Sexless Marriages

[ccs29745]

Thank you, I’ve had drama to deal with but it’s over for good

Good, too much stuff going on to have room for lots of drama in anyone's life.

 

[ccs29745]

Same here except I’m 26 and a female. I have a crazy sex drive. My husband is a little older but doesn’t like to have sex. We have sex a few times a year. Toys keep me sane.

43 and a decent sex drive. It's not making a retaliation comment I find hard not to do sometimes so as to not distance ourselves from each other.

 

[WizardSoDirty]

I don’t believe such relationships with NSA or no attachments exist - no matter what people say. I think to feel that way the person would have to be a psychopath.

I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship where I didn’t have an emotional and mental connection with the other person and certainly don’t think I could have a sexual relationship without that connection.

Exactamundo!

 

[WizardSoDirty]

FWB does sound better, but still basically a NSA style. Got co-worker who wants new/FWB type relationship and has no problem with . I , on the other hand do. Damn thing called a conscience sometimes gets in the way.

I'll compliment a female, but not mean to sleep with her. Some say they're married instead of thank you, thinking I am hitting on them. I just give random compliments.

Welcome to the "damned if you do and damned if you don't universe"

I know where your mind is going but resist the temptation to say something mean, LOL

 

[DDBustyBrit]

I don’t believe such relationships with NSA or no attachments exist - no matter what people say. I think to feel that way the person would have to be a psychopath.

I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship where I didn’t have an emotional and mental connection with the other person and certainly don’t think I could have a sexual relationship without that connection.

I am 1000% with you on this, it’s why I never do casual Lit hookups, I find no pleasure in them at all. I’m also female & so just not like a guy in this respect.

What’s interesting to me is many assume because I’m a big old flirt, I’m as us Brits say “shagging everything in sight”! Even those who should know me better make that assumption wrongly. Basically the rule with me is, no connection means no nookie (yet another obscure British term for sex)!

 

[sexywriterfla]

I am 1000% with you on this, it’s why I never do casual Lit hookups, I find no pleasure in them at all. I have to have a connection or it’s not happening!

I completely agree with you.

 

[WizardSoDirty]

I~~~
I have been writing my fantasies, stories and desires with the hopes that they may be fulfilled in the future. I have no idea if I am setting myself up for failure by creating expectations, but I am enjoying what I see in my mind and thinking it may happen.

the old saw about not getting any lending itself to better erotic writing may have some validity.

The idea that a man does not have a sexual desire and lust for his wife makes me shake my head. He has no idea what a true gift he has, and he is letting it pull away.

Actually many do know exactly what they have and the inability to enjoy that just adds to the frustration.

Some reading on depression might be beneficial.

I see a lot of writing here that tells me that people overlook that a lot.

On the one hand you have someone that doesn't understand how they've gotten to the point of existing as if they were an inanimate object and are just trying to make it through the day.
On the other a person that can't understand or feel what to "rock person" is going through and can't understand that much of what they do by blaming or even mentioning things adds to it, which does cause a reaction, just not the one they wanted. So sometimes they can do what might actually be helpful, that is letting it ride without pressuring. However the cycle may be set, the (more or perhaps "initially" depressed one can either feel guilt or suspicion (why aren't they nagging anymore is it an affair or a divorce)

It can be an endless feedback loop.

None of it's easy but I can tell you from experience that an extremely uber-sexual person can have it vanish almost overnight and if they do know what happened if it something they can't escape like money or work it just makes it worse and not only is frustration and guilt at play you can wonder if the unfortunate circumstance is going to turn your whole life upside down.
Sometimes a person needs to sit and be a vegetable to reexamine the totality of their existence. The best thing in that case if you can stand it is to step back and if possible tell them early on "I see what's going on and I'm going to give you whatever space you need for as long as it takes" which oddly enough unless you think about it will still distract them and cause upset and guilt. If it didn't you'd be dealing with someone that simply didn't feel anything which if that allowed them to actually collect their thoughts might be hugely beneficial. The reality is, much like you can't really have FWB with no emotional attachment at all, (you just have to keep it withing bounds) It's very hard for someone experiencing something like this to not have guilt and even hopelessness.... if they loved thei SO to begin with and worked to build a life and then to be smacked down preventing it is almost as if they suddenly came down with something fatal. But your spouse doesn't expect you to just "snap out" of cancer like they do a depression and even if they'r the most understanding person in the world the depressed one can be just as unforgiving of themselves and often just as we see our own flaws more than others see them we're harder on ourselves.

I said it, most of you already know it whether you have verbalized it or not, and yet just that is likely to add to your own frustration/resentment/"why me" and the rest of the swirling emotions involved.
The two things I might can offer, which isn't much, is that It happens sometimes a person if it's an external influence can see a way out of the trap they're in and dig their way out.

Anther thing is it's not unusual for me to stumble, happen across or encounter some seemingly random thing a person normally would just think to themself (ah, a red bird" or some mundaneboring bit of nothingness but it might cause me to understand some thing that I'd filed away years, decades before.... Damn, that's how the thing works or, wow, I can almost feel the history of how they figured that out.

I can't say that it's led to a solution to a problem I was having at the moment although it probably has a couple of times but nothing come to mind.... bnut the only reason is probably a random non-event as it's just chance if it helps or just another "aha" moment, which I just feel like some unfinished business has been put away that I nevr really expected to happen or didn't even really think about.

So you never know.
tis may seem like a bunch of rambling bullshit but sometimes that's all you have to keep from.........


And sometimes it gets you to the next day.

 

[sn4ke11]

*raises hand in shame*

Yep sexless marriage, i mean there is more to life but still, i feel like i have so much pent up sexually energy and no way to express it, ive done the erotic writing thing, decent at that, think i need to step up to an online playmate now, how do i go about getting one of those, any input?

 

[WizardSoDirty]

Ok I’m 53 and have been through menopause in the last 2 yrs and don’t believe everything you read. There may be hope for you, I have never been hornier and am truly at my sexuality peak in life.

I never had a symptom though, just sailed right through. I know this is not usually the case, but I have a couple of friends who after they were done found their drive came back.

I also have a couple of friends who had hormone implants and that helped too. I hope you resolve it but don’t give up hope

Sadly I have the opposite issue here, it’s almost laughable!

Actually it's complicated evidently ones outlook of sex in general as well as aging and mitigated by being in good physical shape, diet, nutrition and all that but It's more "normal" for women to get revved up with age. As your estrogens fall off a bit your androgens are more effective and y'all have only a fraction of what men have yet that's all you need. When i was using androgel I had the individual foil envelopes and used it cutaneously, squeezing every bit out of the pack. then I could open up one side with scissors and put that little bit on my wife or almost just threaten her with it and 5 minute later she's ready to fuck a telephone pole. She's always been horny anyway, that's how we ended up or a big part of it, but her experience with menopause has been much like yours.
I expect she carries more bodyfat than you which would or should have the effect of negating that at least some.... not with her. If i'm not careful it could be my end for sure. I've seen her wear out several 40 somethings a few times.
You, I think being thinner should have more T or more free T although the HPA axis will try to regulate it down in the absence of fat aromamatizing T into estrogens and related hormones.

a lot of women eat salad and some rabbit foods are T boosters, notably cruciferous veg, eaten raw or lightly steamed is notable for elevating T, as is exercise and even having a pleasant experience or thoughts.

I don't use androgel anymore as it drove my PSA up and after using it a few years it should have been that my free T levels would be out of range, low but two years after that, which was actually about two years ago, my PSA and my T levels were normal. Actually My T had recovered before that.

But th whole reason I went on androgel to begin with was my sex drive and every other drive dropped to nothing. Maybe fighting with my HOA helped keep it up some but for a long time that was not very satisfying.

The main thing that keeps me going in those situations is pure hard-headedness and the ability to stay pissed off for unlimited amounts of time.

It's more "normal" for men's dries to fall off than it is for women but it doesn't have to be that way for men either. Smashing things, believe it or not, or doing something constructive elevates T
Reallyu almost anything you might view as positive is beneficial, being in good physical condition is a great help as it also mitigates heat and cold and injuries, all that.

I'm just making a swag at your BMI based on your avatar , I guess you chaned that a couple of days ago and you referencing kickboxing, which is pretty damned aerobic,so ......respect, and actually envy. .......I need to get my knees lubed again and just haven't done it but I'm holding out for stem cells on my hip.

That stuff in your knees is supposed to only be good for about 6 months and it's lasts over two years for me. I need to make time for it. What's kicking my ass more than anything right now is 100 degree heat or heat/humidity

I used to love the Summer....

 

[WizardSoDirty]

So lets say there's a person in our circle of friends (a friend of a friend) who I know is safe and he knows I'm safe (both of us married). A random encounter leads to a bj in a secluded room. I have no feelings for him, he has none for me.

That makes me a psychopath?

No, it just makes you guilty of mischaracterization., and of course, being horny.

I think there's a specified minimum number of "friend ofs" before you get to officially recognized psychopath minimums.
The formula is the number of clicks it takes to flag an ad on CL divided by pi plus the number of licks to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop, then that's stored via an encryption algorithm using a salted hash, the salt being supplied by a random number generator.

 

[ccs29745]

Actually it's complicated evidently ones outlook of sex in general as well as aging and mitigated by being in good physical shape, diet, nutrition and all that but It's more "normal" for women to get revved up with age. As your estrogens fall off a bit your androgens are more effective and y'all have only a fraction of what men have yet that's all you need. When i was using androgel I had the individual foil envelopes and used it cutaneously, squeezing every bit out of the pack. then I could open up one side with scissors and put that little bit on my wife or almost just threaten her with it and 5 minute later she's ready to fuck a telephone pole. She's always been horny anyway, that's how we ended up or a big part of it, but her experience with menopause has been much like yours.
I expect she carries more bodyfat than you which would or should have the effect of negating that at least some.... not with her. If i'm not careful it could be my end for sure. I've seen her wear out several 40 somethings a few times.
You, I think being thinner should have more T or more free T although the HPA axis will try to regulate it down in the absence of fat aromamatizing T into estrogens and related hormones.

a lot of women eat salad and some rabbit foods are T boosters, notably cruciferous veg, eaten raw or lightly steamed is notable for elevating T, as is exercise and even having a pleasant experience or thoughts.

I don't use androgel anymore as it drove my PSA up and after using it a few years it should have been that my free T levels would be out of range, low but two years after that, which was actually about two years ago, my PSA and my T levels were normal. Actually My T had recovered before that.

But th whole reason I went on androgel to begin with was my sex drive and every other drive dropped to nothing. Maybe fighting with my HOA helped keep it up some but for a long time that was not very satisfying.

The main thing that keeps me going in those situations is pure hard-headedness and the ability to stay pissed off for unlimited amounts of time.

It's more "normal" for men's dries to fall off than it is for women but it doesn't have to be that way for men either. Smashing things, believe it or not, or doing something constructive elevates T
Reallyu almost anything you might view as positive is beneficial, being in good physical condition is a great help as it also mitigates heat and cold and injuries, all that.

I'm just making a swag at your BMI based on your avatar , I guess you chaned that a couple of days ago and you referencing kickboxing, which is pretty damned aerobic,so ......respect, and actually envy. .......I need to get my knees lubed again and just haven't done it but I'm holding out for stem cells on my hip.

That stuff in your knees is supposed to only be good for about 6 months and it's lasts over two years for me. I need to make time for it. What's kicking my ass more than anything right now is 100 degree heat or heat/humidity

I used to love the Summer....

HOA's should not be so expensive or able to tell you how to personalize your house.

The heat not so bad, but humidity is killer around here.

 

[ccs29745]

Talking about copping an attitude..

Hard not to give attitude sometimes

 

[ccs29745]

I was 25 when this all started :/

Got a long road ahead, but stay strong. Perhaps he'll come around soon. I hope everyday mine does.

 

[TXTongueTwister]

Sex less marriages

This thread makes me glad I got a divorce and started having WAY more sex. I feel for all of you stuck in that rut.

 

[ccs29745]

This thread makes me glad I got a divorce and started having WAY more sex. I feel for all of you stuck in that rut.

What rut, got my porn to read

 

[TXTongueTwister]

What rut, got my porn to read

I'm all for that...LOL

 

[Spiritedlady]

Same here except I’m 26 and a female. I have a crazy sex drive. My husband is a little older but doesn’t like to have sex. We have sex a few times a year. Toys keep me sane.

God you’re so young. I fear there’s a time coming when toys are just not going to cut it. Can you do this for another 50 years?

 

[DDBustyBrit]

God you’re so young. I fear there’s a time coming when toys are just not going to cut it. Can you do this for another 50 years?

Totally agree with SL, hate to say this but get out!

I am 53 and rapidly coming to the conclusion I can’t live like this for the next 25 and won’t, so I can’t imagine 50.

And one other comment, if you’re like this now and unsure please don’t go and get pregnant thinking that will fix it, because it will only make it less likely having kids around.

Sending a hug your way

 

[ccs29745]

Totally agree with SL, hate to say this but get out!

I am 53 and rapidly coming to the conclusion I can’t live like this for the next 25 and won’t, so I can’t imagine 50.

And one other comment, if you’re like this now and unsure please don’t go and get pregnant thinking that will fix it, because it will only make it less likely having kids around.

Sending a hug your way


knew a girl in school that did the pregnancy thing to keep her boyfriend. Both guys ended up leaving her. She had a tough go at it, but did raise a wonderful daughter.

 

[luckylibdo]

I can totally relate

It extremely difficult being in a marriage where the sex drives don’t match, the fantasies are not shared, the kink levels are different- if it weren’t for porn, erotica, and masturbation I’d go insane! Do any of you sext with naughty friends or actually cheat to fulfill your sexual needs?

I’ve been in a sexless marriage for many years and looking for suggestions on how to cope with it - leaving is not really an option.

 

[Polranny]

It extremely difficult being in a marriage where the sex drives don’t match, the fantasies are not shared, the kink levels are different- if it weren’t for porn, erotica, and masturbation I’d go insane! Do any of you sext with naughty friends or actually cheat to fulfill your sexual needs?

I’ve been in a sexless marriage for many years and looking for suggestions on how to cope with it - leaving is not really an option.

If you've been in a sexless marriage for many years surely you are coping with it!

 

[DDBustyBrit]

Actually it's complicated evidently ones outlook of sex in general as well as aging and mitigated by being in good physical shape, diet, nutrition and all that but It's more "normal" for women to get revved up with age. As your estrogens fall off a bit your androgens are more effective and y'all have only a fraction of what men have yet that's all you need. When i was using androgel I had the individual foil envelopes and used it cutaneously, squeezing every bit out of the pack. then I could open up one side with scissors and put that little bit on my wife or almost just threaten her with it and 5 minute later she's ready to fuck a telephone pole. She's always been horny anyway, that's how we ended up or a big part of it, but her experience with menopause has been much like yours.
I expect she carries more bodyfat than you which would or should have the effect of negating that at least some.... not with her. If i'm not careful it could be my end for sure. I've seen her wear out several 40 somethings a few times.
You, I think being thinner should have more T or more free T although the HPA axis will try to regulate it down in the absence of fat aromamatizing T into estrogens and related hormones.

a lot of women eat salad and some rabbit foods are T boosters, notably cruciferous veg, eaten raw or lightly steamed is notable for elevating T, as is exercise and even having a pleasant experience or thoughts.

I don't use androgel anymore as it drove my PSA up and after using it a few years it should have been that my free T levels would be out of range, low but two years after that, which was actually about two years ago, my PSA and my T levels were normal. Actually My T had recovered before that.

But th whole reason I went on androgel to begin with was my sex drive and every other drive dropped to nothing. Maybe fighting with my HOA helped keep it up some but for a long time that was not very satisfying.

The main thing that keeps me going in those situations is pure hard-headedness and the ability to stay pissed off for unlimited amounts of time.

It's more "normal" for men's dries to fall off than it is for women but it doesn't have to be that way for men either. Smashing things, believe it or not, or doing something constructive elevates T
Reallyu almost anything you might view as positive is beneficial, being in good physical condition is a great help as it also mitigates heat and cold and injuries, all that.

I'm just making a swag at your BMI based on your avatar , I guess you chaned that a couple of days ago and you referencing kickboxing, which is pretty damned aerobic,so ......respect, and actually envy. .......I need to get my knees lubed again and just haven't done it but I'm holding out for stem cells on my hip.

That stuff in your knees is supposed to only be good for about 6 months and it's lasts over two years for me. I need to make time for it. What's kicking my ass more than anything right now is 100 degree heat or heat/humidity

I used to love the Summer....

Very interesting response thank you, I had never heard of Androgel, but I’m guessing I’d be trying to shag everything on sight so I think not!

My T levels are normal as I have no thyroid after having to have radiation on it 12 yrs ago . So I am closely monitored for all my blood levels every 6 months and they stay in range.

But diet I could not be more different to most women, I exist mainly on protein and low carb, not choice but necessary for various reason. I also take a bunch of vitamins daily and I’m sure all this helps me.

BMI is 21-22 and does not fluctuate, I am tall and slim with an athletic shape. As for fitness, kickboxing 4-5 times a week, weights the same and cardio in addition of at least 30 mins most days. Resting HR is 50-54 so marathon runner level and BP 108/65 ish most of the time. I keep my stress levels low, drink in moderation and consume 100fl oz water a day.

So I am sure being so fit and healthy all has contributed to my sailing through menopause. I’m also sure it’s why my sex drive is through the roof.

I believe nutrition plays a key role in how we age as well and I’m doing okay for 53!

Thanks for the interesting info

 

[WizardSoDirty]

HOA's should not be so expensive or able to tell you how to personalize your house.

The heat not so bad, but humidity is killer around here.

The HOA paradox is particularly ironic in Texas as it's against or at least some of the enforcement mechanisms are against the Texas State Constitution and if that's not enough considering who's running the State in recent years you'd think someone would notice that not only is it a restriction on freedom but also you're paying a defacto tax to have what often amounts to a malevolent dictatorship to arbitrarily institute standards that are not only subjective and thus, usually misinterpreted but also nearly everything an HOA does in the absence of a common ajucnt to be maintained such as a pool or golf course, ect is something you're already paying for if you are within a municipality, which nearly all of them are although there are exceptions. So you're paying for those twice and you have less control and influence (depending on how skillfully you can apply "fear of the unknown" and related psychological concepts and how aggressive your attorney might be) than you do a municipality. One of the things that make HOAs unconstitutional is they're enjoying unwarranted protections as if they are a "real" government, if you lose a lawsuit you are likely to also have to cover their legal expenses The real root of lawyers being unpopular IMO) however if you win, you are prevented from recovering your legal expenses in most cases although it's possible if the planets are properly aligned and they've committed a gross overstep, depending.

I was able to scare the living daylights out of the boardmembers of ours when we were managing that internally but all that did was cause them to freak and a couple of years later turn management over to a management company, with staff that were.... I looked up the technical term to be sure ..."fucking stupid" and either had no legal advice or ignored it. They would do things that were obviously foolhardy and very inadvisable. I was managing to get by but it was a constant PITA. We moved for other reasons however and although Wifey misses that house, there's a lot of truth in "they don't build stuff like they used to" but we made a unbelievable profit on the place. The only thing I miss is being able to hook up the boat and be at the lake in less than 10 minutes. That was actually a source of inputed income as although I'd like to be a better bass fisherman (I only catch the dumb ones, and I'm serious about that) I'm good enough at catfish to actually come out way ahead on expenses. And there's nothing like fresh catfish.
What I don't miss is the thieves, steal anything at night, getting in peoples' cars but even steal stuff out of your garage in daylight if you weren't right there.

Where we are now we don't have those worries. I have natural fortifications, one of which is a moat between the house and the road, automated systems (big fucking spiders webs everywhere at night, non venomous but still... , and copperheads, water moccasins, the neighbor's bull on one side and the neighbors dogs acting as early warning on the other, a spooky driveway approach, all kinds of wildlife in the back notably large bobcats, coyotes, and a heard of feral hogs at least 40or50 strong, some up to around 1000 lbs) and no outside lights to speak of as I haven't wired any yet.

I'm completely serious when I say we almost never lock the doors even usually if taking a weekend trip. My neighbor on the one side is another benefit. He's actually a very nice guy and has been on the board of his church but he's got nearly as big an arsenal as I have and actually does pay attention to what goes on. The other side is older folks but the bull can be unreasonable and really even the cows when they have calves. I welcome members of the anti gun crowd to spend a couple of weeks with me. I have places out in the back 40 that are scary during high noon in the summer because it seems like you're in the middle of nowhere and there's real danger Feral hogs can not only kill you but they 'll eat you too and there isn't anything left to speak of, teeth maybe... pooped out over acreage with lots of trees it's pretty hard to find those. About three months ago Wifey went out back with me to retrieve the tractor which turned into a bigger job than I expected and we ended up way out there at around 1 in the morning, no moon and we heard a bobcat or two start howling not very far from where were were. She's crying and I'm telling her "What are you scared of, you've got a .357 magnum strapped on? I get it though as she's not used to shooting at moving wildlife but I taught her to shoot years ago and she actually very good. I think the cats were after each other but could see them even with those powerful flashlights, Just aimed a .45 in that direction and fired 3 rounds which like that is loud as hell. Bobcats go quiet. But out there day and especially night I'd rather not be out there without a weapon.

And every tree it seems (not too much exaggeration) has thorns Mesquites are at least good for cooking but we have locust that have thorns growing off the thorns all the way up and down the trunk.
Coyotes here are actually less dangerous than in Dallas and 'burbs. People think they're warm and fuzzy and that they're harmless. Out here maybe so but they've attacked grown men on jogging trails and grabbed people's pets off of the leash near and in Dallas and have killed people in other places.

The only thing that actually worries me here is killer bees, and we do have them. Whn you see a wild hive you don't know what they are unless they get after you and then your only hope is to outrun them which is near impossible if you're not on a cleared trail and even then lots of stuff to trip on.

But almost everyone out here is exceptionally nice, and they're not dumb. If you pull over anywhere even to pick something up you'll have one or two at least stop and offer help.

We had a new (10 years old when we left) 2600 sq ft house and now we're in a 1200 sq ft but the kids are out so it works. Actually raised them mostly in a 900 sq foot before until we moved.

Taxes here are actually less even without Ag than where we were. And I think they issue actual game tags for HOA board members but they may just be considered as a "varmint".

Damn, HOA got me further off topic than any other post I've made here, I think. Probably good for me to reflect but I don't think I even managed to make it a decent cautionary tale so y'all are probably bored to death.

So if I've got a beating coming I'll just take it without too much complaining as long as there's no talk of putting me back there.

 

[WizardSoDirty]

Yep sexless marriage, i mean there is more to life but still, i feel like i have so much pent up sexually energy and no way to express it, ive done the erotic writing thing, decent at that, think i need to step up to an online playmate now, how do i go about getting one of those, any input?

Might find a posting board with a forum and all somewhere around here, I've heard rumors.

 

[ccs29745]

The HOA paradox is particularly ironic in Texas as it's against or at least some of the enforcement mechanisms are against the Texas State Constitution and if that's not enough considering who's running the State in recent years you'd think someone would notice that not only is it a restriction on freedom but also you're paying a defacto tax to have what often amounts to a malevolent dictatorship to arbitrarily institute standards that are not only subjective and thus, usually misinterpreted but also nearly everything an HOA does in the absence of a common ajucnt to be maintained such as a pool or golf course, ect is something you're already paying for if you are within a municipality, which nearly all of them are although there are exceptions. So you're paying for those twice and you have less control and influence (depending on how skillfully you can apply "fear of the unknown" and related psychological concepts and how aggressive your attorney might be) than you do a municipality. One of the things that make HOAs unconstitutional is they're enjoying unwarranted protections as if they are a "real" government, if you lose a lawsuit you are likely to also have to cover their legal expenses The real root of lawyers being unpopular IMO) however if you win, you are prevented from recovering your legal expenses in most cases although it's possible if the planets are properly aligned and they've committed a gross overstep, depending.

I was able to scare the living daylights out of the boardmembers of ours when we were managing that internally but all that did was cause them to freak and a couple of years later turn management over to a management company, with staff that were.... I looked up the technical term to be sure ..."fucking stupid" and either had no legal advice or ignored it. They would do things that were obviously foolhardy and very inadvisable. I was managing to get by but it was a constant PITA. We moved for other reasons however and although Wifey misses that house, there's a lot of truth in "they don't build stuff like they used to" but we made a unbelievable profit on the place. The only thing I miss is being able to hook up the boat and be at the lake in less than 10 minutes. That was actually a source of inputed income as although I'd like to be a better bass fisherman (I only catch the dumb ones, and I'm serious about that) I'm good enough at catfish to actually come out way ahead on expenses. And there's nothing like fresh catfish.
What I don't miss is the thieves, steal anything at night, getting in peoples' cars but even steal stuff out of your garage in daylight if you weren't right there.

Where we are now we don't have those worries. I have natural fortifications, one of which is a moat between the house and the road, automated systems (big fucking spiders webs everywhere at night, non venomous but still... , and copperheads, water moccasins, the neighbor's bull on one side and the neighbors dogs acting as early warning on the other, a spooky driveway approach, all kinds of wildlife in the back notably large bobcats, coyotes, and a heard of feral hogs at least 40or50 strong, some up to around 1000 lbs) and no outside lights to speak of as I haven't wired any yet.

I'm completely serious when I say we almost never lock the doors even usually if taking a weekend trip. My neighbor on the one side is another benefit. He's actually a very nice guy and has been on the board of his church but he's got nearly as big an arsenal as I have and actually does pay attention to what goes on. The other side is older folks but the bull can be unreasonable and really even the cows when they have calves. I welcome members of the anti gun crowd to spend a couple of weeks with me. I have places out in the back 40 that are scary during high noon in the summer because it seems like you're in the middle of nowhere and there's real danger Feral hogs can not only kill you but they 'll eat you too and there isn't anything left to speak of, teeth maybe... pooped out over acreage with lots of trees it's pretty hard to find those. About three months ago Wifey went out back with me to retrieve the tractor which turned into a bigger job than I expected and we ended up way out there at around 1 in the morning, no moon and we heard a bobcat or two start howling not very far from where were were. She's crying and I'm telling her "What are you scared of, you've got a .357 magnum strapped on? I get it though as she's not used to shooting at moving wildlife but I taught her to shoot years ago and she actually very good. I think the cats were after each other but could see them even with those powerful flashlights, Just aimed a .45 in that direction and fired 3 rounds which like that is loud as hell. Bobcats go quiet. But out there day and especially night I'd rather not be out there without a weapon.

And every tree it seems (not too much exaggeration) has thorns Mesquites are at least good for cooking but we have locust that have thorns growing off the thorns all the way up and down the trunk.
Coyotes here are actually less dangerous than in Dallas and 'burbs. People think they're warm and fuzzy and that they're harmless. Out here maybe so but they've attacked grown men on jogging trails and grabbed people's pets off of the leash near and in Dallas and have killed people in other places.

The only thing that actually worries me here is killer bees, and we do have them. Whn you see a wild hive you don't know what they are unless they get after you and then your only hope is to outrun them which is near impossible if you're not on a cleared trail and even then lots of stuff to trip on.

But almost everyone out here is exceptionally nice, and they're not dumb. If you pull over anywhere even to pick something up you'll have one or two at least stop and offer help.

We had a new (10 years old when we left) 2600 sq ft house and now we're in a 1200 sq ft but the kids are out so it works. Actually raised them mostly in a 900 sq foot before until we moved.

Taxes here are actually less even without Ag than where we were. And I think they issue actual game tags for HOA board members but they may just be considered as a "varmint".

Damn, HOA got me further off topic than any other post I've made here, I think. Probably good for me to reflect but I don't think I even managed to make it a decent cautionary tale so y'all are probably bored to death.

So if I've got a beating coming I'll just take it without too much complaining as long as there's no talk of putting me back there.

Sorry for getting you off topic. Killer bees are fewer here than they use to be. Everyone fear the cicada killers now. Look like wasps, but drink the wasp spray.

Pull over here and most time people will just moving on. Problem around here is people act like they need help and then rob you when you do help.

Coyotes in field across house, pack of 10 to 12, keep getting farmer's chickens down the road.