Let's talk about guns, shootings, solutions and idiotic suggestions

[UltraMAGAKing]

https://i.imgur.com/iGa6KBY.png

I love how much the right to defend oneself against violent leftist, upsets leftist.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/opinions/2022/06/08/retired-marine-gun-control-opinion-orig-jm-dp.cnn

This is a fair logical step.

Authoritarianism, dribble is a huge fan.

It's not logical.... it's an agenda push because fee fees.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Background checks and Red Flag laws are well and good, but realistically they will be more work that is not necessary in 99.99% of cases. The tiny percent that do would require a lot more research into someone's background to figure out if they're actually a threat, ie searching their social media posts, interviewing their associates, digging into their mental history background. To find the one loon you have to search everybody at the same level.

You have to obviously raise the age to purchase and crack down on private sales and do a more thorough criminal background check ie spousal abuse charges. But in the end we have to do what every other sane rational nation has done and start removing the types of guns used in mass shootings, as New Zealand did after Christchurch:

“I can tell you one thing right now,” Ardern told reporters less than 24 hours after the Christchurch shooting, “our gun laws will change.” On March 21, 2019 — six days after the attack — Ardern announced that not only would her government ban all the weapons used by the gunman, it would outlaw most semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles altogether. The only exceptions were for police, soldiers and professional pest controllers. To avert the stockpiling of weapons before the law went into effect, an interim order limiting their acquisition was put in place minutes before her news release was distributed.

“On 15 March our history changed forever,” Ardern’s announcement said. “Now our laws will too.”

The measures did not go as far as Australia’s 1996 reforms. But it was sweeping change for New Zealand. Penalties for owning a banned weapon would be between two and 10 years in jail. And there would be a six-month amnesty period, Ardern said, during which the government would buy back — or pay to make legal — any prohibited guns.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

But in the end we have to do what every other sane rational nation has done and start removing the types of guns used in mass shootings,

No, we don't.

And without shitcanning our civil right to those guns, you're not going to.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Citizens have the civil right to life and liberty while going to the school or grocery store or church.

My right not to die in a mass shooting perpetrated by a weapon of mass killing > your "civil right" to that gun.

No, we don't.

And without shitcanning our civil right to those guns, you're not going to.

This is why America is fucked up. We get this kind of idiot response while every other civilized nation just banned the guns.

 

[Dribble]

^^^Fascist traitor that won't listen to fellow Republicans when they suggest potential solutions. Know why? Because they want anarchy

 

[HisArpy]

Citizens have the civil right to life and liberty while going to the school or grocery store or church.

My right not to die in a mass shooting perpetrated by a weapon of mass killing > your "civil right" to that gun.

This is why America is fucked up. We get this kind of idiot response while every other civilized nation just banned the guns.

You don't have a "right not to die."

What you DO have is a right to defend yourself. If you choose not to do that and instead pee your pants, that's on you. Your right to pee your pants has nothing to do with me or my right to defend myself at all.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Citizens have the civil right to life and liberty while going to the school or grocery store or church.

Yup. And??

Murder is illegal.

My right not to die in a mass shooting perpetrated by a weapon of mass killing > your "civil right" to that gun.

The two have nothing to do with each other.

And there are no need for quotes as it's an actual enumerated civil right, unlike your "right not to die" or the "right" to abortion for example.

This is why America is fucked up.

No, America is fucked up because people like you have degraded our civil rights.

We get this kind of idiot response while every other civilized nation just banned the guns.

Yet you won't move.

Your right to feel safer doesn't trump my right to actually be safer.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

^^^Fascist traitor that won't listen to fellow Republicans when they suggest potential solutions. Know why? Because they want anarchy

She's a socialist, not a fascist, close... very close.... but not quite the same.

And the only people who want anarchy are the (D)'eez who refuse to enforce the law.

 

[dmonty]

Idiot suggestions?

Arm the teachers.

and yet historically before Gun Free Zones, the teachers, staff and even sometimes the students all went to school armed, some left the guns in their cars, other carried into the school no issues - students generally were required to give theirs to a teacher for the day.. So before CA 1960, NY 1970 and federally in 1990 there were no laws disarming school staff and mass/school shootings happened about 2-3 every 10 years, after the unconstitutional laws took effect school shootings increased exponentially going to 20+ per year... so it isn't guns in school that was the issue (many high schools had gun ranges on campus, even in NYC, and students regularly carried their guns on the subways going to school, to shoot on their teams), it only became an issue when innocent were disarmed by unconstitutional laws, that only the criminally violent that ignored the laws to begin with were armed and causing mayhem.

 

[phrodeau]

Your right to feel safer doesn't trump my right to actually be safer.

You’re not safer amongst an arsenal. It’s just your fee fees.

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

You’re not safer amongst an arsenal. It’s just your fee fees.

In the real world it's actually not.....
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/guns-4-768x460.png

 

[Msh1313]

Let’s allow anyone to bring loaded weapons of any kind into the SCOTUS and Congress. Bet there would be some rethinking of the 2nd Amendment then

 

[dmonty]

Let’s allow anyone to bring loaded weapons of any kind into the SCOTUS and Congress. Bet there would be some rethinking of the 2nd Amendment then

Until a 1967 unconstitutional law that banned civilians from carrying guns on Capitol Hill, anyone could and did. interestingly the law was pushed through under the US Capitol Traffic Regulations for the Capitol Grounds https://www.uscp.gov/sites/uscapito...egulations_Amended February 2019.pdf#page=234

As for SCOTUS no idea when they started to prevent the people from carrying, it never made public knowledge as to what law/when that the ban took place.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

"Now that we live in an age of uber-corporate responsibility where every large company in America bends over backwards to get on the politically correct side of every issue, Hollywood has to tell us. Why does that not include gun violence?" When liberals scream, ‘Do something!’ after a mass shooting, why aren't we also dealing with the fact that the average American kid sees 200,000 acts of violence on screens before the age of 18 and that according to the FBI, one of the warning signs of a potential school shooter is ‘a fascination with violence-filled entertainment?’

"It's funny, Hollywood is the wokest place on Earth in every other area of social responsibility. They have intimacy coordinators on set to chaperone sex scenes, they hire sensitivity readers to go through and edit scripts, Disney stood up to the 'Don't Say Gay' law, another studio spent $10 million to digitally remove Kevin Spacey from a movie, but when it comes to the unbridled romanticization of gun violence, crickets. Weird. The only thing we don't call a trigger is the one that actually has a trigger."

Bill Maher

For a Lefty, a times, he makes a lot of sense...
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

For a Lefty, a times, he makes a lot of sense...
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

Bill is a Liberal.... actual liberal... not a lefty.

That's why the left is so mad at him lately.

If the Democrats keep on their trajectory of authoritarian and totalitarian socialism as well as LGBTQA+ celebration at gunpoint? He'll be a republican by 2025. Kinda like that ALT-REICH white supremacist Dave Chapelle.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

For a Lefty, a times, he makes a lot of sense...

Unlike you.

 

[Sh1ne0n67]

There's plenty of room for him in the Libertarian Party.

(We have lots of empty space under our tent, and he doesn't take up very much.)


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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

Unlike you.

Awwww AntiFA is all upset the comedians are all giving totalitarian leftist like himself a hard pass........ WAHHH!!!

LOL

There's plenty of room for him in the Libertarian Party.

(We have lots of empty space under our tent, and he doesn't take up very much.)


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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

He's closer to Libertarians than Democrats at this point.

He's pro free-speech..... Dems can't stand that.

He can not only write a decent joke but take one too.

Understands the concept of using money to buy things instead of just stealing,

He doesn't defend looting and rioting, even condemns it.

Understands that some people might have an issue with viewing abortion as some totally untouchable right beyond any regulation that's extended up to 6 months post birth......

He realizes drag strip shows in public schools instead of ABC's and 123's MIGHT.... JUST MAYBE raise some concerns.

And having questions and concerns about that doesn't actually make anyone a Nazi who's just terrified of gender fluidity.

These things mean Bill is now an Alt-Reich FASCIST by most Democrat standards. He's slowly figuring it out the Democrats have lost their fucking minds, but it's happening.

 

[Dribble]

She's a socialist, not a fascist, close... very close.... but not quite the same.

And the only people who want anarchy are the (D)'eez who refuse to enforce the law.

I was talking about you

 

[jaF0]

Dribbs only talks about sedition.

Lock him/her up!!!

 

[UltraMAGAKing]

I was talking about you

Seems more like you were projecting.

But let's break it down.

^^^Fascist traitor that won't listen to fellow Republicans when they suggest potential solutions. Know why? Because they want anarchy

1) If I were a fascist why would I want anarchy?? Can't be a fascist and an anarchist, those things are directly opposed to one another. You would know that if you had any basic understanding of what those words mean.... thanks for proving you don't have a clue.

2) Why would I listen to "fellow Republicans" ?? I'm not a collectivist, I'm not a partisan and I don't like the vast majority of Republicans, most are far too authoritarian.

3) Traitor.... how do you figure?? Or is that another word you need to look up???

 

[Dribble]

Seems more like you were projecting.

But let's break it down.



1) If I were a fascist why would I want anarchy?? Can't be a fascist and an anarchist, those things are directly opposed to one another. You would know that if you had any basic understanding of what those words mean.... thanks for proving you don't have a clue.

2) Why would I listen to "fellow Republicans" ?? I'm not a collectivist, I'm not a partisan and I don't like the vast majority of Republicans, most are far too authoritarian.

3) Traitor.... how do you figure?? Or is that another word you need to look up???

Yes...let's break this down shall we...

1) You are automatically a Fascist if you support either an individual or a policy promoted by a Fascist. There is no grey here. You have openly supported anarchist ideals here....that is why you have been repeatedly banned. Anarchy is a stepping stone towards implementation of a Fascist state. History proves this.

2) the typical I am not a Republican argument. Yet you openly support every statement and policy promoted by the Party. Sorry....it doesn't work like that. Actions speak...not your empty words.

3) Traitor...100%. You again have openly supported the Jan 6th coup attempt. And you make excuses for those that participated. Simple....just like Point One for making a Fascist. Anyone supporting a traitor...is a traitor. Again...no grey area here.

I have no problem with people being a Fascist traitor....if they have the balls to admit it. Grow some balls bobo

 

[phrodeau]

“It’s funny,” said a comedian. Did Bill Maher mention that any entertainment containing gun violence carries a content warning or rating to encourage parental engagement? Or that screening services and devices have lockable settings to moderate violent content? Parents who ignore these features do a disservice to their children.

 

[bhurry]

and yet historically before Gun Free Zones, the teachers, staff and even sometimes the students all went to school armed, some left the guns in their cars, other carried into the school no issues - students generally were required to give theirs to a teacher for the day.. So before CA 1960, NY 1970 and federally in 1990 there were no laws disarming school staff and mass/school shootings happened about 2-3 every 10 years, after the unconstitutional laws took effect school shootings increased exponentially going to 20+ per year... so it isn't guns in school that was the issue (many high schools had gun ranges on campus, even in NYC, and students regularly carried their guns on the subways going to school, to shoot on their teams), it only became an issue when innocent were disarmed by unconstitutional laws, that only the criminally violent that ignored the laws to begin with were armed and causing mayhem.

There is no such thing as a Gun Free zone.