How To Get To Heaven When You Die

DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 9.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 44 50.6%
  • I ALREADY PLACED MY FAITH IN CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICE

    Votes: 22 25.3%
  • OTHER

    Votes: 13 14.9%

  • Total voters
    87
Xfrodo you say again and again that you "know" things when in fact you do not. You "believe" those things. You cannot say you "know God," or "know Jesus" because you cannot, you can believe in them as much as you like, but to claim such knowledge is absurd. And possibly blasphemous too.

And there is not a single eye witness in the Bible, the Avesta, the Koran, the Vedas or the Pali Canon, not one. The whole point about belief, any belief, is that ultimately it cannot be evidence based; it has always to be a leap beyond knowledge - a leap of faith.

To better understand the concept of belief I recommend Buddha's teaching, mainly because he understood the limitations of both belief and knowledge. I'm not a Buddhist myself, but his thinking is interesting because he was significantly more intelligent than the leaders of other faiths.
 
Xfrodo you say again and again that you "know" things when in fact you do not. You "believe" those things. You cannot say you "know God," or "know Jesus" because you cannot, you can believe in them as much as you like, but to claim such knowledge is absurd. And possibly blasphemous too.

And there is not a single eye witness in the Bible, the Avesta, the Koran, the Vedas or the Pali Canon, not one. The whole point about belief, any belief, is that ultimately it cannot be evidence based; it has always to be a leap beyond knowledge - a leap of faith.

To better understand the concept of belief I recommend Buddha's teaching, mainly because he understood the limitations of both belief and knowledge. I'm not a Buddhist myself, but his thinking is interesting because he was significantly more intelligent than the leaders of other faiths.

FACT: I do know Jesus Christ. I don't just believe in Him, I have an actual relationship with Him. If you don't have that relationship with Him, that doesn't mean that I don't. In order to have that relationship you must place your FAITH in Jesus Christ as Lord of your life, believing in your heart that He died and rose again, shedding His blood for your sins. Have you done this? It's not blasphemy to speak the truth. Interestingly, Jesus claimed to know the Father and the Pharisees called Him names too.

FACT: In order for a book of the Bible to be included in the Canon at the Council of Nicaea, it had to be written by an Eyewitness. It also had to be written by an Apostle. The only exceptions were James and Jude because they were half brothers of Christ. You are also wrong that beliefs cannot be evidence based. Although my faith isn't dependent on the evidence, it certainly IS backed up by the actual evidence. Too bad if you don't believe it or like it. I've been researching it for decades.

FACT: Buddha is still in the grave. Mohammad is still in the Grave. Confucius is still in the grave. Jesus Christ rose from the dead, proving that He is Lord of all. He is the only one that I will trust. Jesus Christ was significantly more intelligent of leaders of other faiths in that He was all knowing. I would call significant wouldn't you?
 
Jesus died?

FACT: I do know Jesus Christ. I don't just believe in Him, I have an actual relationship with Him. If you don't have that relationship with Him, that doesn't mean that I don't. In order to have that relationship you must place your FAITH in Jesus Christ as Lord of your life, believing in your heart that He died and rose again, shedding His blood for your sins. Have you done this? It's not blasphemy to speak the truth. Interestingly, Jesus claimed to know the Father and the Pharisees called Him names too.

FACT: In order for a book of the Bible to be included in the Canon at the Council of Nicaea, it had to be written by an Eyewitness. It also had to be written by an Apostle. The only exceptions were James and Jude because they were half brothers of Christ. You are also wrong that beliefs cannot be evidence based. Although my faith isn't dependent on the evidence, it certainly IS backed up by the actual evidence. Too bad if you don't believe it or like it. I've been researching it for decades.

FACT: Buddha is still in the grave. Mohammad is still in the Grave. Confucius is still in the grave. Jesus Christ rose from the dead, proving that He is Lord of all. He is the only one that I will trust. Jesus Christ was significantly more intelligent of leaders of other faiths in that He was all knowing. I would call significant wouldn't you?

A belief is a statement of ignorance and at best unsurity eg if I said I believe he lives on xyz street it means I don’t reallly know!
We appreciate the fact act that you have a relationship with Jesus, we can not deny that to you. But on the other hand my 5yearold has a relationship with his teddy bear so what does that mean?
Finally where is Buddha now? It doesn’t really matter and is irrelevant because that philosophy is entirely different and the whereabouts of Buddha are nonsensical in its context. But where is jesus? Well Jesus died for our sins but since he never existed he really couldn’t have died for anyone could he?. All this line of argument divulges is a sense of mediocrity in your so called UN factual facts!!!
 
FACT: .

FACT: In order for a book of the Bible to be included in the Canon at the Council of Nicaea .

If you are gunna get cross and insist that you know this that and everything else xfrodo, it'd be wise not to make such a stupid error. :D

The Canon was not decided at or by the Council of Nicea in 325; Athanasius in 367 produced the first list, followed by adoption at the local Council of Rome in 382 then the more authoritative Councils at Hippo in 393 and the two at Carthage in 397 and 419.

So despite your decades of research you got it wrong - and not for the first time. :rolleyes:
 
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
 
Bumping your own thread with emojis is retarded. At least throw a thought or a talking point out there to discuss.
 
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Bumping your own thread with emojis is retarded. At least throw a thought or a talking point out there to discuss.

It's xfrodos standard response when his position has been blown to smithereens - 3 or 4 posts in succession to serve as distraction before he reverts to his usual rants. :D
 
It's xfrodos standard response when his position has been blown to smithereens - 3 or 4 posts in succession to serve as distraction before he reverts to his usual rants. :D

I see that.

How is one supposed to respond to an emoji on a thread that should stay buried?

I think I’m just going to avoid this thread altogether. It has run its course if the OP can only post an emoji as a comment to bring it back to the front page.
 
It's xfrodos standard response when his position has been blown to smithereens - 3 or 4 posts in succession to serve as distraction before he reverts to his usual rants. :D

You can't refute anything that I have said, you just claim that it's not true.
 
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”


If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.



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Please take the time to read this first post and then vote in the poll.
 
Sure it does. They want to outlaw any speech they disagree with like Democrats always do.
Did God tell you that? Is He lying again?

The resolution recognizes the valuable contributions that nonreligious people make to our society, something nobody in the Bible ever did.

I guess your feelings got hurt.
 
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