Omicron.

[LukSkyFokker]

Undistanced? Who goes near a homeless person?

Ishtard and Dr. Coroanger are non-critical thinking morons.

 

[Sean]

Each other.

Regarding sean's assertion. Efforts are being made to get the homeless vaccinated but they are still well below the averages for their particular state(s). I'm not even going to bother looking up Europe.

So now we've gone from "uniformly unvaccinated" to below the state average. Stay in your lane, you ignorant fuck.

 

[Conager]

Undistanced? Who goes near a homeless person?

Their drug dealers, other homeless people, everyone they panhandle from, and the liquor store clerks.

Their squalid little encampments look like Calcutta.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Lawlz

 

[Chernosoth]

I could start assuming the most insulting members are dying, due to medical decisions and poisoning themselves with their hate.

 

[Rotadom]

"99% of the people who died from the vaccine had underlying problems."

This is a fun game.

 

[Champakian]

Pretty much the same case can be made for those who died of Covid
and, as we have observed, it has cut into the flu death rate...

Although, like AIDS, I rather suspect that many of
those deaths were cause conjectured;
especially in the beginning.

 

[Conager]

The $9,000 death-by-covid benefit probably helps people decide whether or not they "suspect covid was a contributing factor" in a death.

Pre-Covid, we lost 300,000 mostly indigent Alzheimer's patients a year. Has Covid cured Alzheimer's the way it cured the flu and pneumonia?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Although, like AIDS, I rather suspect that many of
those deaths were cause conjectured;
especially in the beginning.

Yes, AJ, those first HIV deaths in the Congo during the 50s and the AIDS deaths in the 70s infected in Africa were all conjecture. Fucking moron.

 

[Champakian]

The $9,000 death-by-covid benefit probably helps people decide whether or not they "suspect covid was a contributing factor" in a death.

Pre-Covid, we lost 300,000 mostly indigent Alzheimer's patients a year. Has Covid cured Alzheimer's the way it cured the flu and pneumonia?

*chuckle*

 

[oggbashan]

The $9,000 death-by-covid benefit probably helps people decide whether or not they "suspect covid was a contributing factor" in a death.

Pre-Covid, we lost 300,000 mostly indigent Alzheimer's patients a year. Has Covid cured Alzheimer's the way it cured the flu and pneumonia?

The 9,000 are those suspected of having had Covid vaccination side effects. The deaths, possibly vaccine-related are maybe - NINE!

 

[bellisarius]

The 9,000 are those suspected of having had Covid vaccination side effects. The deaths, possibly vaccine-related are maybe - NINE!

It's considerably more than that Ogg. That's not to detract from the benefits of the vaccine, but it is something that each individual has to take into consideration.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I think we are up to one death so far.

Terrifying.

 

[Conager]

It appears that the Democrat Industrial Media Complex is going to try and put the mass hysteria genie back in the bottle now that Biden (with the benefit of vaccines) is "responsible" for more deaths than attributed to Trump with no vaccine available until days after the election.

"We're doing very, very well. Very manageable. There's no crisis. We have about 460 patients in our hospitals. That's less than 10% of our overall capacity."@NorthwellHealth CEO @MichaelJDowling on Hospital situation in New York.

Other "Don't Panic" stories-

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/11/opinion/why-hospitalizations-are-now-a-better-indicator-of-covids-impact.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/12/omicron-breakthrough-vaccine-testing/621014/

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/and-now-for-the-good-news-about-omicron.html

As has been aptly demonstrated, mass hysteria is easily fomented. Recalling it is going to be interesting.

The above competes with the contingent that wants fear-based mass mailing of ballots redux.

 

[Champakian]

Reap what ye sow!


With elections looming next year,
it's time to place bets on when the
Democrat media establishment declares
its victory over virus and time to move on...


I say they start in July when weather begins suppressing outbreaks.
In October, all mention of Omicron will be dropped from the public lexicon.


If Republicans sweep (which is looking likely [and I know this will get pushback])
then the virus will rear its ugly head in a sudden reemergence and the blame game will begin anew...

 

[bellisarius]

The media can do what they want but they won't be able to suppress the foreign media and the new panic over whatever follows Omicron because whatever follows Omicron will panic the Eurozone and panic is contagious.

 

[Champakian]

Veritas.


Vino?

 

[bellisarius]

Too early.

 

[Champakian]

The Irish answer is it's after 5 somewhere...


Too bad I have no Irish.

 

[oggbashan]

Last night's news in the UK:

We know omicron is more infectious and is spreading fast. What we don't know is whether it will cause more deaths or more severe cases in hospital - yet.

We won't know until January.

 

[Champakian]

We know...


It's been in South Africa for as long as you're now willing to wait for British results.

 

[oggbashan]

We know...


It's been in South Africa for as long as you're now willing to wait for British results.

I know. But South African data might be massaged by their government. They are desperate for tourists in their summer. Even if it isn't:

What agrees with UK data so far is that Omicron infects more younger (unvaccinated ) people than the older vaccinated ones. But South Africa does not have as many older people as the UK. The average age of their population is 14 years lower than the UK's. They have far fewer people over 65.

We don't know what will happen if older vaccinated people contract Omicron. The South African data has too few older infected people to make any calculation - yet. But when we know, the UK data could be used to predict what hapems in the US.

 

[Champakian]

I already suspect what is going to transpire.

Fear is a powerful and lucrative industry but,
fool me once...

 

[oggbashan]

I already suspect what is going to transpire.

Fear is a powerful and lucrative industry but,
fool me once...

The UK media is backpedalling fast on the threat of Omicron. But they, like the medical professionals, don't know what the reality will be.

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are introducing more measures, either today or from Boxing day. In England? No change yet but they re saying if the data gets worse, from Boxing Day onwards they might bring in more restrictions.

Apparently, it depends on how many people get a booster jab - about one million a day currently, and how Omicron affects the UK population in terms of deaths and hospitalizations. So far except in London which has the most unvaccinated people, hospital admissions are flat. But in London they are rising fast.

 

[Champakian]

They know. They're smart. They can see. It's already evident.

Be calm. Don't panic. That doesn't sell soap to the unwashed.