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[cowslinger64]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/transcrip...trump-lawyer-left-flynn-lawyer-231100836.html



Transcript released of voicemail Trump lawyer left for Flynn lawyer asking for a 'heads up'


The special counsel's office on Friday released the full transcript of a voicemail one of President Donald Trump's lawyers left for Michael Flynn’s lawyer asking for a "heads up" about the former national security adviser’s cooperation with investigators, a call government prosecutors have described as a “potential” effort to hinder Robert Mueller’s probe.

(MORE: New details emerge in Michael Flynn's cooperation with Mueller probe)

The transcript, now disclosed in its entirety, starts out, "Hey, Rob, uhm, this is John again," and shows how Trump's attorney John Dowd reached out to Flynn's attorney Rob Kelner to request "some kind of heads up" about the nature of the former security adviser's cooperation with investigators.

"If, on the other hand, we have, there's information that. .. implicates the President, then we've got a national security issue, or maybe a national security issue, I don't know ... some issue, we got to-we got to deal with, not only for the President, but for the country," Dowd tells Kelner in the voicemail. "So ... uh ... you know, then-then, you know, we need some kind of heads up. Um, just for the sake of ... protecting all our interests, if we can, without you having to give up any ... confidential information."

 

[doowdniw]

Lol. keep dreaming because that's not what I said at all.

Yes, I mentioned Comey. However, if you go back and re-read what I posted, you'll notice that it was an allegory referring to how people are treating Mueller.

It's too bad that you're attempting to discuss politics without any real understanding of how to do that. Mostly because you have no idea how to have a discussion on the subject.


Please try to keep up with the rest of the class.

You're talking in circles. Happens when you have your head up your ass.

 

[icanhelp1]

For the longest time, Comey mastered the "long con" on being "all things to everyone". Unfortunately for him, he was boxed in by a cabal of rogue FBI agents in New York City who believed their mission in life was to put Hillary Clinton in prison by any means necessary.

Comey was forced to make a choice, one he knew would alienate one factor forever. He gambled that Hillary Clinton would win the election, and the fallout from a Clinton presidency would be "survivable".

He chose.....poorly.

He ended up alienating the Clinton supporters immediately by appeasing the New York cabal and insinuating there was something "criminal" about buttery males.

He also ended up alienating the Trump goosesteppers by failing to produce any criminal evidence of buttery males.

So in trying vainly to salvage his position, he alienated everyone.

Not only was it a poor choice, it wasn't his choice to make period! He's subordinate to the AG and the AG was too busy with Clinton. That's what the Clintons do. The teflon couple. They always seem to be just out of reach. If any of you can gloss over the fact of using an unsecured server and she not thinking it was wrong, she was a fucking U.S. senator for God sakes, she knew security protocol and Comey stepped in to protect her from prosecution. Comey took a hit for the team and still fucked up. Big Bill compromised LYNCH and he knew exactly what he was doing, and I wouldn't be surprised if John Podesta put Bill up to it. We will find out, eventually.

 

[butters]

so how about all the top peeps who've had to be told AGAIN to NOT use their unsecured phones, servers and public platforms to conduct whitehouse official business under trump's presidency? even his own offspring.

for all the foaming at the mouth about clinton, trump's own cabal continued to do the same thing.

 

[KeithD]

Trumpettes have no shame in their hypocrisy.

 

[jomar]

Lol. keep dreaming because that's not what I said at all.

Yes, I mentioned Comey. However, if you go back and re-read what I posted, you'll notice that it was an allegory referring to how people are treating Mueller.

...

LOL, an allegory. You gave me shit when I took poetic license and called Barr’s memo to Rosenstein an application letter.

Can’t have it both ways, Dudly!

 

[KeithD]

L Barr’s memo to Rosenstein an application letter.

That's not poetic license. That clearly was what Barr's memo was. And it became an accepted job application.

 

[icanhelp1]

so how about all the top peeps who've had to be told AGAIN to NOT use their unsecured phones, servers and public platforms to conduct whitehouse official business under trump's presidency? even his own offspring.

for all the foaming at the mouth about clinton, trump's own cabal continued to do the same thing.

Secure communications in today's environment has been an issue since the Bush administration. The risk are tremendous and any countermeasure can be compromised. It's getting to the point that communications are almost impossible to secure. Trump gives national security personnel severe headaches, no doubt. Left wing news media ( new york times, washington post ) have made it a career to take out revenge articles against this administration to include sensationalising Trump and his admin's use of unsecured communications. Most of the earlier risk taking was due to protocol ignorance and most has been resolved. Trump is Trump and he likes using his android. I'm pretty sure there are no indictment for security violations as of yet but the left is hoping and a praying for one. Hillary ran one of the most sensitive departments of the cabinet on an unsecured server. It was hacked and it has been validated that classified national security material is out there. Storing all that information on an external medium is against the "freedom of information act" ( FOIA ) ( NARA ) the "FEDERAL RECORDS ACT" and in violation of title 18 sec 1924 of U.S. code and criminal procedure. She was in the white house for 8 years, and U.S. senator for 4 more. She was well briefed on security protocol. She also deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails which is as blatant an obstruction of justice case as you can have, also bleachbit her server and smashed her cell phones. Comey finds no ill intent, BULLSHIT. People have been convicted and jailed for far less Spare me the onslaught of TDS. This is about the legal aspect and not your political opinion.

 

[jomar]

That's not poetic license. That clearly was what Barr's memo was. And it became an accepted job application.

That was my thinking too but he tried to corner me. It got sorted when I did the math for him, though.

 

[Que]

so how about all the top peeps who've had to be told AGAIN to NOT use their unsecured phones, servers and public platforms to conduct whitehouse official business under trump's presidency? even his own offspring.

for all the foaming at the mouth about clinton, trump's own cabal continued to do the same thing.

Talk about false equivalency. Hillary Clinton moved everything not just the odd bit of communication to a private server specifically so that she could hide what she wanted to from the American people this is not permitted here in America it might be permitted in England but it's fucking well not here in America to have your lawyers go through everything you've ever written while you are working for the government sort through it and decide what you want to remove and Destroy which is exactly what she did that's a major felony, even if the all items requested have not been subject to subpoena which she damn well knew at the time.

Huge difference between minor lapses in protocol and a systemic plan to completely thrwart oversight.

 

[butters]

views post for the first time in ages

uh huh, as i suspected... fixed your post for you; now you can blather on quite happily imagining i might read and recognise you again this blue moon. i won't

Talk about false equivalency: I'm alleging that Hillary Clinton moved everything not just the odd bit of communication to a private server specifically so that she could hide what she wanted to from the American people. This is not permitted here in America. It might be permitted in England (but it's fucking well not here in America) to have your lawyers go through everything you've ever written while you are working for the government, sort through it and decide what you want to remove and Destroy, which is exactly what she did. That's a major felony, even if the all items requested have not been subject to subpoena which I allege, she damn well knew at the time.

Huge difference between minor lapses in protocol and a systemic plan to completely thrwart thwart oversight.

have a napkin; you're frothing at the mouth, sweetie.

 

[KeithD]

That was my thinking too but he tried to corner me. It got sorted when I did the math for him, though.

The manner in which it was done was the only way Barr could be sure that the idiot recognized it was a job application.

 

[someoneyouknow]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/5082f2f704e4a7956a673464ffeeec30/tumblr_psgbodQYcQ1rbam90o1_500.jpg

 

[Que]

How slow do you have to be to be an entire day behind Luk, of all people.

 

[Que]

uh huh, as i suspected... fixed your post for you; now you can blather on quite happily imagining i might read and recognise you again this blue moon. i won't
have a napkin; you're frothing at the mouth, sweetie.

Alleged is what is used for facts that are in dispute. None of those facts were in anyway in dispute. It is universally agreed that she did all of those things. The only dispute is whether or not she should have had consequences for doing exactly that.

By the way, that's what actual obstruction of justice looks like. You have to actually do something. Not just think about doing something, not talk about doing something, but actually take action to obstruct justice. . . which is exactly what she did. Not just there but multiple times throughout her life. Every time someone is looking into something she's done she obstructs justice, hides records destroys records and issues statements of, "I cannot recall," about things that clearly she would recall.

You are permitted to plead the fifth; you are not permitted to lie under oath including her less than credible number of times that she said I do not recall.

Hillary Clinton as a lawyer is an expert at obstruction of justice. She cut her teeth on the Watergate hearings where she was personally censured for misconduct. This is not a person who could accidentally obstruct justice; she knows exactly what she's doing and she's quite good at it. What little law she practiced was helping scam artists thread the needle on not just Highly questionable real estate deals but outright fraud.

It's no wonder that the Clintons used to be friends with Donald Trump..

 

[bbx56]

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You are permitted to plead the fifth you are not permitted to lie under oath including ridiculous number of times that she said I do not recall.

Despite FBI rules that say an interview must be under oath and recorded

SHE WASNT

THE EXONERATION LETTER WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE INTERVIEW

 

[Que]

Despite FBI rules that say an interview must be under oath and recorded

SHE WASNT

THE EXONERATION LETTER WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE INTERVIEW

That's all very true but I'm referring to all of the various times that she has been put under oath for all of the various scams she's been involved in and she follows the same pattern every time.

 

[bbx56]

MuleLair Report Edited Conversation Between Trump, Flynn Lawyers To Make It Look Bad
Report Edited Conversation Between Trump, Flynn Lawyers To Make It Look Bad


It was already pretty clear that the report was constructed to try to make it look as bad as they could out of nothing being there. But now there’s concrete evidence of that.

Booby MuleLiar is NOT honest!

MuleLiar and his team purposely edited a call to remove context and to try to paint something totally innocuous as a sinister attempt at obstructing justice. This is exactly why he does not want to testify and why Democrats are not subpoenaing him. They know he’d get destroyed if forced to defend his report.

If Mueller was willing to do this, what else was he willing to manipulate in his report?

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/201...ction-justice/

 

[bbx56]

That's all very true but I'm referring to all of the various times that she has been put under oath for all of the various scams she's been involved in and she follows the same pattern every time.

Thats not on her

Its on THOSE that fall for it

EVERYTIME

 

[Que]

Thats not on her

Its on THOSE that fall for it

EVERYTIME

True but it amuses me all of the people that point to the things that Donald J Trump did as obstruction of justice and they in slightly insist that Hillary Clinton has done no wrong when you can point out exactly which laws she broke.

It's easy to point to actual obstructive acts that she took on various investigations over the many years we're clearly there was no reason to take that particular act other than to obstruct Justice. It's not even debatable it's cut and dry. The only argument is whether or not a reasonable prosecutor would put her in jail for doing the very things that other people have actually gone to jail.

 

[bbx56]

I have asked on multiple occasions

WHAT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE RE TRUMP????????????????


I have NOT gotten ONE answer

(Must be cause Im on IGGY...why am I on IGGY? Cause its easier to IGGY me then answer my questions)

 

[Que]

I've been asking my question longer. Colluded to do what?

 

[icanhelp1]

Talk about false equivalency. Hillary Clinton moved everything not just the odd bit of communication to a private server specifically so that she could hide what she wanted to from the American people this is not permitted here in America it might be permitted in England but it's fucking well not here in America to have your lawyers go through everything you've ever written while you are working for the government sort through it and decide what you want to remove and Destroy which is exactly what she did that's a major felony, even if the all items requested have not been subject to subpoena which she damn well knew at the time.

Huge difference between minor lapses in protocol and a systemic plan to completely thrwart oversight.

If there is one tactic the left has perfected is the use of false equivalency. She had her hands in the watergate proceedings ( reprimanded as being dishonest and unethical ), knee deep in whitewater, Benghazi and now the server issue. Bill is just so tarnished and so morally corrupt he's not worth discussing. I know what Trump is. The Clintons did most of their unethical stunts while serving in one public office or another. Bill used the power of his office of AG to coerce people. They knew how to leverage their power and circumvent the law. Their foundation is about to be unravelled. How you leave office broke and suddenly become millionaires several times over in such a short period of time is suspect at best. The left refuses to even look at their past.

 

[icanhelp1]

Talk about false equivalency. Hillary Clinton moved everything not just the odd bit of communication to a private server specifically so that she could hide what she wanted to from the American people this is not permitted here in America it might be permitted in England but it's fucking well not here in America to have your lawyers go through everything you've ever written while you are working for the government sort through it and decide what you want to remove and Destroy which is exactly what she did that's a major felony, even if the all items requested have not been subject to subpoena which she damn well knew at the time.

Huge difference between minor lapses in protocol and a systemic plan to completely thrwart oversight.

She was conducting foundation business as well as state on her server and kept that business away from prying eyes ( the american people ).

 

[Adre]

CDS is strong in these two.