How would this be received in Loving Wives?

[JuanSeiszFitzHall]

I’m working on a story about a married couple, each person around 70 years old. They’re still in love, and neither has ever strayed. He was quite the stallion in his youth, and while her sex drive wasn’t as high as his originally, she caught up through ‘post-menopausal zest,’ which some women experience (and usually don’t advertise to their friends, who go through the more common post-menopausal effects of ‘personal dryness’ and reduced libido). After about 20 years of wild (and vanilla) sex in their empty nest, the husband starts to feel the effects of his age, and while he thinks he could have accepted an end to full genital sex, he resists it because his wife is still having so much fun.

I have a few directions I’m considering (all of them branching from the fact that he’s medicated against hypertension, and she insists that she prefers a live soulmate to a satyr at death’s door, so he has to stay on his meds and not resort to boner pills). One approach is for the wife to find ways to spice things up, still with just the two of them alone. She was never a prude, with her values informed by women’s liberation and sexual ‘freedom’ in the 1970s, but in the early years of the marriage they decided that various things they tried didn’t work for one, the other, or both, so they settled in to what they both liked, genital-genital with oral foreplay. Now she does research and expands their repertoire, and the husband becomes erectilely functional enough for them to get their jollies (genital-genital, rather than only oral to orgasm)--giving her space to claim later (truthfully or otherwise) that her libido has started to ramp down.

This might go in Mature, which from what I’ve seen can include stories with all participants Of A Certain Age, and not just May-December. Romance is also a possible fit, because the wife’s motivation is more love than desire. But it seems to me that this would be within the literal definition of Loving Wives. Maybe the readers there who intensely dislike a wife’s adultery going unpunished (is that a sufficiently non-judgmental description?) might approve of a sexually active wife devoting herself to helping her husband catch up.

Anyway, I welcome any guidance from those of you who have often taken the risk of posting in LW.

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[ElectricBlue]

Romance or Mature.

The "literal definition" of Loving Wives has no meaning on Lit, not any more.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

But it seems to me that this would be within the literal definition of Loving Wives. Maybe the readers there who intensely dislike a wife’s adultery going unpunished (is that a sufficiently non-judgmental description?) might approve of a sexually active wife devoting herself to helping her husband catch up.

Anyway, I welcome any guidance from those of you who have often taken the risk of posting in LW.

I haven't posted in Loving Wives, but from everything I've heard, and the descriptions of all the stories, what EB wrote is correct. "Loving Wives" readers want adulterous women. The debate is only about whether the women should be punished (and how harshly), or whether it's ok for the husbands to enjoy it.

IMO, I'd go with Mature, since most of the plot hinges on your couple's age. That's another category I haven't delved in much, but maybe the readers would like a romantic story about a genuinely older couple, rather than May/December or even June/October romances...

 

[NotWise]

The most highly-rated story I've read in LW was about a wife who loved her husband. It breaks the common practice, but it might be interesting to put it there. You could be severely punished. You could be rewarded.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

The most highly-rated story I've read in LW was about a wife who loved her husband. It breaks the common practice, but it might be interesting to put it there. You could be severely punished. You could be rewarded.

Interesting! I always assumed the category title had always been meant ironically.

 

[ElectricBlue]

IMO, I'd go with Mature, since most of the plot hinges on your couple's age. That's another category I haven't delved in much, but maybe the readers would like a romantic story about a genuinely older couple, rather than May/December or even June/October romances...

I agree. Mature readers appear to be intelligent, appreciative of any age smut, and any age gap smut. It's very close to Romance in many respects, but I think you can go a bit grittier, less fluffy. Think panthers, not kittens; seduction, not sunsets. It works for me - my biggest collection of comments is from those guys and gals.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There are about a dozen factions in Loving Wives, but it really breaks down to three.

One. The husband and wife are in love and only have sex with each other. This group is called the Moral Majority.

Two. The husband knows his wife "cheats" on him and lets her have her fun, while either watching and participating or getting the details from her after she comes home. He may or may not like sloppy seconds. This group is called the Hotwife or Stag and Vixen group.

Three. The husband has no idea until he catches her cheating. This group is called Burn the Bitch.

One always leaves 1-bombs on two and thee. Three always leaves one bombs on Two. And Two leaves 1-bombs on none or just three.

The nastiest comment come from the Moral Majority and the BTB crowd on Twos stories.

Yeah, to answer your question, Mature or Romance for sure. Loving Wives is a battleground.

 

[Inkhorn]

There are about a dozen factions in Loving Wives, but it really breaks down to three.

One. The husband and wife are in love and only have sex with each other. This group is called the Moral Majority.

Two. The husband knows his wife "cheats" on him and lets her have her fun, while either watching and participating or getting the details from her after she comes home. He may or may not like sloppy seconds. This group is called the Hotwife or Stag and Vixen group.

Three. The husband has no idea until he catches her cheating. This group is called Burn the Bitch.

One always leaves 1-bombs on two and thee. Three always leaves one bombs on Two. And Two leaves 1-bombs on none or just three.

The nastiest comment come from the Moral Majority and the BTB crowd on Twos stories.

Yeah, to answer your question, Mature or Romance for sure. Loving Wives is a battleground.

Having just had a LW story published and having read the comments, this sounds about right. But I knew I wasn’t going to please everyone going into it, and I’m grateful for the constructive criticism and for the compliments. Those who don’t like it? Meh. Whatcha gonna do?

I’m working on a story about a married couple, each person around 70 years old. They’re still in love, and neither has ever strayed. He was quite the stallion in his youth, and while her sex drive wasn’t as high as his originally, she caught up through ‘post-menopausal zest,’ which some women experience (and usually don’t advertise to their friends, who go through the more common post-menopausal effects of ‘personal dryness’ and reduced libido). After about 20 years of wild (and vanilla) sex in their empty nest, the husband starts to feel the effects of his age, and while he thinks he could have accepted an end to full genital sex, he resists it because his wife is still having so much fun...

If you want an audience that will truly appreciate the story, go Mature or Romance. If you want a large audience with lots of comments and people rating it, do Loving Wives; just be prepared for nastiness.

 

[LuciousLadyMary]

Hubby and I are in our 60's. Just this year we've been putting some of our "date stories" here on Lit.

Hubby published first putting his 3 part 'first HW date' in LW.
I in turn put 2 separate date tales in Mature.

Same couple and basically the same type stories. Mine stay around 4.2-4.4, his in the 3.25 area.

I did get some feedback telling me I could raunch it up some...lol.

 

[JuanSeiszFitzHall]

Thanks to all. Since I'm the OP, I can tell you that I think I've received helpful input, and nobody else has to add to this thread for my sake. But if the discussion continues, I'll keep watching.

 

[Hypoxia]

Look at the LW Hall of Fame and contest winners lists; see many Red-H entries, even from the last couple years. I've not scanned those stories for content but authors obviously still do SOMETHING right there.

There are about a dozen factions in Loving Wives, but it really breaks down to three.

1. Nobody cheats, maybe with guiltless swaps. But where's the drama?
2. Wittol / willing wimp / cuck-fetish fun. Should be a Fetish sub-category.
3. Cheats! Burn the Bitch / Bastard / Both. Retribution goes a long way.

Burning nobody (#1) and burning both (#3.3) gather the best scores and softest comments in my limited LW experience. YMMV. I recall successful LW tales where the crippled or dying hubby hands-off his still-ripe wifey to the helpful neighbor guy -- but no cheating.

Cheating and cucking are not mandatory in LW except to provoke trolls.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

I agree. Mature readers appear to be intelligent, appreciative of any age smut, and any age gap smut. It's very close to Romance in many respects, but I think you can go a bit grittier, less fluffy. Think panthers, not kittens; seduction, not sunsets. It works for me - my biggest collection of comments is from those guys and gals.

Mature is an underappreciated category.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Mature is an underappreciated category.

Agree. It's a nice category to write in - folk like the age gap stories for all the obvious reasons, the twilight stories are either borderline romance or full of spice because the players know what they're doing, and women can indulge their daddy thing without going too far. Also, there seem to be far fewer bimbos (they're all waiting for their eighteenth birthday with dad, down the I&T corridor). It certainly beats Group as a category, hands down, and more responsive than Erotic Couplings (although I've done okay there, too).

 

[Jay142]

LW Never Again

I posted one story in LW and vowed never to post in there again. Some of the commentators are nuts and out and out viscous.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

I posted one story in LW and vowed never to post in there again. Some of the commentators are nuts and out and out viscous.

Indeed. Considering that far more experienced LIT writers avoid it like the plague, I see no reason to jump into that tarpit.

 

[qhml1]

Into the breach

Most all my stories are in LW. And yes, I've been ravaged for my stories by many, especially the notorious 'Annies'. Overall, most responses have been good. Some haven't, but the commentator explained why he/she didn't like it, sometimes in minute detail. And yes, lately the comments are getting more and more negative and rambling but it's all part of the game. In my 64 years, I've learned you either run with the big dogs or you lay on the porch and growl.

So jump in there, put one of your stories on LW. What's the worst that can happen, a bunch of mouth breathers get their feelings hurt and take it out on you?Good or bad, you'll know someone was reading.

Q

 

[Hypoxia]

So jump in there, put one of your stories on LW. What's the worst that can happen, a bunch of mouth breathers get their feelings hurt and take it out on you?Good or bad, you'll know someone was reading.

The paranoid (me too) can post to LW under an .alt to attract those slings and arrows. Or in any category where one wishes to outrage the locals. As I should have with Big Banana. Oy.

 

[Inkhorn]

I think the ultimate question is "Who are you writing for?"

If you're writing more for yourself, just for the pleasure of writing and getting your story out there for like-minded folk to read, then it really doesn't matter where you put it. Just have fun with it. If you think it's LW, put it in LW and let the dice fall where they may!

If you are writing more for others and looking for their approval, perhaps with the hope of "going pro" and publishing, that's when you have to be careful and decide who your target audience really is.

Either way? Not really that important. We're anonymous writers being judged by anonymous readers.

(On a side note, I hate that there's an option for posting comments on a story anonymously. Should be all anon or all usernames. But I'm silly that way.)

 

[ElectricBlue]

(On a side note, I hate that there's an option for posting comments on a story anonymously. Should be all anon or all usernames. But I'm silly that way.)

It's one of the controls the site gives Authors. You can turn anon comments off if you want to, just as you can turn all comments off. It can be done story by story, at any time. It's a useful tool, for those being trolled.

 

[Inkhorn]

It's one of the controls the site gives Authors. You can turn anon comments off if you want to, just as you can turn all comments off. It can be done story by story, at any time. It's a useful tool, for those being trolled.

I’ll remember this for my next story!

 

[ElectricBlue]

I’ll remember this for my next story!

My recommendation is to accept all comments, and use your Delete capability for house-keeping. Some of the best comments you will ever get will be anon. I'd never turn it off. You can just delete the garbage, using whatever criteria you want. That's the other good control the site gives Authors.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think the ultimate question is "Who are you writing for?"

If you're writing more for yourself, just for the pleasure of writing and getting your story out there for like-minded folk to read, then it really doesn't matter where you put it. Just have fun with it. If you think it's LW, put it in LW and let the dice fall where they may!

If you are writing more for others and looking for their approval, perhaps with the hope of "going pro" and publishing, that's when you have to be careful and decide who your target audience really is.

Either way? Not really that important. We're anonymous writers being judged by anonymous readers.

(On a side note, I hate that there's an option for posting comments on a story anonymously. Should be all anon or all usernames. But I'm silly that way.)

I disagree, and I'll explain why.

I think when it comes to writing your story, you should follow your own muse. Write it the way you want to write it. Don't write it the way you think others want it to be. Write to meet your own artistic standard, whatever it is. That's what I try to do.

But once my story is done, my goal is to get it in front of as many readers who will like it as possible. People can do whatever they want, but I don't understand why you would want to do something different. I don't understand people who want a smaller audience because their story will get a higher score. I'd rather have a lower score knowing that I have 10,000 appreciative readers than a higher score knowing I have 5,000. It makes no sense to me to think otherwise.

So my approach, once the story is done, is to be 100% practical and to use the tools available at this site to get my story in front of as many eyeballs as possible. That means I think carefully about category, and story title, and tagline, and the tags I use.

I totally disagree about anonymous comments. Eliminating anonymous comments would cut total comments in half, or worse. It would dramatically decrease the amount of reader feedback. That's a horrible idea. We're all adults, and if we don't like certain comments we can delete them. It makes no sense to force everyone to adopt a policy of having no anonymous comments just so the sensitive among us aren't offended. Buck up, and use the delete function.

I guarantee you, I've had comments every bit as nasty as anything anyone's received. I just laughed.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I guarantee you, I've had comments every bit as nasty as anything anyone's received. I just laughed.

Mister Doom puffed up his penguin feathers and stood proud. "Yeah, fuckers, it takes more than a few feeble insults to knock me from my rock. Mwuaahahaha, I laugh in your face!"

Suzie just shook her head. "Mom, he's never going to get that story finished, is he?"

"Not if he keeps hanging around the Hangout, no. I keep nagging him, every time I take up a nice cup of tea, but he gets so distracted."

"Sheesh, Mom. That's because you've got my bikini bottoms on."

Simon looked up. Was Spongebob Squarepants on next?

 

[SimonDoom]

Mister Doom puffed up his penguin feathers and stood proud. "Yeah, fuckers, it takes more than a few feeble insults to knock me from my rock. Mwuaahahaha, I laugh in your face!"

Suzie just shook her head. "Mom, he's never going to get that story finished, is he?"

"Not if he keeps hanging around the Hangout, no. I keep nagging him, every time I take up a nice cup of tea, but he gets so distracted."

"Sheesh, Mom. That's because you've got my bikini bottoms on."

Simon looked up. Was Spongebob Squarepants on next?

Oy. Somebody's OD'ed on vegamite lately.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I totally disagree about anonymous comments. Eliminating anonymous comments would cut total comments in half, or worse. It would dramatically decrease the amount of reader feedback.

Some of the loveliest feedback I've ever had has been from anons. Not everybody feels safe setting up an account on an erotica site.