How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[xfrodobagginsx]

 

[phrodeau]

Jesus was actually addressing that man's attachement to money and possessions. He wasn't making a blanket statement.

Jesus followed with a blanket statement about rich men and camels. You are wrong.

 

[Kantarii]

Why do you constantly bump your thread with emojis?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Jesus followed with a blanket statement about rich men and camels. You are wrong.

No you are wrong. The reason that He followed with a statement about rich men and camels is because the man was rich and Jesus was making a point that it's hard for a rich man to be saved because the rich tend to trust in their money and see no need for faith in God. That's why Jesus told Him to sell his possessions because that was that man's stumbling block.

 

[Go_Fuck_Yourself]

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[xfrodobagginsx]

Jesus followed with a blanket statement about rich men and camels. You are wrong.

It was an analogy. You REALLY can't see that?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

God's Word isn't loonie Tune. They said the same stuff to Noah and the Prophets.

So you think you are a prophet?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

So you think you are a prophet?

I am not sure, but I know that Noah was one.

 

[lustatopia]

I don't know how it works. This isn't my field of expertise. But I have been told by reliable sources, and by reliable, I means people who sit quietly in Tibetan monasteries with the keepers of the secrets and confirmed independently by other people who sit quietly around campfires in the Kimberly.

The best way not to die with your body at death is to simply not be there at the time of your death. Leave the house before it collapses.

Not sure if this gets you into heaven, but at least you don't go down with the house.

Apparently, this is a very ancient rule going back to the very first people who had houses which could collapse.

 

[heathergives]

Why do you constantly bump your thread with emojis?

He has nojoi in his heart?

 

[ishtat]

I am not sure, but I know that Noah was one.

So xfrodo thinks Noah was a prophet. Oh dear! Now, any body who knows the Bible would also know that Noah is definitely neither a Jewish, nor is he a Christian prophet.

However, every good Moslem knows that the Koran in contrast establishes Noah as a prophet of Islam. So, it is perfectly clear from xfrodo's claim that he must be a closet Moslem.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

So xfrodo thinks Noah was a prophet. Oh dear! Now, any body who knows the Bible would also know that Noah is definitely neither a Jewish, nor is he a Christian prophet.

However, every good Moslem knows that the Koran in contrast establishes Noah as a prophet of Islam. So, it is perfectly clear from xfrodo's claim that he must be a closet Moslem.

You don't have to be Jewish to be a Prophet. God spoke to Noah and told him that there would be a flood. God commanded him to build the Arc. Noah preached for over 100 years. There are things called Dispensations. Moses was the Dispensation of Law. Under Noah, they were under the dispensation of Conscience. The quran is a twisted copy cat version of the Bible. mohammad was not even an eyewitness and his writings contradict the eyewitness accounts of the Bible. he was nothing more than a false prophet.

 

[ishtat]

You don't have to be Jewish to be a Prophet. God spoke to Noah and told him that there would be a flood. God commanded him to build the Arc. Noah preached for over 100 years. There are things called Dispensations. Moses was the Dispensation of Law. Under Noah, they were under the dispensation of Conscience. The quran is a twisted copy cat version of the Bible. mohammad was not even an eyewitness and his writings contradict the eyewitness accounts of the Bible. he was nothing more than a false prophet.

And yet all the Biblical prophets were Jews . Noah wasn't a prophet or a Jew; the Early Yaweh sacrifice cult pinched the story from much older Sumerian sources - and unlike the Bible we have the original written sources for that, inscribed on clay tablets round about 2400 BC more than 1,500 years before the Biblical flood was written down.

Attacking Islam is counter productive because the Jewish and Islamic theologies of God/Allah are identical - no Trinitarian clap trap at all. Attack either and you are attacking the foundations of your own religious heritage. Its the Christians that perverted monotheism through Paul's claims on Jesus' behalf. That was backed up by the Church at the time, and your church swallowed the whole of the Roman Catholic dogma.

The Koran is not a copy cat version of the Bible. To start with it is only 2/3 as long as the NT and doesn't purport to cover the same areas at all. Incidentally Isa(Jesus) gets a decent mention in the Koran and his mother even more so. You should read it, you might learn something.

And forget this 'eyewitness' bullshit; there are absolutely none anywhere whatsoever in the Bible. Believe whatever you want, but don't try to claim it has any verifiable truth: it does not.

Most of the time xfrodo I cannot be bothered arguing with you because you are so profoundly ignorant. You need to develop an appreciation of all the religious writings which preceded the Bible before prating your nonsense.

 

[phrodeau]

Noah might have been a prophet, but he wasn’t much of an historian. He only passed down five chapters of Genesis, and one of those was his personal family tree.

 

[lustatopia]

You don't have to be Jewish to be a Prophet. God spoke to Noah and told him that there would be a flood. God commanded him to build the Arc. Noah preached for over 100 years. There are things called Dispensations. Moses was the Dispensation of Law. Under Noah, they were under the dispensation of Conscience. The quran is a twisted copy cat version of the Bible. mohammad was not even an eyewitness and his writings contradict the eyewitness accounts of the Bible. he was nothing more than a false prophet.

Now, now, children, play nice.

The Quran is an "update" on the New Testament which is an update on the Old Testament (Tanakh). I'm sure some Orthodox Jews feel the same way about the New Testament as you do about the Quran.

It's likely the whole lot of you guys ripped your basic sky god struggling within a binary universe of Good versus Evil theme from an original source somewhere in the Caspian Mountains dating to, oh say, 6,000 bc. The same narrative headed east too where Zarathustra adapted it into a Persian fire religion.

On a finer point: The bible is not a single book. It's the Reader Digest abridged version of 40 books, plus another 50 that did not make the final cut. The Bible, you refer to, is really what was left after the bishops at the First Council of Nicaea tossed out a wagon load of documents that did not affirm their righteous power to mediate between God and his humble flock. Fortunately, many of these documents were collected by studious monks and stored for erudite abbots to peruse over the centuries. Sadly, many have not survived to this day.

 

[colddiesel]

Noah might have been a prophet, but he wasn’t much of an historian. He only passed down five chapters of Genesis, and one of those was his personal family tree.

Didn't his sons chop his nuts off when he was pissed on the grog? How can you take a twat like that seriously?

 

[IvarHakuse]

The last supper

Blah! Blah! sex, sin, jesus, rome and and all that stuff

Blah! Blah! your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, Blah! Blah! If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to in baptism.[/QUOTE]

Wonder if jesus ever said 'for what i am to receive may the lord make me truly grateful!' Before partaking in Cunnilingus? Imagine his head moving rhythmically beween her two legs pushed apart and held open wide by his firm hands moving up and down, side to side and in circles as he nibbles, laps and flicks and sucks on her engorged clit! His nose, mouth, tongue chin and cheeks Slathered by long strands of her warm, wet, slick, slimy, slippery transparent gurl grool!!! Voicing Mmmmmm! Aaaaaaaa! You taste so Divine Ms Magdalen Adam sure missed out on one fruit! I could just die in your pink fleshy, moist, juicy, warm and tender folds!!! Whats that boys? Last supper? Ok join in! Mary lots of protein in their milk gurl! Someone! Judas! massage my balls, milk me and take me from behind! James lick her cream pie as i fuck and churn her boy! Whats that brother? You're the true messiah huh dude? I wonder if the gospels missed out on a thing or two here and there?.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

And yet all the Biblical prophets were Jews . Noah wasn't a prophet or a Jew; the Early Yaweh sacrifice cult pinched the story from much older Sumerian sources - and unlike the Bible we have the original written sources for that, inscribed on clay tablets round about 2400 BC more than 1,500 years before the Biblical flood was written down.

Attacking Islam is counter productive because the Jewish and Islamic theologies of God/Allah are identical - no Trinitarian clap trap at all. Attack either and you are attacking the foundations of your own religious heritage. Its the Christians that perverted monotheism through Paul's claims on Jesus' behalf. That was backed up by the Church at the time, and your church swallowed the whole of the Roman Catholic dogma.

The Koran is not a copy cat version of the Bible. To start with it is only 2/3 as long as the NT and doesn't purport to cover the same areas at all. Incidentally Isa(Jesus) gets a decent mention in the Koran and his mother even more so. You should read it, you might learn something.

And forget this 'eyewitness' bullshit; there are absolutely none anywhere whatsoever in the Bible. Believe whatever you want, but don't try to claim it has any verifiable truth: it does not.
Most of the time xfrodo I cannot be bothered arguing with you because you are so profoundly ignorant. You need to develop an appreciation of all the religious writings which preceded the Bible before prating your nonsense.

Enoch was a prophet, not a Jew. Noah was a prophet , not a Jew. Abraham was a prophet, not a Jew. How much is recorded in the Bible before Israel? Not much. In Genesis, the first book of the Bible and in the first few chapters is where the Jewish race begins. OF COURSE Most of the prophets in the Bible are Jewish because they are the ones who worshiped the true and living God. But so did Noah and So did Enoch and so did Abraham. So, your premise that all prophets are Jewish is false. There are no writings that predate the Bible that the Bible was copied from. You obviously have no idea how the Bible came about. It was written over a period of 1600 years. Attacking islam for the false religion that it is is exactly right because mohammad merely copied the stories of the Bible and twisted them up and changed them. Anyone could do that. he is a false prophet. The stories in the quran were copied by mohammad 600 years AFTER the Bible was completed. he was NOT an eyewitness to the events as the Biblical writers were AND his stories directly contradict the stories of the Bible. Therefore, he is a false prophet. I am not attacking the Bible at all. I am not a Roman Catholic either. ANA Baptists precede the Catholic Church. They can be traced all the way back to the original Christians, they were the under ground Church And their beliefs are like mine, NOT yours. With that said, I don't rely on what some Church says, I rely on what the Bible says. The only ignorant person here is YOU. You are brainwashed and don't know the first thing about Biblical history. One of the criteria for a book to be included in the Canon was that it had to be written by an Apostle and an Eyewitness. The only two that were exceptions because they were not Apostles were James and Jude because they were half brothers of Christ. Do your research.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Not even close xfrodo.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Not even close xfrodo.

Explain why it's wrong.

 

[lustatopia]

Enoch was a prophet, not a Jew. Noah was a prophet , not a Jew. Abraham was a prophet, not a Jew. How much is recorded in the Bible before Israel? Not much. In Genesis, the first book of the Bible and in the first few chapters is where the Jewish race begins. OF COURSE Most of the prophets in the Bible are Jewish because they are the ones who worshiped the true and living God. But so did Noah and So did Enoch and so did Abraham. So, your premise that all prophets are Jewish is false. There are no writings that predate the Bible that the Bible was copied from. You obviously have no idea how the Bible came about. It was written over a period of 1600 years. Attacking islam for the false religion that it is is exactly right because mohammad merely copied the stories of the Bible and twisted them up and changed them. Anyone could do that. he is a false prophet. The stories in the quran were copied by mohammad 600 years AFTER the Bible was completed. he was NOT an eyewitness to the events as the Biblical writers were AND his stories directly contradict the stories of the Bible. Therefore, he is a false prophet. I am not attacking the Bible at all. I am not a Roman Catholic either. ANA Baptists precede the Catholic Church. They can be traced all the way back to the original Christians, they were the under ground Church And their beliefs are like mine, NOT yours. With that said, I don't rely on what some Church says, I rely on what the Bible says. The only ignorant person here is YOU. You are brainwashed and don't know the first thing about Biblical history. One of the criteria for a book to be included in the Canon was that it had to be written by an Apostle and an Eyewitness. The only two that were exceptions because they were not Apostles were James and Jude because they were half brothers of Christ. Do your research.

Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths are derived from the same "Abrahamic tradition." The Abrahamic tradition has its own sources dating back much further into the past than the Old Testament.

The flood story, for instance, is found in ancient Ur. The Garden of Eden narrative is also much older than the biblical version. Aspects of the Gilgamesh Epic seem to be echoed in the Old Testament. There are plenty of sources for the Bible that are not mentioned directly in the Bible, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gospel of Thomas that you can easily Google. The Bible you know is a highly abridged document produced by 5th century Catholic bishops and so is not the whole of literature. All religious scholars of the Good Book know this history.

It is wrong to diss Islam as not part of the Abrahamic tradition. The Bible has absolutely nothing to say about Islam simply because it was a done deal before Mohammad was born. It's petty hypocrisy to deny Muslims their faith in Mohammad's revelations which Muslims believe to be the exact words of Allah, yet for you to believe the same thing about your own holy book, which is definitely NOT the exact word of God at all and no one can claim it to be.

I do not share in your Abrahamic faiths, but I do share the same tradition and I am an impartial student of the subject. It is simply in error to say that the Quran is "false prophecy" because it doesn't tell the stories depicted in the Bible exactly how the Bible was edited to arrive at its narratives.

You must understand that by your own epistemology based upon revelatory faith, your faith is true and that this true faith is immune to parsing by human reasoning because the divine logic of God (Allah) is beyond that of mere mortals. Thus, it is sinful to disrespect another's true faith, especially peoples of the Book's true faith. Allow them their faith as you would wish for them to allow you your faith in peace.

 

[Go_Fuck_Yourself]

I am the Ultimate Prophet!

Heed my words you Infidel "Froggy" xfrodobagginsx!

 

[PaxNurgle]

I agree with most of what lustopia says. Even though I identify myself as Christian, it would be wrong not to acknowledge that both Islam, Judaism and Christianity all derive from the same root. Islam arose nearly six centuries after the death of Christ and the beginnings of Christianity, but came from the same traditions and the same core faith. I do believe there is a certain divine wisdom to be gained from most faiths, even those which I philosophically disagree with on many points.

Some stories in the Bible were based on real events. There was, no doubt, a king David. The Egyptian enslavement of the caananites (early Jews) was probably a real thing. A volcanic eruption probably destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. There MAY have been a seismic event that could have accounted for the Red Sea to suddenly drop, allowing for a temporary passage across for fleeing civilians. Although the evidence for this is pretty scant. But there is plenty of evidence for the flood of Noah, which likely occurred when the ice age ended and sea levels rose hundreds of feet due to melting glaciers. Some sources say that an ice dam on the Black Sea gave way suddenly, flooding the near east with hundreds of feet of water all at once.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I agree with most of what lustopia says. Even though I identify myself as Christian, it would be wrong not to acknowledge that both Islam, Judaism and Christianity all derive from the same root. Islam arose nearly six centuries after the death of Christ and the beginnings of Christianity, but came from the same traditions and the same core faith. I do believe there is a certain divine wisdom to be gained from most faiths, even those which I philosophically disagree with on many points.

Some stories in the Bible were based on real events. There was, no doubt, a king David. The Egyptian enslavement of the caananites (early Jews) was probably a real thing. A volcanic eruption probably destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. There MAY have been a seismic event that could have accounted for the Red Sea to suddenly drop, allowing for a temporary passage across for fleeing civilians. Although the evidence for this is pretty scant. But there is plenty of evidence for the flood of Noah, which likely occurred when the ice age ended and sea levels rose hundreds of feet due to melting glaciers. Some sources say that an ice dam on the Black Sea gave way suddenly, flooding the near east with hundreds of feet of water all at once.

islam was derived from the Bible because mohammad copied it from the Bible as I said. It's still a completely false religion because it directly contradicts the eyewitness accounts of the Bible. If someone wrote a book today saying that George Washington wasn't really the 1st President of the US and that all of the eyewitnesses were wrong, would you believe it? That's what mohammad did.