Republicans are quite simply un-American

[gunthernehmen]

See, the GOP has to use corrupt practices, obstruction, suppression, bullying, lying, bribery, slander and fearmongering in order to keep some political power “for the good of the country.” It’s like the 300 million guns and the 22 trillion dollar debt. Just something that America has to live with.

You just described the Democrat Party

 

[WrongVerb]

You just described the Democrat Party

Don't mistake modern progressivism with the insanely bad caricature presented by the rage wing media and conservative website fever dreams.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Don't mistake modern progressivism with the insanely bad caricature presented by the rage wing media and conservative website fever dreams.

He's not.

If he were doing that he'd be calling it out for the neo-Maoist trash that it is.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Don't mistake modern progressivism with the insanely bad caricature presented by the rage wing media and conservative website fever dreams.

There's a funny thing about a successful caricature. They take some ACCURATE aspect/s and build on that.

If the progressives (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) weren't nuts there couldn't BE a caricature to make fun of.

 

[Ziggins]

When I saw the thread title I assumed it's satire. Umm, no. The Literotica Un-American Activities Committee is now in session.

 

[YDB95]

You do know DACA was unconstitutional right.

Not until the Supreme Court says so, and so far they haven't.

You do know fast and furious was against the law, right.

That's in dispute as well. But you and I both know why a more sensible gun control approach has no chance in Congress, and it ain't because of the Democrats.

The Iran nuclear deal, what was that? It wasn't a treaty, what the fuck was it?

An effective way of dealing with a rogue state. It worked, in case you didn't notice.

Then we have a night time UPS delivery of pallets of cash done behind congresses back, to Iran no less,

Cute, but that was just unfreezing funds that already belonged to Iran. Nothing illegal about it.

 

[icanhelp1]

Not until the Supreme Court says so, and so far they haven't.

Wrong! Only congress can litigate immigration policy, the order is outside the purview of a president. They are waiting for the high court to authorize ending it NOT DETERMINING IT'S CONSTITUTIONALITY.

That's in dispute as well. But you and I both know why a more sensible gun control approach has no chance in Congress, and it ain't because of the Democrats.

Legality has nothing to do with sensibility. Gun-running is illegal period. Holder was held in contempt.

An effective way of dealing with a rogue state. It worked, in case you didn't notice.

Wrong! Not effective at all. Inspection standards were not met! Missile technology not included. Did not include congressional approval.

Cute, but that was just unfreezing funds that already belonged to Iran. Nothing illegal about it.

Totally illegal! Those funds can only be released by congressional approval. King Obama conducting himself outside his purview and above the law.

 

[phrodeau]

Here is what a Republican does during the National Anthem.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article239913588.html

 

[Leather_Lesbian]

Also, there was Ronald Reagan with his attempts to give Bob Jones University a tax-exempt status despite that university's policy of racial discrimination.

And speaking of Bob Jones University, I would like to point out the fact that Bob Jones University was founded by a Klansman. Yes, Bob Jones was a member of the Klan. He was also a Republican.

Republican sheriff E.E. Addition of Androscoggin County was also a member of the Klan.

And Republican Owen Brewster (former governor of Maine, Former member of the U.S. House of Representatives and former U.S. Senator) was also a member of the Klan.

And Klansman Shaun Winkler run for the office of Bonner County sheriff as a Republican.

And Klansman and White Supremacist David Duke praised Republican Donald Trump, saying that Trump is “the best of the lot.”?

Have you ever heard a Klansman ever praise Hillary Clinton? Or Bernie Sanders? Or Elizabeth Warren? NO!! It’s just Republican Donald Trump who gets the praise!! White Supremacists and Klansmen HATE Democrats!!.

White Supremacists and Klansmen may hate Democrats, but they love Trump!

The Ku Klux Klan has grown faster since Donald Trump’s inauguration than any time in recent memory, a Klan leader has claimed.

“I’ve been doing this for over 20 years and I haven’t seen the Klan grow at the pace it’s growing now,” Chris Barker, an Imperial Wizard of the KKK, told The Independent. “I mean, it’s even hard to keep track of the numbers you’ve got ’cause there’s so many coming in.”

Mr. Barker said that after the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville he received 50 applications to join his group in one day. The next day, he received 80.

Mr. Barker leads the Loyal White Knights of the KKK. As one of the most active Klan groups in the US, the group takes part in “activism” such as burning crosses, advocating for the murder of immigrants, and distributing leaflets claiming, among other things, “transgender is an abomination”.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...d-pace-says-leader-chris-barker-a7905811.html

 

[gunthernehmen]

Of course the same article goes on to say the membership of the nutters group is actually DECREASING, not increasing, because he's crazy.

Interestingly, since the mid 1970's, the KKK has wavered around 8000 members (being generous some of those years).

8000 crack pots in a population of 350 million people is "noise".

By comparison, the Democrat Party has a membership of around 44,000,000, although that is also decreasing.

 

[YDB95]

Of course the same article goes on to say the membership of the nutters group is actually DECREASING, not increasing, because he's crazy.

In his particular group, yes. But it also says Klan activity and the number of active chapters have been on the rise.

 

[gunthernehmen]

In his particular group, yes. But it also says Klan activity and the number of active chapters have been on the rise.

And the total numbers are around 8k. Probably including antifa.

 

[YDB95]

Probably including antifa.

Cite please.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Cite please.

They're both hate / domestic terrorist groups. It doesn't really matter what they call themselves. They're the same thing.

 

[YDB95]

They're both hate / domestic terrorist groups. It doesn't really matter what they call themselves. They're the same thing.

In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that the cited numbers for the Klan somehow include the ranks of an anti-racist organisation. Of course.

 

[gunthernehmen]

In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever that the cited numbers for the Klan somehow include the ranks of an anti-racist organisation. Of course.

Both are domestic terrorist organisations. They're the same animal, regardless what they call themselves.

Leather seemed alarmed at some imagined increase in the KKK, disputed by the very very article she quoted. I pointed out that with just 8000 members, that alarm seems a bit misplaced.

You're free to freak out about it though, if you like.

 

[YDB95]

Both are domestic terrorist organisations. They're the same animal, regardless what they call themselves.

Baloney. The Klan is all about fomenting hatred of anyone but male WASPs. Antifa hates only the haters. (It's also not really an organisation as such; it's a collection of different groups.) In any event, that article was about the Klan. There's no reason - beyond your own wishful thinking - to believe the figures cited include people whose whole purpose is opposition to the Klan and other extreme right wing groups.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Baloney. The Klan is all about fomenting hatred of anyone but male WASPs. Antifa hates only the haters. (It's also not really an organisation as such; it's a collection of different groups.) In any event, that article was about the Klan. There's no reason - beyond your own wishful thinking - to believe the figures cited include people whose whole purpose is opposition to the Klan and other extreme right wing groups.

My number came from the Southern Poverty Law Center. They would only be inclined to inflate the number, not minimise it.

As for your fantasy that antifa is a group of peaceful, well intended pacifists, simply: bullshit.

They employ the same strategies and tactics as the KKK, ISIS and other terrorist organisations.

 

[YDB95]

My number came from the Southern Poverty Law Center. They would only be inclined to inflate the number, not minimise it.

Your number? You mean the one from the article? I'm quite sure the SPLC can tell the Klan apart from Antifa.

As for your fantasy that antifa is a group of peaceful, well intended pacifists, simply: bullshit.

That I ever said such a thing is YOUR fantasy, my friend. Feel free to show me where I said it.

They employ the same strategies and tactics as the KKK, ISIS and other terrorist organisations.

I'm sure you read that on whatever right wing rag you get your news from, but...yeah, no. They're not pacifists, but they're not a hate group either. Again, it's not a world of absolutes.

 

[gunthernehmen]

they're not a hate group

If it looks like a skunk, sounds like a skunk and sprays stinky shit over everything, then it's probably a skunk.

You don't see them as a hate group because, clearly, you share the same views as they do.

 

[gunthernehmen]

To expand on those thoughts, if it

Looks like a skunk:

https://i2.wp.com/notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Antifa_3.png​

Acts like a skunk:

a "youth" wing of antifa, commandeered part of the march. Their black uniforms overshadowed the brighter signs carried by the young children. Earlier chants about the climate were now replaced with slurs against police.

Jepson was found carrying a cache of weapons, which included a polymer dagger, spiked brass knuckles, a spring-loaded knife, pepper spray and other weapons. The hammer he had was wrapped with a plastic bag and tape—tricks used by criminals to remove one's fingerprints and a victim's DNA.​

And sprays like a skunk:

a masked protester threw water while another pepper sprayed a man.​

It's a skunk:

Terrorism is the use of fear and acts of violence in order to intimidate societies, governments or against an ideology. ... Common definitions of terrorism refer to violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror). They may be done for a religious, political, or ideological goal, and uses illegal violence.​

https://www.newsweek.com/violence-p...uts-law-abiding-citizens-risk-opinion-1461124

The article talks about an antifa group terrorizing a bunch of school kids that were worried about the climate.

Oh, but they aren't terrorists! ROFL

 

[YDB95]

You don't see them as a hate group because, clearly, you share the same views as they do.

Why yes, I do hate fascists and bigots. Why don't you?

 

[gunthernehmen]

Why yes, I do hate fascists and bigots. Why don't you?

Why would I hate you? I'm enjoying this banter.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why yes, I do hate fascists and bigots. Why don't you?

Wildly bigoted against anyone more liberal or to the right of Xi Jinping.....considers them fascists.

 

[YDB95]

So now anti-fascist = fascist. Your logic is unimpeachable as always.