TxRad]

Nope, but this a subject that seems to circulate around at least once a month. People are just tired of the same old merry-go-round that has no brass ring.

 

[sirhugs]

Wow! I really stirred up a hornet's nest!

I'm debating whether or not to respond to the attacks or just let the post die, because it seems that I could say that the sky is blue and the Earth s round, and I'm going to piss off somebody.

well, the colour of the sky shifts with the weather. And everybody including my steed knows that the Earth is flat.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Wow! I really stirred up a hornet's nest!

I'm debating whether or not to respond to the attacks or just let the post die, because it seems that I could say that the sky is blue and the Earth s round, and I'm going to piss off somebody.

Within any category or type of stories you find here, there are those authors and their followers who defend their particular kinks/sex/choices/attitudes, etc against all opinions which deviate. There are dozens of trigger words and phrases which catch the attention of those who defend their "side".

So, in the forums (Author's Hangout in this case), the word game threads are the least likely to offend. Any other search for opinions on kinks/sex/choices/attitudes, etc in this modern era of instant global communication will likely draw at least one hornet out of a nest.

As I said in my first response here to your original question: There really exists ALL KINDS of people in this world.

But you shouldn't fear the hornets when asking the questions. Some people might learn something. (I recently learned that "LIKING" a story by rating it a 4 is a bad thing to do to some of these authors. You must LOVE their work with a 5, or you are the enemy!)

 

[tenyari]

I've met both men and women that were "total a**hats". The thing about having a toxic personality is you tend to run with your own kind.

The rest of us might encounter one in the wild now and then, but we instinctively steer clear once we figure out "WTF is going on all up in here?"

I had a rough period in my early 20s where I sat on the razers edge of "will I be a total F-up in life" or "will I make it through this"? In that time, I met a lot of bad actors. They pull you in. They want to be normal, so they seek others like them, and they seek those on a tipping point who can either become like them or who they believe will pull them out of it (but the only person who can ever save you is yourself).

Eventually I hit my "WTF is all up in this?" point and got out of that scene.

People with these sorts of personalities believe they're common, because part of the mental defense mechanism is being in denial that one is a freak. And you also migrate towards like minded folks, and folks that will be enablers.

I can distinctly recall one woman and one man who both had this kind of personality.

I also knew one woman that kept a 'harem' of young 'fuck studs' - she was in everyway the "Classic Hero" of half of literotica's stories, except she had the wrong genitals. And I've know my share of male and female sluts, and also male and female "hot but super shy virgins", and so on...

I wouldn't take the character types seen in stories here as realistic.

I mean, if you're the sort who believes every story that was ever in the Penthouse Letters column back in the day was true, believes every story in a 'Dear Abby' column is true, and believe Reddit's "Am I the a**hat" column is non-fiction... then OK... but that's on you, not reality.

 

[tenyari]

I don't have a problem with the 21st century label cis male, but will point out that for three-quarters of my life I just thought I was a hetero male. It's only been the last fifteen years or so that I discovered there was another badge I could wear (except I don't wear badges, and I don't think anyone really needs to).

I'm getting label fatigue. Too many letters being attached to EVERYONE. LGBTQ seems to add another letter to it every few years, now we have cis, non-cis, etc and so on.

Maybe I'm just getting old. The change in labels seems to happen everytime we add another label to the new young people. Boomer, X, Y, Z, and now what... With each of them coming up, they want to stick new labels on everything and make everyone learn them - then as soon as we get used to them, they change them all.

As a 'multi-racial' latin american my 'race / ethnicity' changes more often than I switch the lightswitch in my office... and each time it does there are young people telling me the term I used to call myself is offensive now. Some of those are right - if they were originally made for the purpose of putting us down. But sometimes it's just... come on people...

I know WTF I am, but I have no idea WTF I am...

 

[DreamingOfMyEx]

Hmmm. I was thinking of weighing in on the original question until I read the other comments. Now I think I'll just go to Loving Wives and read stories where the people are relatively normal, happy, and well-adjusted.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I'm getting label fatigue. Too many letters being attached to EVERYONE. LGBTQ seems to add another letter to it every few years, now we have cis, non-cis, etc and so on.

Maybe I'm just getting old. ..... But sometimes it's just... come on people...

I know WTF I am, but I have no idea WTF I am...

Getting old? It's better than the alternative.

“Every day above ground is a great day” (Pitbull lyric in the song 'The Time of Our Lives')

 

[Bubo_bubo]

I never had much trouble wrapping my head around the cis label, having studied both Latin (Gallia Cisalpina and Gallia Transalpina) and organic chemistry (cis & trans isomers).

 

[lovecraft68]

Wow! I really stirred up a hornet's nest!

I'm debating whether or not to respond to the attacks or just let the post die, because it seems that I could say that the sky is blue and the Earth s round, and I'm going to piss off somebody.

The issue isn't with the stories, its with the readership over there, and how disgustingly toxic they are and how they're pretty much an online headquarters for the incel movement. They've driven off a lot of readers, authors, and they've been spreading into other categories and this site, which screens all comments, let's it all fly because for some reason they think raw hatred is somehow free speech.

But...only if its directed at women. As learned in a recent thread if anything happens to a fictional man, in a fictional story, its immediately acted upon.

So a lot of ill will has grown over the category, and as someone above said, it's getting discussed more and more and I think each time people are getting less patience and more pissed off and caring less about what they say.

Except for me, I never care what I say

 

[lovecraft68]

I never had much trouble wrapping my head around the cis label, having studied both Latin (Gallia Cisalpina and Gallia Transalpina) and organic chemistry (cis & trans isomers).

For me its the irony of people crying about labels who want to label everyone else....including themselves.
When we can get back to being people and talking about people with no other descriptive around that term, we'll have gotten somewhere, but these progressives are ensuring all we do is go backwards because they live on victimhood and martyrdom...reality is no one cares who and what they are, or wouldn't if they could manage to stop talking about it every five seconds.

 

[MillieDynamite]

If you must label me, label me a writer. But, if you want to call me a high yellow beauty, I wouldn't complain. LOL

 

[sirhugs]

For me its the irony of people crying about labels who want to label everyone else....including themselves.
When we can get back to being people and talking about people with no other descriptive around that term, we'll have gotten somewhere, but these progressives are ensuring all we do is go backwards because they live on victimhood and martyrdom...reality is no one cares who and what they are, or wouldn't if they could manage to stop talking about it every five seconds. [emphasis added]

strong;y disagree- just consider the "wars" over trabs folks and bathrooms- it is not the "progressives" that started those (and DO Not respond by telling me that the trans folk should "just use the right batroom" or I will know you are just a bigot. Though I prefer unisex bathrooms, if someone identifies as a particular gender, that i the batroom they should use)

 

[lovecraft68]

strong;y disagree- just consider the "wars" over trabs folks and bathrooms- it is not the "progressives" that started those (and DO Not respond by telling me that the trans folk should "just use the right batroom" or I will know you are just a bigot. Though I prefer unisex bathrooms, if someone identifies as a particular gender, that i the batroom they should use)

You're branding yourself right down to defaulting to I'm a bigot if I disagree.
Tell you what, call me what you will, when I'm with my grand daughter and she goes into the bathroom, no one who looks like a man is walking in there until she leaves. Period.

Why? Because people like you like to think "oh, trans people, all so good, so misunderstood" yeah, well good and bad in all, and odds are this person is a decent person...but...predators use things like this. "I'm trans, gonna wander into the girls room to peek at women and little girls with their panties down

So play moral crusader all you want like a deluded brainwashed fool

I live in the real world where people are sick, and you don't know who is or who isn't because they don't say "Hey, I'm just a cool trans person who feels I should use this bathroom or "Hi, I'm a sick child molester who wants to touch your little girl under the guys of being something I'm not."

I've been around victims of abuse my entire life, people like you and your whining have no idea what's really out there.

I'll waste words because the terminally pilled never like other points of view or harsh reality. As I was taught years ago, I teach the women in my class by this example.

You're walking down the street at night, few people around, shady area. You come to a corner. Straight is where you want to go nut in front of you are four young black men in gang bang attire on the stoop. First reaction is, okay four guys I'm alone bad area...I should go the other way

But because of people like you...we hear "Oh, but they're black, if I go the other way they'll think I'm racist, maybe I am racist....I'll walk by so sirhugs and his hivemind army might think poorly of me. Now...if she goes forward I'd like to think she's fine, these kids are just hanging out shooting the shit. No harm no foul...or she's dragged into the house and raped.

There is no do overs. You err on the side of caution and tough shit if someone is offended.

Back to my first point. Want in that bathroom while a woman I'm with is in there? Go through me. The answer is three bathrooms, but chains don't want to invest that kind of money so....we get this dilemma and I'd rather hurt someone's feelings than see someone be hurt.

Proceed with the name calling, then read my signature for the effect it will have.

 

[lovecraft68]

Wirth noting a topic that started about women has devolved into wahhhh 'marginalized people and bigots'
Another example how women do not matter....led by the fools who have to now refuse to define a woman.
Women have 0 allies in the political spectrum or anywhere as displayed here most every day and in most every way.

 

[TadOverdon]

If it were common IRL people wouldn't come looking for it on a site full of fantasies.

 

[other2other1]

One of the reasons that I started writing in Loving Wives is that there were several instances of infidelity around me. In my stories, some commenters have mentioned that the drama I write wouldn't happen in real life. In the past week, I have caught up with three of the people that are dealing with marriage breakups due to infidelity, and one of them as told me of an encounter that makes the opening scene in my series, the nuclear family, a little tame...

I think that IRL, marriage breakdowns and infidelity between previously loving spouses are a huge loss to everyone. I know in the LW category, those of us who write about the emotional side of cheating is usually basing it on something real (at least, that is where most of MY story concepts start). An event, a conversation or, worst case, an experience that has happened to us, each case is different, each breakup a tragedy.

 

[waltdee]

One of the reasons that I started writing in Loving Wives is that there were several instances of infidelity around me. In my stories, some commenters have mentioned that the drama I write wouldn't happen in real life. In the past week, I have caught up with three of the people that are dealing with marriage breakups due to infidelity, and one of them as told me of an encounter that makes the opening scene in my series, the nuclear family, a little tame...

I think that IRL, marriage breakdowns and infidelity between previously loving spouses are a huge loss to everyone. I know in the LW category, those of us who write about the emotional side of cheating is usually basing it on something real (at least, that is where most of MY story concepts start). An event, a conversation or, worst case, an experience that has happened to us, each case is different, each breakup a tragedy.

Just so you know, I'm a fanboi of yours.

 

[other2other1]

Just so you know, I'm a fanboi of yours.

thanks Waltdee. Always great to know my stories are appreciated.

Actually, in an interesting turn of events, the guy that I based Robbie off in 'The Nuclear Family', is coming bringing his daughters to come to hang out for some drinks (we both enjoy a Kraken) and pizza tonight. I don't think it will eventuate in another chapter for the story. But who knows...

 

[waltdee]

Are you saying that really happened to him? The wife came home and said "This is the way it's going to be; I'm going on a date"? Without any warning or clue?

 

[lovecraft68]

Oh, great, we have an alleged real life "wah women bad" thing going on here. Always the women, always the woman. Guys are innocent, hard working, great fathers, perfect lovers, they live and breath for their wives, and those evil evil ungrateful whores cheat on them anyway!

Pure male inspired fantasy. Cry me a river with that BS.

I'd start a follow up thread, are men really that whiny, but it's a rhetorical question.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I can see a woman flaunting her dating to her husband when they are separated. I can see her dilly-dallying behind his back. I can see him knowing by mutual agreement (open marriage or willing cuckold). I can't imagine a woman announcing her intention to play around as described. Sounds more like the incel angry fantasy.

 

[lovecraft68]

Sounds more like the incel angry fantasy.

Is there any other kind? The author has some red H's in LW, guess that's how you get them, commiserating with whiny losers gets their vote.